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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: On Clowe, Rosehill and the Trade Deadline
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
I'm sorry, I had to post this trade proposal from the Vancouver board:

Higgins, Jensen, Booth, Ballard, Lu for Couturier, Hartnell, Schenn twins, and Simmonds
- TheNugeIsHuge

- Orpik44



Must have been a Rocket Scientist who posted that on his break.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
Sense of impending doom feeling right now.
The losing games in the short season I can handle for some reason.
Clowe for a 1st rounder or a viable young forward I can't.

- Marc D[/img]


Yep. I'm good with writing this off and trying over again next year with a full camp, etc.

If things still are status quo, you can always rip it up in December.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 10:30 AM ET
I'm sorry, I had to post this trade proposal from the Vancouver board:

Higgins, Jensen, Booth, Ballard, Lu for Couturier, Hartnell, Schenn twins, and Simmonds
- TheNugeIsHuge

- Orpik44


The Nuge needs to put down the video game controller and slowly back away.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
I'm sorry, I had to post this trade proposal from the Vancouver board:

Higgins, Jensen, Booth, Ballard, Lu for Couturier, Hartnell, Schenn twins, and Simmonds
- TheNugeIsHuge

- Orpik44

so let me make an equal ridiculous proposal....Sedin twins, Lu, Edler, and Hamhuis for Gervais,Rinaldo, Talbot, and Gagne and Bryz...give me a break
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
Adding Clowe only begins to make sense if you speculate that the Flyers plan to trade Simmonds or Hartnell in a deal to add a defenseman. Otherwise, I agree. let's see what McGinn can do.
- MJL


Trading Hartnell might make some sense based on the return.

But Simmonds should not be moved, just love everything about his game and he is going to get a lot better. Feel the same way about Voracek.

The only place you would think about a Simmonds deal would be if you had the possibility of a top #1 D man coming from the other side.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
Read, Gus, and the 2nd rounder that holgrem wants to get rid of for Big Buff. Any thoughts?
- wtfd103074


*dial tone*
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 10:32 AM ET
so let me make an equal ridiculous proposal....Sedin twins, Lu, Edler, and Hamhuis for Gervais,Rinaldo, Talbot, and Gagne and Bryz...give me a break
- nonpoint22


C'mon that's not right.

You should at least toss in Rosehill.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
I'm sorry, I had to post this trade proposal from the Vancouver board:

Higgins, Jensen, Booth, Ballard, Lu for Couturier, Hartnell, Schenn twins, and Simmonds
- TheNugeIsHuge

- Orpik44

That BC bud is hellagood
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 2 @ 10:33 AM ET
I hope any and all deals Homer is considering fall apart unless a top defenseman is part of the trade, and that seems very unlikely as we head into the POs.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
Harry Z's deal runs out after this Season also. So the deal was not made to clear a salary slot in the off seasons. It was done to add some toughness to the lineup in response to the last couple of games with Giroux being targeted.
- MJL


Don't we want them to NOT make reactionary deals? I understand that, in the long run, it's a minor deal, but this team should be making deals based on some internal game plan.
I just don't like Rosehill, it's that simple. Didn't like him when he made his debut, and never thought he was that good of a fighter. But, as long as he's not signed to a 3-year deal making $1.1M per year, it's not that big.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
C'mon that's not right.

You should at least toss in Rosehill.

- johndewar


Your right my apologizes
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
hours later I still hate the Harry Z move. I get that he is Harry Z. we are not talking about a regular. I get that he has little finish. but quite frankly I rather have a young guy who is still under control (RFA) with little finish who has blazing speed for a guy who is a slug/fighter who has no finish.
- nastyflyergirl


I refuse to care about this trade. Harry Z is an AHL talent.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
I'm sorry, I had to post this trade proposal from the Vancouver board:

Higgins, Jensen, Booth, Ballard, Lu for Couturier, Hartnell, Schenn twins, and Simmonds
- TheNugeIsHuge

- Orpik44

kind of him not to ask for Claude too
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
I hope any and all deals Homer is considering fall apart unless a top defenseman is part of the trade, and that seems very unlikely as we head into the POs.
- wolfhounds


What scares me about the Clowe deal is if say a d man was coming with like a Boyle or even Burns , then they would of sat them last night but that wasnt the case so I doubt defense help is coming with him
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
I hope any and all deals Homer is considering fall apart unless a top defenseman is part of the trade, and that seems very unlikely as we head into the POs.
- wolfhounds


I am a big fan of what Holmgren has done. This is going to be a very good team for a long time. They only have two essential needs at this point. They need a #1 Dman and a reliable backup goalie who can take every 4th or 5th game and get you a few wins over the season.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
Nick Kypereos of sportsnet reported that it might be a 3 team deal which is why it is taking so long to complete, so maybe flyers are part of a Ryane Clowe trade and are not getting Ryane Clowe.....just a thought
- nonpoint22

If you're referring to the below tweet, I interpreted it as meaning that there are 3 parties involved: the Sharks, the Flyers, and Clowe because of his NTC/NMC. Not that there's a 3rd team involved. Even though if the Flyers are in on this deal, I pray we're the 3rd team.

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper

Status quo #Sharks Clowe despite talk this one could have been done. 3-party deal w/ 2 teams+player lends a slower process. #TradeTracker
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
I refuse to care about this trade. Harry Z is an AHL talent.
- bradleyc4

+1
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
kind of him not to ask for Claude too
- five4fighting10


Well then they would have to throw in Mason Raymond which would make the deal totally lopsided in our favor
flyers2001
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Apr 2 @ 10:40 AM ET
Its nice to see the Flyers add Rosehill. The east is stacked with teams that play tougher guys every night.

With Rinaldo playing solid on a 3rd line checking role, the Flyers can use a solid guy to intimidate and enforce when necessary.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 10:41 AM ET
If you're referring to the below tweet, I interpreted it as meaning that there are 3 parties involved: the Sharks, the Flyers, and Clowe because of his NTC/NMC. Not that there's a 3rd team involved. Even though if the Flyers are in on this deal, I pray we're the 3rd team.

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper

Status quo #Sharks Clowe despite talk this one could have been done. 3-party deal w/ 2 teams+player lends a slower process. #TradeTracker

- five4fighting10


It is and your right I glanced at it to quickly and misinterpreted it...you are correct thanks
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 10:41 AM ET
I am a big fan of what Holmgren has done. This is going to be a very good team for a long time. They only have two essential needs at this point. They need a #1 Dman and a reliable backup goalie who can take every 4th or 5th game and get you a few wins over the season.
- spatso


With St. Louis just getting Bouwmeester and Leopold, any chance we could get a guy like Jackman or Russell? Probably not, but just wondering.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
With St. Louis just getting Bouwmeester and Leopold, any chance we could get a guy like Jackman or Russell? Probably not, but just wondering.
- jmatchett383


Both teams that aquired defensemen last night have too many so anything is possible, but i think they are taking the adage you can never have too many defensemen come playoff time
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 10:46 AM ET
Both teams that aquired defensemen last night have too many so anything is possible, but i think they are taking the adage you can never have too many defensemen come playoff time
- nonpoint22


Probably the case, it was just a thought.

Also, I finally figured out the Rosehill trade.

The Flyers got Marty Biron is 06/07, and he was Danny Briere's best friend in Buffalo. So when Briere became a UFA, his ex teammate helped lure him to Philadelphia.

It is very clear that Rosehill is to BOB RYAB what Biron was to Briere. BOB RYAB FTW for Harry Z.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 10:47 AM ET
Adding Clowe only begins to make sense if you speculate that the Flyers plan to trade Simmonds or Hartnell in a deal to add a defenseman. Otherwise, I agree. let's see what McGinn can do.
- MJL


Or, if they get him via a steal deal... Highly unlikely since other teams are in the chase. The only reason why I think the Flyers are after him, is that, he's been on their radar for a while. You have to grab desired players when available. I agreed however, Clowe would be redundant with the current roster.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 2 @ 10:48 AM ET
I am a big fan of what Holmgren has done. This is going to be a very good team for a long time. They only have two essential needs at this point. They need a #1 Dman and a reliable backup goalie who can take every 4th or 5th game and get you a few wins over the season.
- spatso


Homer's made some very good moves, and taken some big swings and whiffed, but this season, with this team, going after Clowe just doesn't make sense. If it's part of a bigger deal, I suppose we'll all know soon enough.
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