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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 2:19 PM ET
which forward would you guys want to see most coming here?

Fleischman, McArthur, Torres, Nystrom, Boyes?
Howabout a blockbuster trade to acquire Gaborik ?

- MrBigglesworth



No to all!
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Apr 3 @ 2:19 PM ET
This is what this team needs.

One of my all time favorites.

- Deasr1



Agreed! A good defenseman!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 2:19 PM ET
didn't Ottawa get him from the Blues for a 4th?
- wilsonecho91


2nd rounder last year
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
didn't Ottawa get him from the Blues for a 4th?
- wilsonecho91


2nd
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
Probably, but it looks as though if the Flyers want to upgrade the D they are going to most likely have to part with Couturier, the free agent market for defenseman isn't looking to great for this summer. With Laughton and Cousins possibly making the team next season I think they can part with Couts if they can get a good young defenseman back
- FreshFlyer

Not to beat the same old drum, but to fix the top end D problem, I'd prefer they traded Hartnell for a known D man, draft a promising young D man this year and hope in 3 -4 years the pick works out, and keep Couts.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 3 @ 2:21 PM ET
It's an overpayment because Ottawa fills a big need and trades a guy who was going to be their third goalie. Yzerman's goalie choices thus far have made Clarke look like Sam Pollock
- Jsaquella

but talent is talent. whether he was going to be their 3rd goalie or not seems irrelevant to me.
I haven't watched Bishop play, so I wouldn't really know

EDIT: This is one of those deals that no one will be able to evaluate accurately for a couple of years
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
Only on saturday nights, I'm in a suite today
- Deasr1


Sweet!
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
Not to beat the same old drum, but to fix the top end D problem, I'd prefer they traded Hartnell for a known D man, draft a promising young D man this year and hope in 3 -4 years the pick works out, and keep Couts.
- Marc D


Heck yes I would rather see hartnell go, but do you think you will get what you need for Hartnell?
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
It's an overpayment because Ottawa fills a big need and trades a guy who was going to be their third goalie. Yzerman's goalie choices thus far have made Clarke look like Sam Pollock
- Jsaquella

I agree that un-drafter doesn't mean much (although it means something). That said yes OTT got a good player for a "spare" right now. Doesn't mean it was a bad trade for TBL. We need to evaluate this years down the road.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Apr 3 @ 2:23 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Flyers source says price was too high for them on Bishop
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 2:23 PM ET
but talent is talent. whether he was going to be their 3rd goalie or not seems irrelevant to me.
I haven't watched Bishop play, so I wouldn't really know

- nails


Bishop's a 26 year old goalie, who has played 36 NHL games and really hasn't done much until this year. Even now, he's still running on potential.

Conacher is similar to Read, undrafted, but coveted. He's got 24 points and has speed and grit. He's a great fit.

Meanwhile, the Bolts plug in yet another untested goalie
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Flyers source says price was too high for them on Bishop

- FreshFlyer


Bet it was Read and the 4th.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
I agree that un-drafter doesn't mean much (although it means something). That said yes OTT got a good player for a "spare" right now. Doesn't mean it was a bad trade for TBL. We need to evaluate this years down the road.
- coffee junkie


On the surface, it's an overpayment.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
Wow this sucks looking at other teams where they have vets, young guns on the team and players in the pipeline with a low cap. Makes the Flyers organization look like a joke.

Really does make sense though, teams with young guys that produce in their early and mid-20's are the teams that succeed. Not the ones that wait until their young guns get to 27-28.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Flyers source says price was too high for them on Bishop

- FreshFlyer

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 2:25 PM ET
Agreed! A good defenseman!
- Lexington Flyer


He could definitely crack the Top 6 on this team, for sure.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
On the surface, it's an overpayment.
- Jsaquella


Also Ben Bishop wont cost too much coming up...I think it was a good trade, but Ottawa got a lot more then I thought, but we will see....
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
On the surface, it's an overpayment.
- Jsaquella


Especially when you consider what was given up for Lindback, which I think was 2 - 2nd round picks and a 3rd round pick.

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
Heck yes I would rather see hartnell go, but do you think you will get what you need for Hartnell?
- nails

You aren't going to get everything you need for just Hartnell.

But he could get a very good top four puck moving type of defenseman I believe.
Might have to thrown in a pick or prospect for the right guy.



Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
Flyers get Sieve Mason, per Ren Lavioe
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Apr 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Flyers source says price was too high for them on Bishop

- FreshFlyer

Hoer staying the course. Go Flyers
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Apr 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
Not to beat the same old drum, but to fix the top end D problem, I'd prefer they traded Hartnell for a known D man, draft a promising young D man this year and hope in 3 -4 years the pick works out, and keep Couts.
- Marc D


That could be done as well but I'm not sure Hartnell could net that #1 guy the Flyers need on the back end. I'm guessing Couturier could do that which is why I am not against trading him in the right deal. Hartnell also brings a lot of intangibles Couts doesn't bring which is why I would be hesitant in trading Hartnell
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Apr 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Flyers source says price was too high for them on Bishop

- FreshFlyer


Well done Holmer...sometimes the best trades are the ones left on the bargaining table!
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Apr 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
Flyers get Sieve Mason
- Jsaquella

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
Wow this sucks looking at other teams where they have vets, young guns on the team and players in the pipeline with a low cap. Makes the Flyers organization look like a joke.

Really does make sense though, teams with young guys that produce in their early and mid-20's are the teams that succeed. Not the ones that wait until their young guns get to 27-28.

- Glak18


I admire that the Flyers really care about putting out a good, successful product. I really do.

But the fact is, the Flyers have done that at the expense of their farm system and player development programs.
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