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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:13 AM ET
Ruff crowd.
- Flyskippy


Man, you are on fire tonight...is it the drugs, or the lack thereof and finally feeling healthy (kinda) again?

Either way, I can't compete and bow out.

(wait, see what I did there?)
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:20 AM ET
I wish CC was a more realistic option for me at the time. I was pretty keen on entering the service, though and actually planned on staying in for twenty.

Then they wanted me to go on submarines.

Teaching is an easy thing to strip money from, and it's a very competitive field. It's also hard work, not 9 months of playing with kids and 3 months of getting a tan.

- Jsaquella


Nothing wrong with the service, right? Lots of good skills to be had there. But I can understand subs being the line in the sand... You have to be wired a little different to hop into a can and sink beneath the waves. I'd do it a couple times maybe for the experience, but not as a job for years. No way.

Yup, teaching is very competitive. And I used to think summers off was awesome - and seriously, it's not so bad - but a lot of teachers I know pick up odds and ends work where they can. Still, like you said, if it's what you like to do, there's no such thing as too many good teachers.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:00 AM ET
Of course he lacks class. He attended less than you did.


- Flyskippy


You are my favorite person.o
flyers20032002
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Apr 4 @ 2:41 AM ET
(frank)ing right boys.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 4 @ 6:38 AM ET
so did we really win last night, even without a significant roster change?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 4 @ 7:53 AM ET
You are my favorite person.o
- GirouxForTheShow

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 4 @ 7:59 AM ET
Man, you are on fire tonight...is it the drugs, or the lack thereof and finally feeling healthy (kinda) again?

Either way, I can't compete and bow out.

(wait, see what I did there?)

- wolfhounds

Well, I love puns, for one, and enjoy joking via them with others, for two. Don't think the drugs add or subtract, they just make me think different: slower. I haven't taken the Vicodin since Tuesday night, though, taking Ibuprofen since I went to work yesterday and today.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 8:09 AM ET
Meh, I think a lot of that reckless stuff was from players "gripping the stick too tight" so to speak. Or players who arent adept to play such a style.

No worries here though. I am happy with the win. Great for the kids not to end off the season with their faces in the mud.

Whats your take on the whole Bryzgalov future in Philly thing?

- flyer_nutter


The changes I'm seeing have zero to do with players gripping their stick too tight. Players changing how they're positioned on the ice, have zero to do with that. My gut feeling is that Bryzgalov is going no where. Subject to change.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 4 @ 8:11 AM ET
good thing the flyers came to score and put 5 up cuz bryz blewm all 3 goals were soft
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 4 @ 8:16 AM ET
The changes I'm seeing have zero to do with players gripping their stick too tight. Players changing how they're positioned on the ice, have zero to do with that. My gut feeling is that Bryzgalov is going no where. Subject to change.
- MJL


you know, if this was game 36 or 82, there would be no worries right now.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 4 @ 8:18 AM ET
The changes I'm seeing have zero to do with players gripping their stick too tight. Players changing how they're positioned on the ice, have zero to do with that. My gut feeling is that Bryzgalov is going no where. Subject to change.
- MJL

Ill tell ya what.. the best thing that ever happened to this team was having Grossmann, Meszy, and Coburn all go down with injuries...

It literally FORCED Lava to (finally) make changes to the style they play. They have been a much better two way team over the past week.. and points in 4 of 5 games shows that... Had they not had a let down in the Islanders game they would be 4-0-1 in their last 5.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 4 @ 8:22 AM ET
good thing the flyers came to score and put 5 up cuz bryz blewm all 3 goals were soft
- mydoglicks

The 2nd goal was a 3v1 with very good puck movement.. It looked like Bryz thought the pass from galchenyuk was gonna be a onetimer because he committed to the shot, and couldnt slide for the second pass... The knuckle puck goal.. was fluky as hell.. ive seen that same "ducking" reaction many times from many goalies. Its almost as if you lose sight of the puck for a second... and because of how fast it is flipping it seems as though its coming at you very quick... Would like to see him make that save.. but again, it wasnt as if he just stepped out of the net.

The Emelin goal he was completely screened by both a Flyer and a Hab...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 4 @ 8:23 AM ET
you know, if this was game 36 or 82, there would be no worries right now.
- nails

True, but its not. They new they had to play big all season... and they waited until it was just about too late... we need to win 9 of the last 11 to have a serious chance IMO.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 8:23 AM ET
Ill tell ya what.. the best thing that ever happened to this team was having Grossmann, Meszy, and Coburn all go down with injuries...

It literally FORCED Lava to (finally) make changes to the style they play. They have been a much better two way team over the past week.. and points in 4 of 5 games shows that... Had they not had a let down in the Islanders game they would be 4-0-1 in their last 5.

- jak521


Look at that game last night. They went long periods of holding Montreal with out any shots on net. They were not overly aggressive on the forecheck. They kept the 3rd man high, and had a neutral zone presence. They didn't allow a ton of easy entries into their zone. Nor did they have a lot of those shifts where they were pinned in their own zone for entire shifts. And against Montreal, who is one of the top offensive teams. And with a makeshift defense. Or maybe it's just that Huskins and Lauridsen are better then Coburn and Grossmann are? What do you think? It's really a shame it took this long.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 4 @ 8:29 AM ET
Look at that game last night. They went long periods of holding Montreal with out any shots on net. They were not overly aggressive on the forecheck. They kept the 3rd man high, and had a neutral zone presence. They didn't allow a ton of easy entries into their zone. Nor did they have a lot of those shifts where they were pinned in their own zone for entire shifts. And against Montreal, who is one of the top offensive teams. And with a makeshift defense. Or maybe it's just that Huskins and Lauridsen are better then Coburn and Grossmann are? What do you think? It's really a shame it took this long.
- MJL


I like the kid so far. Big and long.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 4 @ 8:31 AM ET
Look at that game last night. They went long periods of holding Montreal with out any shots on net. They were not overly aggressive on the forecheck. They kept the 3rd man high, and had a neutral zone presence. They didn't allow a ton of easy entries into their zone. Nor did they have a lot of those shifts where they were pinned in their own zone for entire shifts. And against Montreal, who is one of the top offensive teams. And with a makeshift defense. Or maybe it's just that Huskins and Lauridsen are better then Coburn and Grossmann are? What do you think? It's really a shame it took this long.
- MJL

Its even sadder that people still deny it. My brother in law swears that Coburn has just been that bad this year (not denying that), and refuses to see any problems with Lavas coaching.

I love how the biggest argument we saw to the cries for change was that the offense wouldnt be as effective...

Since the change ( the past 4 games) the flyers are averaging 4 goals a game.. From the start of the season until the change they had only scored 4 or more goals in 7 games. 2 or fewer in 21 games.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 4 @ 8:31 AM ET
True, but its not. They new they had to play big all season... and they waited until it was just about too late... we need to win 9 of the last 11 to have a serious chance IMO.
- jak521


Yup.
they were just not ready for the season to begin and then the early injuries further hampered that.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 4 @ 8:32 AM ET
Its even sadder that people still deny it. My brother in law swears that Coburn has just been that bad this year (not denying that), and refuses to see any problems with Lavas coaching.

I love how the biggest argument we saw to the cries for change was that the offense wouldnt be as effective...

Since the change ( the past 4 games) the flyers are averaging 4 goals a game.. From the start of the season until the change they had only scored 4 or more goals in 7 games. 2 or fewer in 21 games.

- jak521


Good coverage/team D will always lead to scoring chances.
Oddly enough, that seems to work at every level the game is played at.
frustrating how that seems to get forgotten at the highest levels at times.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 4 @ 8:36 AM ET
Good coverage/team D will always lead to scoring chances.
Oddly enough, that seems to work at every level the game is played at.
frustrating how that seems to get forgotten at the highest levels at times.

- nails

I honestly hope that if we move forward with Lava... he realizes how playing this style is much better suited for ALL of our players.
TorontoFLYER
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 4 @ 8:36 AM ET
Thank you, he is an average goalie and I cannot wait until he is outta here.
- FlyerLifer



Thank You.... I have made a couple of posts referring to Bryz...he is not a consistent goalie. He is almost assured to let in one soft goal every game. It looks like he is just not in it mentally.... I hope they buy him out. Simply not a goalie you can feel comfortable with. They gave up 17 shots and he is letting in 3
TorontoFLYER
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 4 @ 8:42 AM ET
Look at that game last night. They went long periods of holding Montreal with out any shots on net. They were not overly aggressive on the forecheck. They kept the 3rd man high, and had a neutral zone presence. They didn't allow a ton of easy entries into their zone. Nor did they have a lot of those shifts where they were pinned in their own zone for entire shifts. And against Montreal, who is one of the top offensive teams. And with a makeshift defense. Or maybe it's just that Huskins and Lauridsen are better then Coburn and Grossmann are? What do you think? It's really a shame it took this long.
- MJL


You are right about them not being aggressive on the forechecking and keeping a neutral zone presence. The system cut down chances and lets hope they keep with it tonight. ( I can't stand the Leafs! ) Huskins and Lauridsen have both been steady. I would like to see Mason get the start tonight
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 8:46 AM ET
I honestly hope that if we move forward with Lava... he realizes how playing this style is much better suited for ALL of our players.
- jak521


But you know what, there is still a time and a place for the all out press forecheck style. When you're down a goal, or behind. Or when you're playing a team that has a weak defense and is vulnerable to pressure. But the key is to be able to play both ways. And to be able to adapt to the situation. And how much better would the less aggressive forecheck style be, when holding a lead? Because playing the same style, but playing it cautiously, because the players are afraid to make a mistake, when they have a lead, doesn't work. But playing a style that has better positioning defensively, but remaining aggressive. Does work.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 4 @ 8:46 AM ET
Nothing wrong with the service, right? Lots of good skills to be had there. But I can understand subs being the line in the sand... You have to be wired a little different to hop into a can and sink beneath the waves. I'd do it a couple times maybe for the experience, but not as a job for years. No way.

Yup, teaching is very competitive. And I used to think summers off was awesome - and seriously, it's not so bad - but a lot of teachers I know pick up odds and ends work where they can. Still, like you said, if it's what you like to do, there's no such thing as too many good teachers.

- wolfhounds


Yeah, they combined my rate(or job) with another and it went from being 90% manned to being 120% manned. The only area that was undermanned was submarines.

I sat down with the officer, and literally said, "Submarines? Aren't they supposed to sink?" He laughed, but I was serious. The change not only required a long school to get submarine qualified, but it also required a longer enlistment and a move to Washington state.

The other option was a 6 year re-enlistment in another rate, which would have required me to choose another field, get qualified and go to school for a few months and be a more or less unqualified non commissioned officer, because I wouldn't have lost my rank, but my knowledge base wouldn't be as deep as a guy who had been doing the job for four years-basically it'd be like a supervisor coming into an office who had the same, or even less, knowledge and experience at the job than the average worker.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 8:48 AM ET
Thank You.... I have made a couple of posts referring to Bryz...he is not a consistent goalie. He is almost assured to let in one soft goal every game. It looks like he is just not in it mentally.... I hope they buy him out. Simply not a goalie you can feel comfortable with. They gave up 17 shots and he is letting in 3
- TorontoFLYER


The only one I had an issue with is the one that went over his head. I'm still not sure what that was all about. It must have dipped, because his reaction was that he thought it was going over the net.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 8:50 AM ET
I honestly hope that if we move forward with Lava... he realizes how playing this style is much better suited for ALL of our players.
- jak521


And you know what happens when players are comfortable with how they're being asked to play. And are able to play the way they're being asked to play? They play a lot harder, because they're now confident. And aren't second guessing all the time. And doubting the strategy.
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