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coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 3 @ 5:53 PM ET
Me three.

I don't think it is unreasonable speculation that the Mason trade is a preemptive move to buy out Bryzgalov. But I don't think that's going to happen this Summer. But saying that, I'm not dismissing it as a possibility. I think they negotiate a lesser deal with Mason as a backup. And evaluate the situation next off season

- MJL

Agreed on all fronts. That would be the best case scenario here.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 3 @ 5:54 PM ET
Alright, big question:

How did Homer do today?

A
B
C
D
or F
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 3 @ 5:54 PM ET
14 trades today?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 3 @ 5:55 PM ET
Dustin Leed
@D_LEED
The general sense I have is that other NHL general managers tried to convince Paul Holmgren that Sean Couturier’s ceiling was defensive FWD.

Dustin Leed
@D_LEED
Which is why most teams low-balled the Flyers with offers. Philly management views #14 very, very highly.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 5:57 PM ET
Alright, big question:

How did Homer do today?

A
B
C
D
or F

- coffee junkie


B. He did not make a panic move. He added one role player through waivers. And added a talented young goalie who has lost his way, fairly cheaply. If he'll sign a deal with a lower AAV. Well worth the risk.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 3 @ 5:59 PM ET
Dustin Leed
@D_LEED
The general sense I have is that other NHL general managers tried to convince Paul Holmgren that Sean Couturier’s ceiling was defensive FWD.

Dustin Leed
@D_LEED
Which is why most teams low-balled the Flyers with offers. Philly management views #14 very, very highly.

- opeth_pa

I get the sense that the other GMs all would love Couts, and to try and steal him for what they could.

Every single trade offer with another team for any decent player starts with asking for Couts.

Bishop for Couts was the latest today. Glad they said no.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 3 @ 5:59 PM ET
I get the sense that the other GMs all would love Couts, and to try and steal him for what they could.

Every single trade offer with another team for any decent player starts with asking for Couts.

Bishop for Couts was the latest today. Glad they said no.

- Marc D

had it been Lehner for Couts, what do you say?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
I get the sense that the other GMs all would love Couts, and to try and steal him for what they could.

Every single trade offer with another team for any decent player starts with asking for Couts.

Bishop for Couts was the latest today. Glad they said no.

- Marc D


Did any GM's try to use the Force, or any Jedi mind tricks?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
Dustin Leed
@D_LEED
The general sense I have is that other NHL general managers tried to convince Paul Holmgren that Sean Couturier’s ceiling was defensive FWD.

Dustin Leed
@D_LEED
Which is why most teams low-balled the Flyers with offers. Philly management views #14 very, very highly.

- opeth_pa

When you never, ever draft defenseman high it's also a huge bargaining chip for the other side to hold the upper hand in any conversation for a D man.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
If and when they do decide to trade him it better be for the player who is a long term solution on the first D pair.

Until then you keep him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
had it been Lehner for Couts, what do you say?
- five4fighting10


Still no! Although I have to admit that I don't know much about Lehner.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
Did any GM's try to use the Force, or any Jedi mind tricks?
- MJL

Well Feaster did. Needless to say it didn't work.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 3 @ 6:01 PM ET
had it been Lehner for Couts, what do you say?
- five4fighting10

no

I like lehner, but its not a position of need
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 3 @ 6:01 PM ET
Alright, big question:

How did Homer do today?

A
B
C
D
or F

- coffee junkie

F as in failed or should be fired
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 6:01 PM ET
Well Feaster did. Needless to say it didn't work.
- hereticpride


Probably the other way around. He had it used on him! I think Ray Shero is a Sith Lord.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
Did any GM's try to use the Force, or any Jedi mind tricks?
- MJL

HA!

I think Nashville did to McFee with the Philip Forsberg deal
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
had it been Lehner for Couts, what do you say?
- five4fighting10

give me more
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
no

I like lehner, but its not a position of need

- Marc D

Agreed. You have Bryz locked up. He isn't Marty or Roy but you sure as heck don't go and trade one of your top pieces to replace the guy.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
F as in failed or should be fired
- 2Real

at least you are consistent
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
Alright, big question:

How did Homer do today?

A
B
C
D
or F

- coffee junkie


B: He did not make any dumb trades involving one of the young core players for a very minimal chance at making the playoffs. Added a goalie that gives options going into next season. Picked up Hall as an ok replacement for Talbot going down.

Does not deserve an A because:

Didn't see the need for the Harry Z for Rosehill trade.
He did not immediately make the team better but I do believe they will address that this summer.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 3 @ 6:04 PM ET
Still no! Although I have to admit that I don't know much about Lehner.
- MJL

I agree, just thought I'd ask. I like Lehner a lot more than Bishop, but still would need more to pull the trigger.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 6:05 PM ET
Dustin Penner at the right price at the right price sounds like a good signing to me.
- DocEmrickVocab


For who IHOP?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:07 PM ET
Alright, big question:

How did Homer do today?

A
B
C
D
or F

- coffee junkie

B

The trade deadline is not a time to buy if you are not gearing up for a long playoff run. That said he should have moved Rusty for a pick. Gag and Knubs too if there were any offers.

Hall was a nice little pickup. Mason gives you an actual option to backup Bryz. Harry Z for Rosehill is what it is. I think we were done with Z and he never had much value at all. A fighter is probably the only way you got someone that would ever see NHL action in return for Z.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 3 @ 6:07 PM ET
Alright, big question:

How did Homer do today?

A
B
C
D
or F

- coffee junkie


Incomplete, depending on resolution of goalie situation
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 3 @ 6:08 PM ET
Incomplete, depending on resolution of goalie situation
- Scoob

what if they re sign Mason for 2 yrs, say 2.8M total

better?
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