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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: On Clowe, Rosehill and the Trade Deadline
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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 2 @ 11:51 AM ET
Trading Voracek is asinine, IMO.
- KGBflyers10

Holy Helen, who even thought of that?

*looks at jak*

flyers2001
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:51 AM ET
My issue is the Flyers facination with no talent hacks like Rosehill. When do they move away from this goon mentality. I would rather have the speed of Harry Z over whatever it is Rosehill brings to the table.
- ggunky


The goon mentality has won cups recently. Having someone on your team that is tough and can stand up to anyone else in the league is reassuring.

There are hundreds on Harry Z's in this league. He brings nothing special to the Flyers. Rosehill will at least bring something useful to the Flyers with the conference they play in.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 11:51 AM ET
Your non-stop analysis of potential Stars trades isn't going to land you a gig on the Sixers Post Game show..
- jmatchett383

Actually it might nobody watches it anyways
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:51 AM ET
Clowe is looking for an enormous deal at about 7 to 8 years. Why would the Flyers make that trade when they have Simmonds and Hartnell?
- KGBflyers10


Takes some huevos to ask for 8 years when you have the same number of goals in the NHL in a given season as every commenter on this board.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 2 @ 11:52 AM ET
My pediatrician used to give me random needles.. never knew what the (frank) they were, some kind of "health shot". After like 10 of them, I got a new doctor.
- mikel33

This sounds like the needle-happy doctor that filled in when our regular was away. Was this needle-sharing fiend in Mount Ephraim on Kings Highway?

LOATHED that guy.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:52 AM ET
It's fine, an opinion was expressed, and the question was answered. According to strict interpretation to the CoC, the conversation should be limited to hockey.

That said, a lot of folks come here to spend time talking to people that have come to "know" over the course of several years and in a lot of cases have personally met and hung out with.

The mods asked once if the community wanted to be free to go off topic and have a rambling sort of experience. It was overwhelmingly in favor of it. That freedom to wander off topic leads to more traffic and comments, which leads to more cash for Eklund.

If I am asked by a mod to knock off talking about OT stuff, fine. But I'm discussing a trade made that was analyzed in the original blog. Rosehill's name is in the headline of it. What the (frank) do people expect to discuss when Rosehill is in the headline of the blog?

- Jsaquella

Naturally, progressive rock and VH1.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:52 AM ET
It's fine, an opinion was expressed, and the question was answered. According to strict interpretation to the CoC, the conversation should be limited to hockey.

That said, a lot of folks come here to spend time talking to people that have come to "know" over the course of several years and in a lot of cases have personally met and hung out with.

The mods asked once if the community wanted to be free to go off topic and have a rambling sort of experience. It was overwhelmingly in favor of it. That freedom to wander off topic leads to more traffic and comments, which leads to more cash for Eklund.

If I am asked by a mod to knock off talking about OT stuff, fine. But I'm discussing a trade made that was analyzed in the original blog. Rosehill's name is in the headline of it. What the (frank) do people expect to discuss when Rosehill is in the headline of the blog?

- Jsaquella


Rosehill
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:52 AM ET
Takes some huevos to ask for 8 years when you have the same number of goals in the NHL in a given season as every commenter on this board.
- johndewar


Marty Brodeur has more goals than Ryan Clowe this season.

GETIDUNHOMER
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:52 AM ET
With Talbot out, the Flyers could have used Zolnierczyk as a 4th liner. Every player is an asset. He can be a bit of an agitator and provides good speed. He was a bit of a spark plug for the Flyers this year. Rosehill is a flat out goon. There's literally nothing he does but fight the other team's goon.

I don't mind so much trading Zolnierczyk as I do in adding an player whose talent level is ECHL, but who is in the NHL because he can fight.

- Jsaquella


Are almost killing people and suspensions included in the "spark plug" role? Did you see a Russian league player was killed by a check similar to Harry Z's hits...

If you want speed on the 4th line... Wellwood. More defense on the 4th line Holmstrom. If you need more grit, Rosehill. More talent overall, McGinn.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:53 AM ET
This sounds like the needle-happy doctor that filled in when our regular was away. Was this needle-sharing fiend in Mount Ephraim on Kings Highway?

LOATHED that guy.

- Flyskippy


Nope, Wenonah.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 2 @ 11:53 AM ET
Takes some huevos to ask for 8 years when you have the same number of goals in the NHL in a given season as every commenter on this board.
- johndewar

flyershockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: smh, NC
Joined: 07.09.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:53 AM ET
Not enough sleep last night?
Someone switch your coffee with decaf?

- Scoob


dont drink coffee, slept fine. but if i was to go onto say a sabres board, and they were ripping a useless trade for 24 hours, i'd make fun of them too. discussing harry z for 24 hours is exactly the kind of thing that makes other sports fans hate philly fans.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:53 AM ET
Exactly what do you give up for a guy like that....you cant trade a package based on potential anymore, but he is still a top four guy, but not a great top four guy...ugh I dont know
- nonpoint22


God only knows

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 2 @ 11:53 AM ET
Nope, Wenonah.
- mikel33

Heh, this could explain my cousins' (who grew up there) disdain for doctors.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 2 @ 11:54 AM ET
If you want speed on the 4th line... Wellwood. More defense on the 4th line Holmstrom. If you need more grit, Rosehill. More talent overall, McGinn.
- leon neon


jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:54 AM ET
Holy Helen, who even thought of that?

*looks at jak*


- Flyskippy

Id try to move him for Nick Shcultz
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 2 @ 11:55 AM ET
Naturally, progressive rock and VH1.
- BulliesPhan87

I was thinking the Argument Sketch from Monty Python, complete with complaints and getting hit on the head lessons.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:55 AM ET
Strangely I wouldn't mind seeing Jagr back here. He was really good for the kids and kicking some of our vets in the butt...
- FlyersGrace


All true, but it's far too late for that. Not enough games left to matter.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:55 AM ET
dont drink coffee, slept fine. but if i was to go onto say a sabres board, and they were ripping a useless trade for 24 hours, i'd make fun of them too. discussing harry z for 24 hours is exactly the kind of thing that makes other sports fans hate philly fans.
- flyershockey

It really isn't, and you really shouldn't worry what other fans think of us. Especially Pittsburgh fans, their opinion of us and our area is null and void.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:56 AM ET
dont drink coffee, slept fine. but if i was to go onto say a sabres board, and they were ripping a useless trade for 24 hours, i'd make fun of them too. discussing harry z for 24 hours is exactly the kind of thing that makes other sports fans hate philly fans.
- flyershockey


Please put the board on your shoulders and talk about something new and exciting with the Flyers. I'm all for it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:56 AM ET
Are almost killing people and suspensions included in the "spark plug" role? Did you see a Russian league player was killed by a check similar to Harry Z's hits...

If you want speed on the 4th line... Wellwood. More defense on the 4th line Holmstrom. If you need more grit, Rosehill. More talent overall, McGinn.

- leon neon


The fact is that Zolnierczyk provided some solid fourth line play when he was up. Flyers went 4-1 in games he played I believe.

I'm not bemoaning the loss of Zolneirczyk, more criticizing two aspects of the mentality:

1. Making a knee jerk trade based on a perceived hole that doesn't really exist

2. The philosophy that says that an enforcer stops other teams from taking liberties.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:56 AM ET
Say "No" to Clowe and "Jes" to Vicodin Jagr!

Home today with more dental complications. So, how you livin'?

- Flyskippy


Wisdom teeth extraction?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 2 @ 11:56 AM ET
Id try to move him for Nick Shcultz
- jak521

Dude, Schultz is 7 years older.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:56 AM ET
Dude, Schultz is 7 years older.
- Flyskippy

Not Schultz... Shcultz

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:57 AM ET
dont drink coffee, slept fine. but if i was to go onto say a sabres board, and they were ripping a useless trade for 24 hours, i'd make fun of them too. discussing harry z for 24 hours is exactly the kind of thing that makes other sports fans hate philly fans.
- flyershockey


Then bring up another topic, rather than complaining and name calling.

Want to discuss the Flyers possible pursuit of Tyler Myers and Thomas Vanek?
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