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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 4/3/13 vs. Canadiens PLUS Trade Deadline and Bernie
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Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Apr 3 @ 8:01 AM ET
No there isn't. And just who are these people?
- MJL


Sure there is. Who are the people who aren't fooled?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 8:02 AM ET
Columbus has apparently made the Kings' 1st rounder available for offensive help. Not sure what we would have to spare that's worth a 1st...
- tangent_man


Nothing the Flyers would want to move, and nothing I'd want to see moved for that pick.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 3 @ 8:03 AM ET
Nothing the Flyers would want to move, and nothing I'd want to see moved for that pick.
- Jsaquella


Yeah, that's why I mentioned 'spare'. If they stand pat today, it's fine with me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 8:03 AM ET
Sure there is. Who are the people who aren't fooled?
- Flyers_01


You made the statement, not me. Back it up. Who are all the people who are fooled? Most people simply root for their team, and want them to play well. Maybe you mistake fans hoping their team can make the playoffs, for being fooled.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 3 @ 8:08 AM ET
Bill, have to ask. What do you make of ek constantly linking the Flyers to Luongo. Obvious answer is generating hits for the site, just wanted your take since you consider ek a friend.
- ukeman


Luongo to Philly makes no sense to me, unless it's as an UFA after he and Bryzgalov have both being bought out.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 8:08 AM ET
Gotta think a contender looking for grit and pk help would give up a 3rd for Fedotenko. I would also think someone would also give upa 3rd for Gagne and maybe a 6th for Knuble. I would probably keepknuble for thevexperience and locker room presence and move the other 2.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 8:09 AM ET
SEMANTICS GAME
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 8:10 AM ET
SEMANTICS GAME
- hereticpride

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 8:14 AM ET
Meanwhile inother news, Jay Feaster has traded Kiprusoff, Giordano, Glencross,3 1st round picksand the keys to the city of Calgary to the Islanders for RickDiPietro, a Denis Potvin retro jersey and a ham and cheese sammich!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 8:14 AM ET
As much as I would truly LOVE to see this team add a major piece for the future.. the TDL is not the time it will happen. So what are my expectations for today? Well, the Flyers will make a minor move after putting their name out there several times. They will probably trade a pick, and then go into tonights game with the same NHL squad. They will win again tonight... and have everybody fully in lets make the playoffs mode.

As for wanting them to make the playoffs vs lose out.... I want them to battle incredibly hard, but have a string of terribly unfortunate bounces go against them and have them lose out. Lets face it.. this is not a cup team. At all. If there was ever a season for them to tank.. and get a good pick.. this is the year. Lock out shortened season? CHECK! Incredibly strong draft class with top end talent through the top 5-10? CHECK! Zero chance at them being a cup winning team? CHECK!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 8:15 AM ET
Meanwhile inother news, Jay Feaster has traded Kiprusoff, Giordano, Glencross,3 1st round picksand the keys to the city of Calgary to the Islanders for RickDiPietro, a Denis Potvin retro jersey and a ham and cheese sammich!
- BiggE

Had to have been a melt. Had to have been...
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 8:15 AM ET
Gotta think a contender looking for grit and pk help would give up a 3rd for Fedotenko. I would also think someone would also give upa 3rd for Gagne and maybe a 6th for Knuble. I would probably keepknuble for thevexperience and locker room presence and move the other 2.
- BiggE

I can see a 3rd for Rusty. I think a 3rd for Gagne is pushing it though. 4th or 5th for him. Sounds about right. 5th or 6th for Knuble.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 8:17 AM ET
As much as I would truly LOVE to see this team add a major piece for the future.. the TDL is not the time it will happen. So what are my expectations for today? Well, the Flyers will make a minor move after putting their name out there several times. They will probably trade a pick, and then go into tonights game with the same NHL squad. They will win again tonight... and have everybody fully in lets make the playoffs mode.

As for wanting them to make the playoffs vs lose out.... I want them to battle incredibly hard, but have a string of terribly unfortunate bounces go against them and have them lose out. Lets face it.. this is not a cup team. At all. If there was ever a season for them to tank.. and get a good pick.. this is the year. Lock out shortened season? CHECK! Incredibly strong draft class with top end talent through the top 5-10? CHECK! Zero chance at them being a cup winning team? CHECK!

- jak521

Get a high pick this team could use pretty badly? Some fan you are.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 8:17 AM ET
As much as I would truly LOVE to see this team add a major piece for the future.. the TDL is not the time it will happen. So what are my expectations for today? Well, the Flyers will make a minor move after putting their name out there several times. They will probably trade a pick, and then go into tonights game with the same NHL squad. They will win again tonight... and have everybody fully in lets make the playoffs mode.

As for wanting them to make the playoffs vs lose out.... I want them to battle incredibly hard, but have a string of terribly unfortunate bounces go against them and have them lose out. Lets face it.. this is not a cup team. At all. If there was ever a season for them to tank.. and get a good pick.. this is the year. Lock out shortened season? CHECK! Incredibly strong draft class with top end talent through the top 5-10? CHECK! Zero chance at them being a cup winning team? CHECK!

- jak521


If Phoenix's price on Yandle comes down, perhaps they add a major piece. But it has to be a long term deal. No picks for veterans today.

If anything, I'd be OK if they claimed Mike Sanotrelli on waivers and then traded Fedotenko and Knuble, calling up Wellwood and riding out the season.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 8:19 AM ET
I can see a 3rd for Rusty. I think a 3rd for Gagne is pushing it though. 4th or 5th for him. Sounds about right. 5th or 6th for Knuble.
- hereticpride

Considering thevRangers just moved 2 2nds and a 3rd for a guy with 0 goals, I figured someone thinon the wing would move a 3rd for Gagne, but I could live with a 4th
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 8:21 AM ET
If Phoenix's price on Yandle comes down, perhaps they add a major piece. But it has to be a long term deal. No picks for veterans today.

If anything, I'd be OK if they claimed Mike Sanotrelli on waivers and then traded Fedotenko and Knuble, calling up Wellwood and riding out the season.

- Jsaquella

What would you consider to be a good price for Yandle?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 3 @ 8:23 AM ET
If Phoenix's price on Yandle comes down, perhaps they add a major piece. But it has to be a long term deal. No picks for veterans today.

If anything, I'd be OK if they claimed Mike Sanotrelli on waivers and then traded Fedotenko and Knuble, calling up Wellwood and riding out the season.

- Jsaquella

I just look at Phillys history on TDL... not much activity on the actual day. I think Yandle's price will be considerably higher now than it will be in July. If it somehow does come down to say.. Matt Read and a 2nd... I say go for it.. but anything more and I wait.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 3 @ 8:24 AM ET
If someone said before the season started on trade deadline day that the Flyers would be 6 points behind the Fishsticks, I would ask what planet are they from.

Flyers have no pieces to trade as shockingly they are all injured, and they shouldn't be buyers unless it helps them beyond this year.

I guess the hope is it's a quiet deadline, and nothing dumb happens. Just let the season play out and reload on July 1.
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Apr 3 @ 8:27 AM ET
I just look at Phillys history on TDL... not much activity on the actual day. I think Yandle's price will be considerably higher now than it will be in July. If it somehow does come down to say.. Matt Read and a 2nd... I say go for it.. but anything more and I wait.
- jak521


NO TRADING MATT READ!
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 3 @ 8:28 AM ET
If Phoenix's price on Yandle comes down, perhaps they add a major piece. But it has to be a long term deal. No picks for veterans today.

If anything, I'd be OK if they claimed Mike Sanotrelli on waivers and then traded Fedotenko and Knuble, calling up Wellwood and riding out the season.

- Jsaquella

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 8:28 AM ET
I just look at Phillys history on TDL... not much activity on the actual day. I think Yandle's price will be considerably higher now than it will be in July. If it somehow does come down to say.. Matt Read and a 2nd... I say go for it.. but anything more and I wait.
- jak521

I don't think PHX is going to take Read for Yandle. Read only has one more year under contract before he is a UFA.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 8:28 AM ET
I just look at Phillys history on TDL... not much activity on the actual day.
- jak521


How quickly you forget the Upshall for Carcillo deal of the century.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 8:29 AM ET
I just look at Phillys history on TDL... not much activity on the actual day. I think Yandle's price will be considerably higher now than it will be in July. If it somehow does come down to say.. Matt Read and a 2nd... I say go for it.. but anything more and I wait.
- jak521


I'm not even sure I'd move more than Read for him. He's a good offensive guy, but I still have issues with the average defensive play and lack of physicality.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 3 @ 8:32 AM ET
I'm not even sure I'd move more than Read for him. He's a good offensive guy, but I still have issues with the average defensive play and lack of physicality.
- Jsaquella


Yandle is Paul Coffey, when he played for the Flyers.
fnmjoe13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Farm, NJ
Joined: 10.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 8:33 AM ET
I want them to battle to the end. As unlikely as the playoffs might be, I want the team, especially the kids, to battle to the end.
- Jsaquella

Exactly. Have to find out what kind of character these guys have for next year.
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