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Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:48 AM ET
I never expect trades with the Isles. They just signed Vish so there is some money to spend and if they do not want to risk the playoffs by trading Steit they should be adding players to help.
- ses111



they are not trading for rentals..thats not happening..garth isn't moving prospects for upcoming ufa's
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:50 AM ET
they are not trading for rentals..thats not happening..garth isn't moving prospects for upcoming ufa's
- NYI78



He can then trade for non rentals or trade a pick for a rental. Why is it always impossible for the Isles to trade?
Isles321
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 2 @ 11:57 AM ET
With the price of Dmen especially a puck moving Dman that is a PP QB you have to listen and if the right deal is put on the table I think you have to pull the trigger. Would they trade Streit then name JT Captain all in 1 season or is that frowned upon?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:58 AM ET
I watched him go into the corners and half a$$ it numerous times last night. Botch a few scoring chances and pretty much everything else I mentioned. I don't think he's effective at a whole hell of a lot.
- Cptmjl



Aside from Okposo's skating ability his other main flaw is his inability to finish his check. EVERY SINGLE time he has the chance to finish a check he goes in backwards to not lay the guy out. Just once I wanna see him go in full speed with the intention of laying someone out. I'm tired of his letting up on guys every single time.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 2 @ 12:00 PM ET
He can then trade for non rentals or trade a pick for a rental. Why is it always impossible for the Isles to trade?
- ses111


because garth isn't trading his number one or strome nino or griff
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 2 @ 12:11 PM ET
because garth isn't trading his number one or strome nino or griff
- NYI78


I find it hard to believe Garth cannot make a deal for less. I'm not looking for a star back but forget it talking trade and the Isles is useless.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 2 @ 12:19 PM ET
may not be popular opinion, but I say trade Streit, throw Boyes in with him and attempt to get someone back like Leddy. If needed throw colin mcdonald, grabner or bailey on the first line, plug anders lee in at wing to fill a third line role and bump grabner up to second line if Bailey is the one to move up. Bring up Nino or Strome and keep going. Even if you deal streit for a 1st round pick it's preferable to losing him for nothing and frankly right now he's not adding a lot. His defensive play has been awful, he took a bad angle on elias last night and was the reason the devils scored.

While the team is currently battling for a playoff spot, they could just as easily fall out of the race and be left with nothing if he walks. I'd rather see him go than resign, especially with the amount of young defenseman the Isles have coming. They need to clear space for the kids
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Apr 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
may not be popular opinion, but I say trade Streit, throw Boyes in with him and attempt to get someone back like Leddy. If needed throw colin mcdonald, grabner or bailey on the first line, plug anders lee in at wing to fill a third line role and bump grabner up to second line if Bailey is the one to move up. Bring up Nino or Strome and keep going. Even if you deal streit for a 1st round pick it's preferable to losing him for nothing and frankly right now he's not adding a lot. His defensive play has been awful, he took a bad angle on elias last night and was the reason the devils scored.

While the team is currently battling for a playoff spot, they could just as easily fall out of the race and be left with nothing if he walks. I'd rather see him go than resign, especially with the amount of young defenseman the Isles have coming. They need to clear space for the kids

- Isles_since_6


ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 2 @ 12:25 PM ET
may not be popular opinion, but I say trade Streit, throw Boyes in with him and attempt to get someone back like Leddy. If needed throw colin mcdonald, grabner or bailey on the first line, plug anders lee in at wing to fill a third line role and bump grabner up to second line if Bailey is the one to move up. Bring up Nino or Strome and keep going. Even if you deal streit for a 1st round pick it's preferable to losing him for nothing and frankly right now he's not adding a lot. His defensive play has been awful, he took a bad angle on elias last night and was the reason the devils scored.

While the team is currently battling for a playoff spot, they could just as easily fall out of the race and be left with nothing if he walks. I'd rather see him go than resign, especially with the amount of young defenseman the Isles have coming. They need to clear space for the kids

- Isles_since_6


I agree 100% It's not like we are trading Potvin. Maybe see if you can work a deal for Bishop or Bernier for Streit +?
Nolanders
New York Islanders
Location: Canada
Joined: 08.24.2007

Apr 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
may not be popular opinion, but I say trade Streit, throw Boyes in with him and attempt to get someone back like Leddy. If needed throw colin mcdonald, grabner or bailey on the first line, plug anders lee in at wing to fill a third line role and bump grabner up to second line if Bailey is the one to move up. Bring up Nino or Strome and keep going. Even if you deal streit for a 1st round pick it's preferable to losing him for nothing and frankly right now he's not adding a lot. His defensive play has been awful, he took a bad angle on elias last night and was the reason the devils scored.

While the team is currently battling for a playoff spot, they could just as easily fall out of the race and be left with nothing if he walks. I'd rather see him go than resign, especially with the amount of young defenseman the Isles have coming. They need to clear space for the kids

- Isles_since_6



100% agree
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 2 @ 12:30 PM ET
You don't have to give up a lot to improve over Reasoner or Aucoin. Even a small trade or two to improve over those two would be a welcomed addition. Nobody is expecting Snow to trade for a big name but little things can improve this team
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 2 @ 12:32 PM ET
You don't have to give up a lot to improve over Reasoner or Aucoin. Even a small trade or two to improve over those two would be a welcomed addition. Nobody is expecting Snow to trade for a big name but little things can improve this team
- Vukota


Right Vukota. Vancouver just picked up Roy. I'm going to love watching all these other teams making deals and we keep hearing why the Islanders cannot make moves.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 2 @ 12:40 PM ET
may not be popular opinion, but I say trade Streit, throw Boyes in with him and attempt to get someone back like Leddy. If needed throw colin mcdonald, grabner or bailey on the first line, plug anders lee in at wing to fill a third line role and bump grabner up to second line if Bailey is the one to move up. Bring up Nino or Strome and keep going. Even if you deal streit for a 1st round pick it's preferable to losing him for nothing and frankly right now he's not adding a lot. His defensive play has been awful, he took a bad angle on elias last night and was the reason the devils scored.

While the team is currently battling for a playoff spot, they could just as easily fall out of the race and be left with nothing if he walks. I'd rather see him go than resign, especially with the amount of young defenseman the Isles have coming. They need to clear space for the kids

- Isles_since_6


You'll be hard pressed to find a GM that is going to think that way. They constantly look up the standings not down. I agree I'd rather get something for him than keep him to eek into the playoffs but I don't think that will happen. Streit is seen as a big part of this organization and we know that Snow and Wang would love nothing more than to get into the playoffs and say 'we told you so' even if at the expense of a potential 1st or 2nd round pick.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think ultimately the Isles will determine that Streit's value to the team is too high right now to deal away for yet another pick when we're more than just alive in this race.

If we didn't have Streit, I think folks wouldn't gripe much if we dealt a 2nd rounder for a decent rental dman...by keeping Streit we're doing essentially the same thing.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 2 @ 12:42 PM ET
I agree 100% It's not like we are trading Potvin. Maybe see if you can work a deal for Bishop or Bernier for Streit +?
- ses111

If you could trade Streit, Boyes and Poulin and get back Bernier, and a second or third round pick I think it's a no brainer. Nabby has been decent at times but has had an awful habit of allowing soft goals when the Isles are up a goal or two that's cost us a fair number of points. Bernier would be an interesting situation. Keep Nabby and have Bernier start splitting games with him to finish the year and then next year Bernier is the number one.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Apr 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
Right Vukota. Vancouver just picked up Roy. I'm going to love watching all these other teams making deals and we keep hearing why the Islanders cannot make moves.
- ses111



Those guys are at the tail end of their carreers and want a chance to win the CUP.. They are not lloking at going to a team that will be good in 2 or 3 years.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 2 @ 12:50 PM ET
If you could trade Streit, Boyes and Poulin and get back Bernier, and a second or third round pick I think it's a no brainer. Nabby has been decent at times but has had an awful habit of allowing soft goals when the Isles are up a goal or two that's cost us a fair number of points. Bernier would be an interesting situation. Keep Nabby and have Bernier start splitting games with him to finish the year and then next year Bernier is the number one.
- Isles_since_6


I agree again.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
Those guys are at the tail end of their carreers and want a chance to win the CUP.. They are not lloking at going to a team that will be good in 2 or 3 years.
- bixll


I'm not saying I want Roy but I want the Isles to make deals. I do not want to watch other teams making deals and always hear excuses how the Isles could not make a deal. It's time for Snow to step up.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 2 @ 12:57 PM ET
I'm not saying I want Roy but I want the Isles to make deals. I do not want to watch other teams making deals and always hear excuses how the Isles could not make a deal. It's time for Snow to step up.
- ses111


I suppose my problem with the whole wish-trading that goes on with folks and Streit is that when you start talking about getting an actual player back, you've left the bounds of realism.

Your trade partner has to be a playoff team since no non playoff team is going to deal for a rental dman. Now you're asking for them to give up a 'decent' player in return, thus subtracting from their own playoff push roster. I just don't see too many teams at play in situation like that.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 2 @ 12:59 PM ET
I suppose my problem with the whole wish-trading that goes on with folks and Streit is that when you start talking about getting an actual player back, you've left the bounds of realism.

Your trade partner has to be a playoff team since no non playoff team is going to deal for a rental dman. Now you're asking for them to give up a 'decent' player in return, thus subtracting from their own playoff push roster. I just don't see too many teams at play in situation like that.

- keaner17


I would think the Sens or King can give up Bishop or Bernier but it's just BS talk as we know the Isles do not like to deal.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 2 @ 1:01 PM ET
The Hurricanes just got Marc Andre Bergeron for Adam Hall and a 7th rd pick....
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Apr 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
I'm not saying I want Roy but I want the Isles to make deals. I do not want to watch other teams making deals and always hear excuses how the Isles could not make a deal. It's time for Snow to step up.
- ses111



Fine, but the fans have to realize that the Isles are on the opposite side of these deals.

But you must be careful because you are right there in the playoff race.

Do you move your Vets that will give you big return, or take your first run at the playoffs in a number of years.

It is a big move, one way or the other.

I would make the moves this year to get the players that you know are ready to go next, and with the pieces that you could pick up by moving the vets at this time, you should be able to get a few roster players for next year that makes the difference.

Just my 2 cents.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
I would think the Sens or King can give up Bishop or Bernier but it's just BS talk as we know the Isles do not like to deal.
- ses111


I'm not even referring to whats likely for the Isles but rather what's realistic from trading in the league. We're very limited at this point in the amount of teams that will have a true interest in acquiring Streit and I have serious doubts we'd be receiving any type of impact player in return. I doubt the Kings would have any interest/need for Streit. The Sens have Gonchar and are likely let him QB the power play.
Of all the teams, maybe Detroit would have some interest but I seriously doubt we'd get anyting but a draft pick and mid grade prospect from them
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
On other thing, I seriously doubt we'd make any deal for a goaltender. We've got three decent goalies coming up through our system and our number 1 guy signed through next year. I doubt that would be seen as an immediate need, certainly not a big enough one to warrant dealing your Captain away for .
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
I'm not even referring to whats likely for the Isles but rather what's realistic from trading in the league. We're very limited at this point in the amount of teams that will have a true interest in acquiring Streit and I have serious doubts we'd be receiving any type of impact player in return. I doubt the Kings would have any interest/need for Streit. The Sens have Gonchar and are likely let him QB the power play.
Of all the teams, maybe Detroit would have some interest but I seriously doubt we'd get anyting but a draft pick and mid grade prospect from them

- keaner17


You are killing me Keaner Again my point of it being always impossible for the Isles to make a deal. All these other teams find a way to deal but not our Islanders.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Apr 2 @ 1:06 PM ET
Nielsen is a usually defensive center who belongs on the third line bcs his game is'nt about scoring completely. He is defensively sound(not as much this year)and plays a "quiet" game kind of like Kenny Jonnson. He also goes into the corners and comes out with it much more than Okposo. Okposo is not defensive nor offensive nor a hitter, you know where I'm going with this....
- Cptmjl


can we stop with Nielsen on 3rd line. the chicago blackhawks wanted to trade from him to put him on the 2nd line. So you think He not good enough for Isles 2nd line. Nielsen is one of the most underrated centres in game. He may not have killer scoring touch but he is incredible skater, great two player and the NHL's best active shootout player by a wide margin.

Aside from few of us here. Everyone wanted Bailey off this team. Meanwhile as big Bailey fan, im most impressed by his physical play. He pushing guys around out there.

Matt Martin, shouldnt have signed with Isles, Snow and Wang short changed this guy. On any other team, coaches would be rewarding him with more and more playing time. Martin deserves some shifts with JT and Moulson on top line.
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