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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 10:36 AM ET
Had I known that, I would have had you take a picture with Kurtis Foster.
- johndewar

People tried to get me a meet and greet with Shelley.. it never happened.. Also couldnt find a Shelley jersey.

I got to know Joe Frazier pretty well... and we all know what happened to him
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 3 @ 10:36 AM ET
I a bit scared with all the Yandle stuff....I can handle dealing Coots, although I view that as a mistake, but this years first could cripple us for years and I hope they understand that......desperation make GM's do stupid things
- nonpoint22


Snider is prob so red in the face right now, he's banging on Holmers office door right now screaming to trade for a dman
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:36 AM ET
Then I clearly dont understand it...
- jak521



It's not really easy to understand. It can be complicated. But tagging space is basically a combination of available cap space for the next season, and the total of expiring UFA contracts.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:37 AM ET
Umberger,Upshall,Lupul,pronger and Richards
- nonpoint22



Carter, Richards, JvR, Pronger jerseys... Carcillo shirt.

Picture with Nodl, Carcillo, and Carter.

If I do anything related to the players or their namesake they are gone in no time.



- jak521


I'm hoping I don't go 4 for 4:

Williams - Orange
Richards - Black
JVR - White

READ - WC



- bgratch



I suddenly feel better. But still poorer.....
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
It's not really easy to understand. It can be complicated. But tagging space is basically a combination of available cap space for the next season, and the total of expiring UFA contracts.
- MJL

Ahh.. so those two leaving would take away two expiring contracts.. gotchya. Stupid IMO. Also stupid that significant, career ending injuries cant be handled appropriately.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
With long-term planning in mind, if Getzlaf got $8 million/yr, how much is G worth (I know he will still only be a RFA)? I don't blame Bryz for the defensive woes this year, but I can see the interest in Bishop. Buyout Briere and Bryz, and Kimmo and Mez come off the books after next there will be plenty of cap space to re up G and/or B. Schenn and Coots.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:40 AM ET
I a bit scared with all the Yandle stuff....I can handle dealing Coots, although I view that as a mistake, but this years first could cripple us for years and I hope they understand that......desperation make GM's do stupid things
- nonpoint22

i doubt if even homer will do that much of a knee jerk. couts should bring a two way dman, not a gogo+ type guy.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 3 @ 10:41 AM ET
NOOOOO

I love Yandle but dear god Homer do NOT deal Couturier...

- LordStanley88


If you look at it logically they probably are looking next year and what they have and center is what they have a lot of and if you look at it...G is obviously your top center, I beleive they see Schenn as more of a 2nd line scoring center, and Laughton is better slotted of more of a third line center, and then Talbot is 4th.....aka Coots is expendable for something you need so I actually believe the Yandle stuff today
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
If you look at it logically they probably are looking next year and what they have and center is what they have a lot of and if you look at it...G is obviously your top center, I beleive they see Schenn as more of a 2nd line scoring center, and Laughton is better slotted of more of a third line center, and then Talbot is 4th.....aka Coots is expendable for something you need so I actually believe the Yandle stuff today
- nonpoint22


Except Schenn, Laughton, and Talbot are all more "expendable" than Coots. When the word "Selke" is used often when describing a young, sophomore center; he is no longer expendable.....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
Ahh.. so those two leaving would take away two expiring contracts.. gotchya. Stupid IMO. Also stupid that significant, career ending injuries cant be handled appropriately.
- jak521



There is another complication to the tagging space issue. Normally, at this time of the year, tagging space is based on the current Upper Limit. Because the actual Upper Limit for the next Season, is not determined. But in this year's case, next year's Upper Limit is already known. So that changes things, as I understand it. I don't believe there were any transition rules put into place to cover that, but I could be wrong.
Also, if the Flyers weren't already way over the Upper Limit and using LTIR. Moving two players such as Gagne and Fedetenko, would create available Cap space for this Season, which for a team under the Upper Limit, would create more tagging space. But that's not the case with the Flyers. Which is again, another reason why a team wants to stay away from using LTIR if at all possible.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
If you look at it logically they probably are looking next year and what they have and center is what they have a lot of and if you look at it...G is obviously your top center, I beleive they see Schenn as more of a 2nd line scoring center, and Laughton is better slotted of more of a third line center, and then Talbot is 4th.....aka Coots is expendable for something you need so I actually believe the Yandle stuff today
- nonpoint22


Trade Read, Laughton, + or walk away. Couts is a gem IMO. It's time to be patient with our young studs.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
will laughton ever play for the flyers again?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:47 AM ET
will laughton ever play for the flyers again?
- isaiah520

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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:48 AM ET
will laughton ever play for the flyers again?
- isaiah520

Sure, next season. Unless you think he's trade bait... They didn't want to blow the first year of his ELC on this craptastic season.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 3 @ 10:49 AM ET
Except Schenn, Laughton, and Talbot are all more "expendable" than Coots. When the word "Selke" is used often when describing a young, sophomore center; he is no longer expendable.....
- steelydan


I dont think they see it that way...When you trade your Captain for someone your tied to them and Schenn was the centerpiece to that deal, Laughton or Talbot arent getting you the puck moving d man they covet...I understand Coots is someone people arent hesitant about trading and I dont disagree....but you have to give to get
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:50 AM ET
on another note, the remaining top 10 college UFA's

1. Antoine Laganiere — RW — Yale*
2. Drew LeBlanc — C — St. Cloud State*
3. Eric Hartzell — G — Quinnipiac*
4. Ryan Walters — LW — Nebraska Omaha^
5. Rylan Schwartz — C — Colorado College
6. Eriah Hayes — RW — Minnesota State
7. Jeremy Langlois — RW — Quinnipiac*
8. Pat Mullane — C — Boston College
9. Alexander Krushelnyski — W — Colorado College^
10. Parker Milner — G — Boston College

curiosity, if an underclassman is not drafted to date, can he still be drafted? Like say TVR....say he stays in college another year, can someone still draft him despite being older?

- nastyflyergirl


son of Mike?
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 3 @ 10:52 AM ET
Trade Read, Laughton, + or walk away. Couts is a gem IMO. It's time to be patient with our young studs.
- LordStanley88


I see your point and I dont disagree....They are not patient, they have proven that....I have been on record saying they should be sellers or do nothing IMO, but they are certainly making calls...Maybe they are just driving up price on Rags, but I do think they want a puck moving d man with multiple years left on deal....i.e yandle
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:54 AM ET
anyone watching the tsn live show on there website, i cannot get it to work on tsn or nhl network
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:55 AM ET
I see your point and I dont disagree....They are not patient, they have proven that....I have been on record saying they should be sellers or do nothing IMO, but they are certainly making calls...Maybe they are just driving up price on Rags, but I do think they want a puck moving d man with multiple years left on deal....i.e yandle
- nonpoint22


If Homer trades Couturier + for Yandle he needs to fired on the spot.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 3 @ 10:56 AM ET
anyone watching the tsn live show on there website, i cannot get it to work on tsn or nhl network
- mydoglicks


It's edge of your seat entertainment. I may switch over to the Golden Girls. What a friggin snoozefest.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:56 AM ET
If Homer trades Couturier + for Yandle he needs to fired on the spot.
- MBFlyerfan


id trade cooty strait up for oel
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:56 AM ET
It's edge of your seat entertainment. I may switch over to the Golden Girls. What a friggin snoozefest.
- PLindbergh31


The Golden Girls is on??
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:57 AM ET
It's edge of your seat entertainment. I may switch over to the Golden Girls. What a friggin snoozefest.
- PLindbergh31


When the Flyers are in the thick of things heading into the playoffs, I always tried to get the TSN feed, but not this year.

Now, I'm just watching twitter just hoping they don't do anything stupid.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:57 AM ET
If Homer trades Couturier + for Yandle he needs to fired on the spot.
- MBFlyerfan

What about Yandle and Run blade for Coots and our first?
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:58 AM ET
wonder if danny b is playing tonight
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