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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:03 PM ET
For 4.5 per its way too much. I think the flyers expected more from him
- Just5


Probably did expect more. That said, at this point, the market is definitely going up. Ron Hainsey is going to get more than Coburn and it's arguable if he's better.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:03 PM ET
Those options seem more realistic bc they arent going to get a number one defenseman in a trade. I just dont see it but I hope i'm wrong.
- stveshdy


Agreed, it is much more likely to draft a number #1 d-man then for a team to be able to trade for one before or during his prime, or signing him in his late mid to late 20's when he reaches UFA.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:05 PM ET
that requires patience. something the team and fanbase seems to be short on for decades
- nails


Thats part of the problem. Having patience is fine and if your in a rebuild (when trading Richards and Carter) by adding young pieces I dont see why you would go out and sign a goalie over 30+ years old. Not sure what the direction is bc the organization seems to have no patience either (not just the fans).
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:05 PM ET
Probably did expect more. That said, at this point, the market is definitely going up. Ron Hainsey is going to get more than Coburn and it's arguable if he's better.
- Jsaquella



cap was supposed to fix those kinds of things
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:05 PM ET


cap was supposed to fix those kinds of things

- nails


Only if one lives in fantasy land.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:08 PM ET
Thats part of the problem. Having patience is fine and if your in a rebuild (when trading Richards and Carter) by adding young pieces I dont see why you would go out and sign a goalie over 30+ years old. Not sure what the direction is bc the organization seems to have no patience either (not just the fans).
- stveshdy


Keeping Bob would have been better with that theme.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:09 PM ET
Well it didn't change the complexion of the game, it was likely over already, but still the save has to be made.

I'm not saying he doesn't get hung out to dry a good amount, he does. But the soft goals have increased a fair amount lately after being cut down early in the season.

I think there is something to the theory that he's been run into the ground, but that's on the GM for not having a backup.

I would play Mason a good amount the remainder of the year, not sure Laviolette will do so because he's probably coaching for his job.

- PLindbergh31



Nothing I don't disagree with in this post.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 7 @ 9:10 PM ET
When you review Homer's tenure as GM,, certainly he has swung for the fences for top tier guys- Kimmo, Pronger, Weber, and Sutter. However, almost as frequently targeted young d-men, who were going some tough growing pains and used some assets to acquire (not necessarily blockbuster assets). Guys like Coburn, Carle, Mez, and Schenn.

With that in mind, guys like Jake Gardiner, Alec Martinez, and Jamie McBain would be d-men in that mold especially if Coburn and Mez aren't moved in the offseason. Young guys with room to improve and cap hits that aren't cumbersome.

- ravishingone


Agreed. Mcbain in particular. He's in the doghouse with that coach lets grab him
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 7 @ 9:11 PM ET
Tieja MacLaughlin ‏@Tieja_Mac

Scott Laughton didn't suit up for tonight's game on account of his hit on Zach Hall. Spent the game watching with Flyers GM Holmgren + crew.

- ob18

The naughty corner....
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:12 PM ET
Only if one lives in fantasy land.
- Jsaquella

It will be interesting to see what happens this offseason.
Some of the contracts must go down, simply because of less cap room.

I still don't see how JBow and his 10% of the cap hit fits with the Blues.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:12 PM ET
It will be interesting to see what happens this offseason.
Some of the contracts must go down, simply because of less cap room.

I still don't see how JBow and his 10% of the cap hit fits with the Blues.

- nails


That definitely bears some watching
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:12 PM ET
The naughty corner....
- Giroux_Is_God


Well Barrie is now up 3 - 0 over Oshawa in the series but I'd doubt Laughton see the ice again as a member of Oshawa.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:14 PM ET
Well Barrie is now up 3 - 0 over Oshawa in the series but I'd doubt Laughton see the ice again as a member of Oshawa.
- ob18


How long did he get?
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:14 PM ET
That definitely bears some watching
- Jsaquella

doesn't he have to be their buy out?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 7 @ 9:14 PM ET
Well Barrie is now up 3 - 0 over Oshawa in the series but I'd doubt Laughton see the ice again as a member of Oshawa.
- ob18

Have we figured out (assuming a multiple game suspension) if ScottyL is gonna do the time via the A/NHL?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:14 PM ET
doesn't he have to be their buy out?
- nails


Why use a buyout on a deal that has one year left?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:14 PM ET
How long did he get?
- Jsaquella


So far just tonight but earlier this season he got 10 games for a head check so if they ever give a number expect it to at least be the same.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:15 PM ET
Have we figured out (assuming a multiple game suspension) if ScottyL is gonna do the time via the A/NHL?
- Giroux_Is_God


Have yet to get an answer.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:15 PM ET
So far just tonight but earlier this season he got 10 games for a head check so if they ever give a number expect it to at least be the same.
- ob18


I just ws wondering if I missed the news.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 7 @ 9:16 PM ET
My kids cry less than you do.
- Jsaquella

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 7 @ 9:16 PM ET
It will be interesting to see what happens this offseason.
Some of the contracts must go down, simply because of less cap room.

I still don't see how JBow and his 10% of the cap hit fits with the Blues.

- nails


I haven't seen any of jbow this year but everything ive read and heard he is playing to that contract
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:16 PM ET
That definitely bears some watching
- Jsaquella


I wonder if St. Louis is a team that can spend to the cap ceiling. J-Bo, Pietrangelo's new contract, and Shattenkirk will also be a RFA. The new CBA did very little for mid to small market teams. It cut overall % of the players' share, and that was pretty much it. The cap is just going to keep growing and growing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:16 PM ET
I wonder if St. Louis is a team that can spend to the cap ceiling. J-Bo, Pietrangelo's new contract, and Shattenkirk will also be a RFA. The new CBA did very little for mid to small market teams. It cut overall % of the players' share, and that was pretty much it. The cap is just going to keep growing and growing.
- ravishingone


They'll have a ton of cash committed to the defense, but I see a JBouw trade before a buyout
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:18 PM ET
I just ws wondering if I missed the news.
- Jsaquella


Nah, nothing yet. Probably something in the next day or so.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 7 @ 9:19 PM ET
Yes, he has. All 38 games worth. People seem to think that he's a proven commodity. Far from it.
- Jsaquella

Blaine Lacher and Jim Carey are two guys who had great cups of coffee before their milk spoiled. That can't possibly happen again.
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