Homer is the WORST GM in the history of GM's! First Hall and now MASON? He should be fired immediately, if not sooner! *

(* just seeing if I can sum up the last few pages of posts by the usual suspects)

He's a RFA, the only way he gets a pay cut is if they re-sign him prior to the Qualifying period.
- Jsaquella

whats he worth right now 1.5 for 2 years?

A 3rd rounder for a look-see is a bit steep for me.

What kind of audition will Mason be able to get until the end of the year in order to make a sound decision whether to buy out Breeze? We can't carry both salaries through next year - are they planning on rolling the dice and going forward next season with Mason and an inexpensive backup?

Questions...questions...
- 77rams

Its the person who's doing the looking/determining that concerns me, not a very strong track record recently in identifying talented goalies. Or perhaps they have identified talented goalies, i.e. Bob, Emery wasn't horrible, and then traded them away; which unto itself is a whole other issue.

Agreed. They could also let Mason walk after taking a look at him this year, or offer him 2M or less and nothing more and let him walk if he doesn't take it.
- coffee junkie

How many starts will he get? Even if he gets them all (doubtful) that isn't much of a look.

My heart tells me that Bryz is bad in the locker room and the team doesn't want him anymore. Just my 2 cents.

If that's the case they can all go frank themselves, imho.

You know i didn’t want to trade picks or youth. A 3rd for an under achieving goalie making almost 3 million, too much to give up in my opinion.
- ggunky

I agree, but it's not awful. It's far from a great trade, but it's also not necessarily an awful deal.

An NHL team is 23 players. The record shows how good the team is. Not if individual players are producing. There are different levels of potential for players in their 20's. As an example, Tye McGinn doesn't have the potential that Jake Voracek has.
The last comment, makes zero sense.
- MJL

Lots of players have huge potential, that means....

Nothing unless there is results. Playing the potential game is pointless. Martin St. Louis had very little potential to play in the NHL when he was in Calgary.

pinoccio said ottowa wanted cooty for bishop
- mydoglicks

I think when you see what they got its kinda implied what they wanted

Just popping in for a moment, and I'm sure this is being discussed @ length. Mason doesn not mean Bryz is an automatic buyout.

They don't have to qualify Mason and he can walk. One thing that we all know for sure is that Leighton is not a NHL level goaltender & if for some reason the Flyers can squeak into the PO's and Bryz gets hurt or faulters, you need a viable back up. If not then they can enter off season in same position as they would've had they not traded Leighton, which is a back up goalie w/an expiring contract.

EDIT: I'm not a huge fan of throwing in the 3rd rounder...
- flyguy12

Yeh they threw away a very high third rd pick in a deep draft, if they don't keep Mason.

It's possible they walk away from Mason, for sure. But on the limited evidence, it sure looks ominous for Bryzgalov jerseys being sold at full price next year
- Jsaquella

But mason stinks! I see little impact on bryzgalov with this signing. Can't the flyers resign him for about 1.5 per? This guy hasn't done crap in 4 years. But is an ok backup. I'm pissed the flyers don't seem to be shopping gagne or feds

pinoccio said ottowa wanted cooty for bishop
- mydoglicks

But settled for Cory Conacher. Sure.

Just popping in for a moment, and I'm sure this is being discussed @ length. Mason doesn not mean Bryz is an automatic buyout.

They don't have to qualify Mason and he can walk. One thing that we all know for sure is that Leighton is not a NHL level goaltender & if for some reason the Flyers can squeak into the PO's and Bryz gets hurt or faulters, you need a viable back up. If not then they can enter off season in same position as they would've had they not traded Leighton, which is a back up goalie w/an expiring contract.
- flyguy12

yes, it gives them an option if they even make it, which they very likely will not, so they end up throwing away a 3rd round pick. hate that. hate.

Do you really think Mason threatens Bryzgalov's job?

Redden to Boston.
- tangent_man

If Mason can get close to his previous form he definitely can. From what I've seen of him this year he hasn't been all that bad.

pinoccio said ottowa wanted cooty for bishop
- mydoglicks

I know it's Pinaccio, but....

YupNOPE

Just popping in for a moment, and I'm sure this is being discussed @ length. Mason doesn not mean Bryz is an automatic buyout.

They don't have to qualify Mason and he can walk. One thing that we all know for sure is that Leighton is not a NHL level goaltender & if for some reason the Flyers can squeak into the PO's and Bryz gets hurt or faulters, you need a viable back up. If not then they can enter off season in same position as they would've had they not traded Leighton, which is a back up goalie w/an expiring contract.
- flyguy12

Minus a third round pick....Which is really the crux of why most people are bothered.

Worst case scenario is we are out a third round pick and still in the market for a backup goalie.

All that being said, I am not terribly bothered by the deal.

Do you really think Mason threatens Bryzgalov's job?

Redden to Boston.
- tangent_man

No, I think that the decision may have been made already and Mason is a guy they have liked for awhile-in fact he was almost included in original Carter trade

Its the person who's doing the looking/determining that concerns me, not a very strong track record recently in identifying talented goalies. Or perhaps they have identified talented goalies, i.e. Bob, Emery wasn't horrible, and then traded them away; which unto itself is a whole other issue.
- aosplayo

Basically, it comes down to: Do we trust Jeff Reese?

But mason stinks! I see little impact on bryzgalov with this signing. Can't the flyers resign him for about 1.5 per? This guy hasn't done crap in 4 years. But is an ok backup. I'm pissed the flyers don't seem to be shopping gagne or feds
- Just5

Mason is a guy they have liked for awhile, who they feel they can fix. It's time to just wait and see now.

I think it means they want to buy out Bryz, and use amnesty to get rid of the long deal they should not have made in the first place with him.

Really poor management, because I actually think Bryz is a decent goalie, I like his crazy side, and I believe the Flyers did not have to give him that contract to get him here.

Whatever.

GO Flyers.
I still love them even if this reeks of dumb.
- Marc D

A Bryz buyout would explain the trade, but I still think it's dumb. We're back full circle to having poop/questionable (glass half empty/half full interpretations) goaltending if this is the plan. This is really frustrating.

Basically, it comes down to: Do we trust Jeff Reese?
- johndewar

- Giroux_Is_God

No, I think that the decision may have been made already and Mason is a guy they have liked for awhile-in fact he was almost included in original Carter trade
- Jsaquella

Just go get SUNSHINE HOMER!!!!

###NEWS ALERT ###

danny b has fully recovered, is practicingand will play tonight

You know i didn’t want to trade picks or youth. A 3rd for an under achieving goalie making almost 3 million, too much to give up in my opinion.
- ggunky

What were the odds that Columbus was going to qualify him for next year to be the backup. Columbus has to be jumping for joy they got anything for him at this point in time.

I really hate the goalie swaps with Columbus. Holmgren should be ashamed. I know I'm ruling with the power of hindsight here, but I don't understand this Mason trade at all.
- BulliesPhan87

I do and I don't. I think the feeling is that IF the Flyers were able to squeeze into the playoffs, we would need a backup goalie.

OK, question for everyone. Obviously, the Carter and Richards trades were good for the Flyers, and I'm assuming most people here liked them from the get go. I was just looking at the Flyers transactions since Homer took over, and honestly I can say I didn't like the vast majority of them when they happened, and they seem to not have worked out well for the Flyers either.

I liked the Jagr signing, and seemed to be on track with that. I didn't like the Grossmann trade, and was wrong on that. I'm lukewarm on L Schenn (thought we gave up a little too much, tbd). Other than that I really have not liked any signing or trade, and only a few of the draft picks.

What are your thoughts on good/bad Flyers moves in Holmgren era?

Just popping in for a moment, and I'm sure this is being discussed @ length. Mason doesn not mean Bryz is an automatic buyout.

They don't have to qualify Mason and he can walk. One thing that we all know for sure is that Leighton is not a NHL level goaltender & if for some reason the Flyers can squeak into the PO's and Bryz gets hurt or faulters, you need a viable back up. If not then they can enter off season in same position as they would've had they not traded Leighton, which is a back up goalie w/an expiring contract.

EDIT: I'm not a huge fan of throwing in the 3rd rounder...
- flyguy12

I am happy with Mason over leighton as a the backup. just not thrilled at the 2.9 cap hit and the fact they move Bob in the first place only to turn around and trade for mason. that just makes me shake my head