A three year deal for Streit isn't the end of the world. There are seven "D" spots open on any given roster. Streit takes up one. There is no way anyone can accurately speculate when any of the prospects you listed will be legitimately NHL-ready, meaning they take a regular shift and are effective in doing so.

Personally, I'd rather re-sign Streit and look to dump a guy like A-mac when the kids are ready to come up.
- Jethro09

I think the amount is more in question than term. Sure you'd take him for 3 years (I prefer 2), but do you take him for $5 million per season? I'd say even if you continue to use him in his present role, that's a bit steep for a guy who will turn 40 at the end of that term.

So, if all you could get for Streit was a second or third rounder, you'd rather throw away a shot at the playoffs and trade him for that kind of return than to keep him, try and possibly make the playoffs for a team that hasn't made the playoffs in five seasons, and possibly re-sign him before free agency hits in July? I disagree with that. I don't want just something for Streit. I'd want something significant if I'm moving him right now. It all depends on the return. A second or third round pick doesn't do it for me.
- Jethro09

I wouldn't take less than a 2nd. That said, I really think Streit's value to this club isn't that high at this point. Lubo is more than capable of completely taking over his role. Streit's only strength is the power play and he has plenty of lapses on that as well. I just don't think he's all that good frankly. However, as I've been saying, I don't think we will trade him for the very reasons you state. The club is understandbly interested in seeing if this team can get in and then from there they'll test fate.

I agree he needs to be moved. Isles can get value back for Streit. I thought Garth was not going to repeat the PA mistake?
- ses111

Do you a pick or a chance @ the playoffs and try to resign Streit?

I think the amount is more in question than term. Sure you'd take him for 3 years (I prefer 2), but do you take him for $5 million per season? I'd say even if you continue to use him in his present role, that's a bit steep for a guy who will turn 40 at the end of that term.
- keaner17

I think the term is the sticking point for Streit. He probably wants to play till he's 40. He got a late start on his NHL career. He has to know he's not getting the $4M+ per year that he's seeing now. But he probably wants term so he doesn't have to negotiate contracts every summer or every other summer going forward.

I would never pay Streit $5M per season. He's not even making that now. I would love to do a two year, $7.5M deal, but I'd bend and give him three years, but no more than $10.5M. I don't see a problem with those contracts for either side, really.

I wouldn't take less than a 2nd. That said, I really think Streit's value to this club isn't that high at this point. Lubo is more than capable of completely taking over his role. Streit's only strength is the power play and he has plenty of lapses on that as well. I just don't think he's all that good frankly. However, as I've been saying, I don't think we will trade him for the very reasons you state. The club is understandbly interested in seeing if this team can get in and then from there they'll test fate.
- keaner17

But what about depth? Yes, Vis is capable of taking over the top PP QB spot. But what if he goes down? Then who do you have? Nielsen? A-Mac? Good teams, playoff teams, have depth, more than one option for a particular role. You don't have to have only one good offensive d-man on a roster. You can have more than that.

But what about depth? Yes, Vis is capable of taking over the top PP QB spot. But what if he goes down? Then who do you have? Nielsen? A-Mac? Good teams, playoff teams, have depth, more than one option for a particular role. You don't have to have only one good offensive d-man on a roster. You can have more than that.
- Jethro09

i think hickey could help..donovan would merit a look

i think hickey could help..donovan would merit a look
- NYI78

I try not to get too high on prospects...because we've seen some huge reality checks in the recent past when players step on NHL ice...but man, Donovan has impressed me with how he's played since not getting a camp invite. I thought he was just OK early in the season, but now he jumps in the play at the right times, plays well on D...sometimes the stats don't tell the story, but I think they do with Donovan...third in points and fourth in goals for BPort, and a team-leading +12 on a team that's a combined -49.

I try not to get too high on prospects...because we've seen some huge reality checks in the recent past when players step on NHL ice...but man, Donovan has impressed me with how he's played since not getting a camp invite. I thought he was just OK early in the season, but now he jumps in the play at the right times, plays well on D...sometimes the stats don't tell the story, but I think they do with Donovan...third in points and fourth in goals for BPort, and a team-leading +12 on a team that's a combined -49.
- UIF

he really has had a great season

But what about depth? Yes, Vis is capable of taking over the top PP QB spot. But what if he goes down? Then who do you have? Nielsen? A-Mac? Good teams, playoff teams, have depth, more than one option for a particular role. You don't have to have only one good offensive d-man on a roster. You can have more than that.
- Jethro09

Well, if we're talking about in terms of next year, I'd say you have Hickey who will be plenty capable of filling a 'depth power play role'. I'm certainly not going to worry about paying a 38 year old defensemen $4 million a season to be a depth power play dman who can't play defense to save his life. I'd prefer to let Hamonic take that role in the limited term of an injury and if said injury proved wrong term then you address it at that time. While good teams may have depth, they don't typically stock depth on a speciality role with one dimensional players who are 8 years past their prime.

I try not to get too high on prospects...because we've seen some huge reality checks in the recent past when players step on NHL ice...but man, Donovan has impressed me with how he's played since not getting a camp invite. I thought he was just OK early in the season, but now he jumps in the play at the right times, plays well on D...sometimes the stats don't tell the story, but I think they do with Donovan...third in points and fourth in goals for BPort, and a team-leading +12 on a team that's a combined -49.
- UIF

Seems to me Donovan can take over for Streit just fine.

Seems to me Donovan can take over for Streit just fine.
- ses111

i would think so..however if the return is a number two and two c level prospects striet is going nowhere

I think the term is the sticking point for Streit. He probably wants to play till he's 40. He got a late start on his NHL career. He has to know he's not getting the $4M+ per year that he's seeing now. But he probably wants term so he doesn't have to negotiate contracts every summer or every other summer going forward.

I would never pay Streit $5M per season. He's not even making that now. I would love to do a two year, $7.5M deal, but I'd bend and give him three years, but no more than $10.5M. I don't see a problem with those contracts for either side, really.
- Jethro09

Well, neither of us can know for sure but I think Lubo's contract set the bar in Streit's mind. I imagine he's looking for a price tag very similar which would have him around $4-$4.5 million. That's too much for a guy like Streit. I'd rather we spend $5 million on a younger, more verssatile, better option. At best, I'm offering Streit 2 years and no more than $3.5 per season but by no means do I consider Streit that much better than even Martinek at this point.
While Staple is by no means the be all and end all of sources, he's probably more tapped in than just about anyone with this team at this point. His comment that states the Isles want Streit for next year and 'beyond' tells me that the term might be the lesser of issues.
By 2015 I expect this team to be all in...I see no reason to have $3-$4.5 million on the books for Streit at that point when kids like Pedan, Mayfield, Reinhart, Donovan, Hickey etc should all be challenging for key roles.

i would think so..however if the return is a number two and two c level prospects striet is going nowhere
- NYI78

Streit is going nowhere regardless.

Well, neither of us can know for sure but I think Lubo's contract set the bar in Streit's mind. I imagine he's looking for a price tag very similar which would have him around $4-$4.5 million. That's too much for a guy like Streit. I'd rather we spend $5 million on a younger, more verssatile, better option. At best, I'm offering Streit 2 years and no more than $3.5 per season but by no means do I consider Streit that much better than even Martinek at this point.
While Staple is by no means the be all and end all of sources, he's probably more tapped in than just about anyone with this team at this point. His comment that states the Isles want Streit for next year and 'beyond' tells me that the term might be the lesser of issues.
By 2015 I expect this team to be all in...I see no reason to have $3-$4.5 million on the books for Streit at that point when kids like Pedan, Mayfield, Reinhart, Donovan, Hickey etc should all be challenging for key roles.
- keaner17

It really scares me if this team wants Streit for next year and beyond. They talk about the rebuild and not wanting to move the prospects yet they want to lock up guys like Streit long term. I can only imagine what they will do with Boyes.

It really scares me if this team wants Streit for next year and beyond. They talk about the rebuild and not wanting to move the prospects yet they want to lock up guys like Streit long term. I can only imagine what they will do with Boyes.
- ses111

Doug Weight loves Boyes to the point that he talked Snow into signing him. I can't help but wonder if Snow isn't regretting that (despite public comments). I wouldn't be surprised to see another 1 year deal for Boyes but I'd be very disappointed if they go beyond that.
As for Streit, it all depends on the structure of the contract. My problem is that I simply don't see him as that much of a help on the ice NOW let alone two years from now. His powerplay work hasn't been that good this year (IMO) despite our overall decent stats. His defensive zone work is 'offensive'. The guy is awful in his own zone. I have to believe there are better ways to spend $4 million.

It really scares me if this team wants Streit for next year and beyond. They talk about the rebuild and not wanting to move the prospects yet they want to lock up guys like Streit long term. I can only imagine what they will do with Boyes.
- ses111

defensmen take time..we can rant and rave about the 7 dmen prospects but most dmen arent ready till there 21-22 years old sometimes longer.. need some stop gaps along the way

Doug Weight loves Boyes to the point that he talked Snow into signing him. I can't help but wonder if Snow isn't regretting that (despite public comments). I wouldn't be surprised to see another 1 year deal for Boyes but I'd be very disappointed if they go beyond that.
As for Streit, it all depends on the structure of the contract. My problem is that I simply don't see him as that much of a help on the ice NOW let alone two years from now. His powerplay work hasn't been that good this year (IMO) despite our overall decent stats. His defensive zone work is 'offensive'. The guy is awful in his own zone. I have to believe there are better ways to spend $4 million.
- keaner17

If Weight loves Boyes I have to question Weight's hockey knowledge. The Pitt game and the 5-3 show how overrated Streit is on the PP and his D is pitiful.

defensmen take time..we can rant and rave about the 7 dmen prospects but most dmen arent ready till there 21-22 years old sometimes longer.. need some stop gaps along the way
- NYI78

Vish is the stop gap and Donovan should be on the team now. I have to think he is better than Steit on D. To me guys like Reinhart and Pedan are not going to need a lot more time.

If Weight loves Boyes I have to question Weight's hockey knowledge. The Pitt game and the 5-3 show how overrated Streit is on the PP and his D is pitiful.
- ses111

Well, I'd caution against judging someone's hockey knowledge based on their appraisal of one player. Remember, Weight played with Boyes in St. Louis, so he was probably wowed by the kids talent at that time. It's easy to become enamored with players who may have good stick skills only to find out their actual game skills lack. Boyes is a beast in shootouts because he has great offensive talent. Meanwhile, he fails in game action because he lacks intensity and instinct.

Well, I'd caution against judging someone's hockey knowledge based on their appraisal of one player. Remember, Weight played with Boyes in St. Louis, so he was probably wowed by the kids talent at that time. It's easy to become enamored with players who may have good stick skills only to find out their actual game skills lack. Boyes is a beast in shootouts because he has great offensive talent. Meanwhile, he fails in game action because he lacks intensity and instinct.
- keaner17

I do not care if they shared the same womb. Boyes is a soft turnover machine.

do you really want jagr??
- NYI78

This one move changes the entire look of the team if only for the rest of the season:

MM-JT-Jagr
KO-Franz-Bail
Grabs-Auc/Lee(pickem)-Boyes
MM-Zeek-MCd

bye Reasoner and maybe Aucoin depending on your pickem'

Something like this anyway.

Not that it matters now...i'm just sayin

This one move changes the entire look of the team if only for the rest of the season:

MM-JT-Jagr
KO-Franz-Bail
Grabs-Auc/Lee(pickem)-Boyes
MM-Zeek-MCd

bye Reasoner and maybe Aucoin depending on your pickem'

Something like this anyway.

Not that it matters now...i'm just sayin
- gaf92

It goes back to Vukota's point. It does not have to be a blockbuster to help the team. If people say you cannot move Streit because of the playoff fine then what moves are you willing to make to help the team?

This one move changes the entire look of the team if only for the rest of the season:

MM-JT-Jagr
KO-Franz-Bail
Grabs-Auc/Lee(pickem)-Boyes
MM-Zeek-MCd

bye Reasoner and maybe Aucoin depending on your pickem'

Something like this anyway.

Not that it matters now...i'm just sayin
- gaf92

I don't think people realize just how good Jagr still is. He's got 14g 12a right now through 34 games. On a line with Tavares he'd probably be more in the 18-20g area and 20 assists. While folks wonder why Giroux has dropped off the way he has this year, they can look no further than the absence of Jagr. The guy can still easily be a 80-90 point player.

It goes back to Vukota's point. It does not have to be a blockbuster to help the team. If people say you cannot move Streit because of the playoff fine then what moves are you willing to make to help the team?
- ses111

I'm on board with dealing Streint but from a management perspective I think they'd rather add than subtract but don't feel compelled to have to do either.

I'm on board with dealing Streint but from a management perspective I think they'd rather add than subtract but don't feel compelled to have to do either.
- keaner17

I doubt management wants to add they rather keep all stars Streit and Boyes.