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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 2 @ 2:02 PM ET
Anyone know anything about these guys?
- johndewar



MacDermid was already on the Bruins active roster... tough kid with decent hands, will fall into the role of goon who can play (Scott Thornton-ish).

Payne's really a project/fringe prospect.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 2:02 PM ET
Anyone know anything about these guys?
- johndewar


Payne's an intriguing kid, really blossomed this year. Both are mid-level prospects, similar to what Calgary got for Iginla
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
Neal already had 3 20-goal seasons under his belt at the time of the deal.

Golisgoski's been up and down, a healthy scratch at times.

That deal set them way back in the same way the Erik Johnson trade set the Avs back. Both those clubs would be in PO position today if they had stuck with what they had.

- Tomahawk


I just don't think he becomes the players he does if he stays with Dallas. He doubles his shot output and triples the # of PP goals after the move. That's how you go from being a 25 goal scorer to a 40 goal scorer. All with the help of a guy named Malkin.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
Best .gif ever


- PLindbergh31





That's a good one!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
Anyone know anything about these guys?
- johndewar

They're both big wingers who project to be a fighter and a power forward. Both 4th liners. Mcdermid was on the roster but is really an AHL player at this point. The other kid is still in the OHL.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
They have Lauridsen and Huskins around, but why not Danny Syvret at this point..

Kurtis Foster will not be missed.

- johndewar


Because Syvret isn't really much more than a bubble guy. Rather see Manning, despite his struggles.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
Anyone know anything about these guys?
- johndewar


My friend is a Bruins nut, but he is objective. He follows their minor leagues he's been up to Providence for a bunch of games, he said the guys they gave up are basically career minor league players.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
anyone else feel like Jagr is motivated by his desire to "F" the Pens?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
So Foster on waivers.... Interesting must mean Grossmann is ready to go.

When another Dman goes down Wednesday night, I guess it will be Syvret time.

- PLindbergh31



Just because Foster is on Waivers, doesn't mean that he's no longer going to be with the team.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
I just don't think he becomes the players he does if he stays with Dallas. He doubles his shot output and triples the # of PP goals after the move. That's how you go from being a 25 goal scorer to a 40 goal scorer. All with the help of a guy named Malkin.
- bradleyc4



Neal's been scoring with or w/o Malkin.

Would lining up next to Jamie Benn really be that big of a step down?
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
Neal's been scoring with or w/o Malkin.

Would lining up next to Jamie Benn really be that big of a step down?

- Tomahawk


Yes. And When Neal hasn't been scoring with Malkin he has been scoring with Crosby.

Neal was goalless for 9 games before Malkin got back and he potted one.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:11 PM ET
My friend is a Bruins nut, but he is objective. He follows their minor leagues he's been up to Providence for a bunch of games, he said the guys they gave up are basically career minor league players.
- PLindbergh31

so they would be top 10 prospects for the flyers?
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
Yes. And When Neal hasn't been scoring with Malkin he has been scoring with Crosby.
- GirouxForTheShow

So he goes both ways
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
anyone else feel like Jagr is motivated by his desire to "F" the Pens?
- Dkos


While I don't know if this is true, I would fully approve.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 2:13 PM ET
so they would be top 10 prospects for the flyers?
- nails


Payne might squeak into the Flyers top ten.


The pick in the Jagr deal could become a 1st, based on playoff performance, per Jimmy Murphy of ESPN Boston
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
anyone else feel like Jagr is motivated by his desire to "F" the Pens?
- Dkos

I think those times are past and he is focused on the present to be honest. That said, I would love to see him with BOS play PIT in the POs this year. Would be a good subplot with all the Iggy stuff.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
Yes. And When Neal hasn't been scoring with Malkin he has been scoring with Crosby.

Neal was goalless for 9 games before Malkin got back and he potted one.

- GirouxForTheShow

Neal had 21 goals in 59 games in his last season in Dallas. Thats a 30 goal pace.. without Crosby or Malkin.. and in his third season.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
Payne might squeak into the Flyers top ten.


The pick in the Jagr deal could become a 1st, based on playoff performance, per Jimmy Murphy of ESPN Boston

- Jsaquella


Yeah, but if the Bruins go far, it might as well be a 2nd round pick.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:15 PM ET
Payne might squeak into the Flyers top ten.


The pick in the Jagr deal could become a 1st, based on playoff performance, per Jimmy Murphy of ESPN Boston

- Jsaquella



Well, that would make that a pretty good deal for dallas
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 2:15 PM ET
Yeah, but if the Bruins go far, it might as well be a 2nd round pick.
- johndewar


Yeah, but Dallas got basically the same return for a one year rental as Calgary got for their franchise player
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 2:15 PM ET
@RealRocket22: Flyer fans !! Getting Jagr , Vanek , Iginla or Clowe for short term and give up a bunch of young guys and picks is not the right way !!agree except vanek he can help for years to come
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:16 PM ET
Yeah, but if the Bruins go far, it might as well be a 2nd round pick.
- johndewar


In a deep draft, that is OK
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 2 @ 2:16 PM ET
Even though nothing was given up for Huskins, should have just waited for waivers. Guys like Montador and Barker were waived today. Rather have either one of those guys.
- PLindbergh31



Wow, how far they have fallen out of grace. What's the deal on those two?
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 2 @ 2:16 PM ET
Neal had 21 goals in 59 games in his last season in Dallas. Thats a 30 goal pace.. without Crosby or Malkin.. and in his third season.
- jak521


I'm looking at 78 games played and 27 goals in his last season with Dallas

http://www.rotoworld.com/...layer/nhl/2502/james-neal

Edit:gotcha now jak.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 2:16 PM ET
Yeah, but Dallas got basically the same return for a one year rental as Calgary got for their franchise player
- Jsaquella


You're right.

Nieuwy did not get Feastered.
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