Burke loved him, no doubt.

He wanted him at the draft, and was unwilling to give up the 7th to move to 5th. He wanted to acquire the 5th(and Schenn), but not at the cost of the 7th.
- Feeling Glucky?

Toronto is heading in the right direction. Goaltending seems to be the biggest issue although I dont think Reimer is bad.

I haven't said anything but I'm listening to 590 in T.O. today and they called him the shakiest goalie they've played lately. They've been ripping his play last night since I turned it on 2 hours ago.
- mayorofangrytown

I'm shocked they have nothing nice to say about the goalie that just beat them. Absolutely shocked I tell you!

I would agree with that. But if money is an issue for St. Louis. Coburn may not be the right piece for them anyway. I would part with Couts for Shattenkirk
- Just5

Shattenkirk is a very good young defenseman.

kadri +?

i forget too
- Crimsoninja

Kadri+Kulemin.

Guys are looking pretty good together now. Glad we didn't deal them, even though I'd love Richards.

I don't remember that. I know Richards almost went to Toronto, but I forget what the rumored package was.
- JFlyers00

There was the Carter for Kaberle trade that almost happened.

I'm shocked they have nothing nice to say about the goalie that just beat them. Absolutely shocked I tell you!
- Scoob

Toronto media not acknowledging any other NHL team doing anything positive? Now I've heard everything!

Toronto is heading in the right direction. Goaltending seems to be the biggest issue although I dont think Reimer is bad.
- stveshdy

3 Biggest needs, IMO:

#1 center(maybe Kadri)
Top-6 tough-as-nails powerforward(got a few prospects for this, doubtful they fill the role)
Big minute shutdown d-man to play with Phaneuf.


the 3rd one gets me pissed about the Aulie and Schenn trades.

- Jsaquella

OUTSTANDING!

There was the Carter for Kaberle trade that almost happened.
- jmatchett383

Or the Toronto asked for Carter for Kaberle and Paul just smiled knowingly and hung up.

"All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"


- Flyskippy

Kadri+Kulemin.

Guys are looking pretty good together now. Glad we didn't deal them, even though I'd love Richards.
- Feeling Glucky?

There it is. I don't watch a lot of Toronto games but we can't complain about Simmonds+B Schen+Cousins

K, the 20% alien abduction thing is bogus in this poll becasue Briere has ALREADY been abducted by aliens. I haven't seen him on the ice all season.
- FlyersGrace

They took his brain

yea definitely didn't see this view on the Philly feed last night


Edit: Sorry if I didn't properly embed the video, I changed the frame width/height so I hope this works. First time trying.
- five4fighting10

Yeah, this view doesn't look like he actually grabs it - more like he sort of hooks it with his glove/wrist while still holding on to his own stick. The Sportsnet freeze frame was too blurry to see that aspect clearly. Looks to me like he probably didn't set out intending to grab or interfere with the top of the goalie's stick, but once he found himself tangled up with it he certainly didn't make much of an effort to release it. Intentional or not, seems pretty clear that he interfered with the goalie. We've certainly seen a lot less get called against us.

Still looks incidental to me.
- johndewar

Me too, Halls hands never leave his own stick. The butt of Riemers stick seems to get caught up.

3 Biggest needs, IMO:

#1 center(maybe Kadri)
Top-6 tough-as-nails powerforward(got a few prospects for this, doubtful they fill the role)
Big minute shutdown d-man to play with Phaneuf.


the 3rd one gets me pissed about the Aulie and Schenn trades.
- Feeling Glucky?

Not sure if this is true but I swear I read something where Schenn and Phaneuf didnt like each other at all. That true?

Me too, Halls hands never leave his own stick. The butt of Riemers stick seems to get caught up.
- MBFlyerfan

Yup. Gets caught either in his jersey or between his hands on the stick.

Not sure if this is true but I swear I read something where Schenn and Phaneuf didnt like each other at all. That true?
- stveshdy

Most likely a product of the Toronto media's overactive imagination.

The rumour was that Schenn was pissed that he beat up his brother.

I have too much respect for L.Schenn to believe that's true.

I don't think Toronto ever lost patience with L.Schenn either(at the organizational level, mind you)... He's exactly the type of player Carlyle loves, and they hired one of the best skating coaches that could have helped him a lot.


I think they're just felt the potential in JVR was too great to pass up- especially under Carlyle's tutelage, and Philly just really wanted to have both the brothers.

Bryzgalov has started the last two games in Winnipeg, going back to February of last year. I don't know why you keep saying this.
- tangent_man

Has he really?

I must be losing it

Not sure if this is true but I swear I read something where Schenn and Phaneuf didnt like each other at all. That true?
- stveshdy

They didnt look like best buds last night while throwing jabs at each other

Maybe the Oil would take Bryz

I would agree with that. But if money is an issue for St. Louis. Coburn may not be the right piece for them anyway. I would part with Couts for Shattenkirk
- Just5

I would not trade Couturier for Shattenkirk. Shattenkirk is a nice player, but he's not that good. For Pietrangelo I would, but not Shattenkirk.

Not sure if this is true but I swear I read something where Schenn and Phaneuf didnt like each other at all. That true?
- stveshdy

Yeah, I've heard those rumors too. Wonder if there is any truth to them?

Most likely a product of the Toronto media's overactive imagination.

The rumour was that Schenn was pissed that he beat up his brother.

I have too much respect for L.Schenn to believe that's true.

I don't think Toronto ever lost patience with L.Schenn either(at the organizational level, mind you)... He's exactly the type of player Carlyle loves, and they hired one of the best skating coaches that could have helped him a lot.


I think they're just felt the potential in JVR was too great to pass up- especially under Carlyle's tutelage, and Philly just really wanted to have both the brothers.
- Feeling Glucky?

The glaring, giant need on the Flyers blue line >>>>> Having both brothers.

They didnt look like best buds last night while throwing jabs at each other
- jak521

True that.

I would not trade Couturier for Shattenkirk. Shattenkirk is a nice player, but he's not that good. For Pietrangelo I would, but not Shattenkirk.
- MJL

Same. Shattenkirk is slightly overrated... He's only had one good year and he's isn't big at all, is average to decent defensively, and isn't a player I would target. Personally, I'd even rather have Yandle than Shattenkirk. Pietrangelo is the guy you wanna target... He's literally LIGHT YEARS better than Shattenkirk in EVERY aspect of the game.