From my knowledge of the guys he got, not one is a surefire(i.e. regular top 9 forward/top 5 defenseman) NHLer
- Jsaquella

Disgraceful. Late first from the Pens. And the Blues pick is lottery protected. Just an awful job by Feaster.

Getting the return he did for JBo and his fat cap space was a good deal for the Flames. What has he done the last 5 years? I breathed a sigh of relief that it wasn't the Flyers JBo got traded to. I'm sure I wasn't the only one.
- phillydentist

I would love to bring in Bouwmeester. He plays 25 minutes a night, never gets hurt, is a good passer has good mobility, size, plays all situations...He's a good NHL defenseman, certainly a top pair guy.

The two knocks are his lack of physicality and the occasional brain fart. But he's a pretty solid defenseman. I would have been happy if the Flyers got him.

Clowe? Really?

For (frank)s sake!

Getting the return he did for JBo and his fat cap space was a good deal for the Flames. What has he done the last 5 years? I breathed a sigh of relief that it wasn't the Flyers JBo got traded to. I'm sure I wasn't the only one.
- phillydentist

It was a brutal deal Feaster made for Bouwmeester. If I was a Flames fan, I'd be livid. The Iginla return wasn't great either.

I'd like to see Wellwood get some more opportunity. He was a pt per gamer when he left Juniors and approached those levels at times with the Phantoms. His first season with any significant NHL time he had 10 pts in 27 games, which projects to a 30 pt full season. Not bad for starters. With his speed and skillset he could be a player at some point.
- exlund

I agree. At the very least he's got blazing speed & is responsible defensively.

Not sure if the offense is sustainable, but a guy with his other attributes should get a look ahead of a guy like Rosehill or Zolnierczyk

I would love to bring in Bouwmeester. He plays 25 minutes a night, never gets hurt, is a good passer has good mobility, size, plays all situations...He's a good NHL defenseman, certainly a top pair guy.

The two knocks are his lack of physicality and the occasional brain fart. But he's a pretty solid defenseman. I would have been happy if the Flyers got him.
- Jsaquella

All of that is true. The only reason I wasn't crazy about Bowmeester is the Cap hit.

Clowe? Really?

For (frank)s sake!
- flyer_nutter

If the rumor mongers are right.

I don't hate Clowe, just don't see the need.

Clowe? Really?

For (frank)s sake!
- flyer_nutter

He has that grit and sandpaper to his game, that you want.

All of that is true. The only reason I wasn't crazy about Bowmeester is the Cap hit.
- MJL

Yeah, the cap hit is an issue. But if you can get him for a lawn chair and a steering wheel from an '84 Buick...

If the rumor mongers are right.

I don't hate Clowe, just don't see the need.
- Jsaquella

Clowe makes no sense at all unless it is dominoes for something else. Though with JBo off the market, for the life of me I cant see what it would be.

Yeah, the cap hit is an issue. But if you can get him for a lawn chair and a steering wheel from an '84 Buick...
- Jsaquella

That's why the Salary Cap sucks. If it wasn't for that, I'd love to have Bouwmeester.

All of that is true. The only reason I wasn't crazy about Bowmeester is the Cap hit.
- MJL

Cap hit is always part of the equation... It affects the player's trade value.

I wouldn't give up a 1st and 2 prospects to take on $6.7M in cap.

He has that grit and sandpaper to his game, that you want.
- MJL

He does, but my fear is he will be overpaid for.

I see him as a 3rd liner. He also isnt the fastest guy, and doesnt score too many goals. Not really in the same leadership group that I wanted the team to target.

If the rumor mongers are right.

I don't hate Clowe, just don't see the need.
- Jsaquella

clowe rhymes w/ slow...seravalli actually said that clowe was faster than hartnell and had hands just as good...frank must be on adderall when he watches clowe play

Cap hit is always part of the equation... It affects the player's trade value.

I wouldn't give up a 1st and 2 prospects to take on $6.7M in cap.
- phillydentist

Quite aware of that. Feaster made an awful deal.

If the rumor mongers are right.

I don't hate Clowe, just don't see the need.
- Jsaquella

My thing isnt so much as bringing him in, its what would be given up for him.

Clowe makes no sense at all unless it is dominoes for something else. Though with JBo off the market, for the life of me I cant see what it would be.
- MBFlyerfan

If one of the dominoes is Simmonds I will be extremely pissed off. I love the guy's heart, and despite his shortcomings, I want to see him in O&B for a long time.

He does, but my fear is he will be overpaid for.

I see him as a 3rd liner. He also isnt the fastest guy, and doesnt score too many goals. Not really in the same leadership group that I wanted the team to target.
- flyer_nutter

That's certainly true this Season. Normally around a 20 goal guy.

That's certainly true this Season. Normally a 20 goal guy.
- MJL

What I am getting at is 3rd line guys who can score around 20 are found in free agency pretty often.

I wouldnt mind Clowe depending on the cost, thats my concern.

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What I am getting at is 3rd line guys who can score around 20 are found in free agency pretty often.

I wouldnt mind Clowe depending on the cost, thats my concern.
- flyer_nutter

I'm with you on that. I'm not really enthused with Clowe. Not sure what the interest is. I want the Flyers to use assets to prop up the defense. But if it happens, I'll wait and see what the deal is.

Jay Feaster's not having a good year...

Fleeced by St. Louis in Bouwmeester deal,
Fleeced by Pittsburgh in Iginla deal,
Didn't realize O'Reilly had to go through waivers,
Signed Wideman to a god-awful contract (after giving up assets for his rights),
Drafted Mark Jankowski in the 1st-round, then proceeded to annoint him the "best player" in that draft (lol).

Clowe makes no sense at all unless it is dominoes for something else. Though with JBo off the market, for the life of me I cant see what it would be.
- MBFlyerfan

Has to be, or at least a bigger deal involving him

Jay Feaster's not having a good year...

Fleeced by St. Louis in Bouwmeester deal,
Fleeced by Pittsburg in Iginla deal,
Didn't realize O'Reilly had to go through waivers,
Signed Wideman to a god-awful contract (after giving up assets for his rights),
Drafted Mark Jankowski in the 1st-round, then proceeded to annoint him the "best player" in that draft (lol).
- Tomahawk

I forgot Jankowski...Holy Moly.

Jay Feaster's not having a good year...

Fleeced by St. Louis in Bouwmeester deal,
Fleeced by Pittsburg in Iginla deal,
Didn't realize O'Reilly had to go through waivers,
Signed Wideman to a god-awful contract (after giving up assets for his rights),
Drafted Mark Jankowski in the 1st-round, then proceeded to annoint him the "best player" in that draft (lol).
- Tomahawk

Just brutal. What kind of drugs is he on?