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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 8 @ 2:43 PM ET
No doubt. His speed will almost certainly be slowed a bit. Or a lot.
- wolfhounds


He's a rfa this summer. Tough break for the kid
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 8 @ 2:45 PM ET
That might be on Mason, not the coach. What do I know? We will just have to wait and see with Mason on the Flyers.
- PhillySteen


Exactly. I was more clowning the fact that CBJ's goalie coach is "teh awesomest" for "fixing" Bob by pointing out that the Calder winning goaltender under his tutelage was just traded out of that franchise for pennies on the dollar.

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 8 @ 2:45 PM ET
BSchenn is more valuable than Read. Younger and with a higher ceiling and he makes losing Briere this summer more palatable.
- phillydentist


Schenn is young, but what is his ceiling do you think? Like a Richards type player?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 8 @ 2:47 PM ET
That might be on Mason, not the coach. What do I know? We will just have to wait and see with Mason on the Flyers.
- PhillySteen


His play is def mostly on him, but what do you think about the gear thing? Someone in the org goofed.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 8 @ 2:48 PM ET
Schenn is young, but what is his ceiling do you think? Like a Richards type player?
- Hextall271


He will prob never be as good defensively. But can prob bring his offensive side. I seem him as a more physical Matt Stajan
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 8 @ 2:49 PM ET
Wait a second, he's stopping the puck at an .896 clip, and you want him to be a good teammate to boot? Unrealistic expectations.

Don't criticize Bryzy-Poo, you will enrage the mob of yes men.

- PLindbergh31


Not enough colorful metaphors in this post. You are slipping and becoming soft in your old age.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Apr 8 @ 2:50 PM ET
Ok Philly guys need some opinions here!
St. Louis has never been a big spending team. I cant remember the last time, if ever they've been near the top of the spending list.
They've got to re-sign a boatload of RFA's this summer. And with J-Bow's acquisition, i think Shats can be had for the right price

What do you think could get St. Louis to trade Shatts here, WITHOUT trading Couts?
I doubt it would be enough, but i'd offer Read, Cousins, McGinn, 2014 1st for Shatts. Flyers seem extremely high of Laughton, and Cousins is really a mid tiered prospect, and can play wing. Laughton is a straight center, and St. Louis has an over capacity of those, hence Read and Cousins, who can both play wing.

- FLYERSROCK!



BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Apr 8 @ 2:52 PM ET
Schenn is young, but what is his ceiling do you think? Like a Richards type player?
- Hextall271


He'll never be more than a third line center.
-bradleyc4
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 8 @ 2:55 PM ET
Not enough colorful metaphors in this post. You are slipping and becoming soft in your old age.
- MBFlyerfan

It must be all that desk time. He should've taken the accelerated recovery program for his Achilles, a la Erik Karlsson.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 8 @ 2:56 PM ET
He will prob never be as good defensively. But can prob bring his offensive side. I seem him as a more physical Matt Stajan
- Just5


This is what I amworried about.. He's young and there is time, but if he doesn't become anyhting better than a 3rd line centre, Iwould def send him out in theright deal.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 8 @ 2:57 PM ET
Not enough colorful metaphors in this post. You are slipping and becoming soft in your old age.
- MBFlyerfan


Yep, need to add a few f bombs and a call for a buy out this summer!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 8 @ 2:58 PM ET
Yep, need to add a few f bombs and a call for a buy out this summer!
- Hextall271



Use words like disgraceful, pathetic, gutless! Come on! Get on it!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
Use words like disgraceful, pathetic, gutless! Come on! Get on it!
- MBFlyerfan


I don't want to offend anyone with my opinion that Bryz isn't the issue here and that he should not be bought out. I do tend to be too positive though hahah
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Apr 8 @ 3:07 PM ET
Schenn is young, but what is his ceiling do you think? Like a Richards type player?
- Hextall271


I don't know but there is no way I'm giving up on a 21 y/o playing top 6 F for us now over a 26 y/o.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 8 @ 3:09 PM ET
Wait a second, he's stopping the puck at an .896 clip, and you want him to be a good teammate to boot? Unrealistic expectations.

Don't criticize Bryzy-Poo, you will enrage the mob of yes men.

- PLindbergh31


You're the only yes man on this site. Do you have a check list of the following talking points?

Should I treat any criticism I disagree with as another poster laying all the blame-or credit-on one guy? Yes I should. Then I'll post a picture of a lousy 1990's band and act like I don't do the same bullpoop I rip others for.

It'd be funny if it wasn't so predictable and tiresome.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 8 @ 3:12 PM ET
Wellwood....wow....

Do we think he'll play again? Poor kid.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 8 @ 3:14 PM ET
Exactly. I was more clowning the fact that CBJ's goalie coach is "teh awesomest" for "fixing" Bob by pointing out that the Calder winning goaltender under his tutelage was just traded out of that franchise for pennies on the dollar.
- johndewar


There's blame on both sides for Mason's fall from grace. I have heard examples of the communication gap between Mason & his coaches as well as rumors that he didn't work as hard as he could have at their suggestions.

Reese feels he can work with Mason. Hopefully he can. If not its a minimal investment.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 8 @ 3:15 PM ET
Wellwood....wow....

Do we think he'll play again? Poor kid.

- Giroux_Is_God

Sounds like a bad injury. Amazed more teams aren't using the cut resistant kevlar socks
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 8 @ 3:16 PM ET
Sounds like a bad injury. Amazed more teams aren't using the cut resistant kevlar socks
- Jsaquella


i'm a beer leaguer, so what do I know, but I use them and they don't feel any different to me than other skate socks.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 8 @ 3:17 PM ET
There's blame on both sides for Mason's fall from grace. I have heard examples of the communication gap between Mason & his coaches as well as rumors that he didn't work as hard as he could have at their suggestions.

Reese feels he can work with Mason. Hopefully he can. If not its a minimal investment.

- Jsaquella


My issue is from the asset management side of things.

Why give up a future 3rd round pick just to sign the guy to a $1.5 million deal? He would have been a free agent this summer (no way he would've been tendered by CBJ) and they could have signed this deal in July.

And still had the 3rd round pick.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 8 @ 3:17 PM ET
i'm a beer leaguer, so what do I know, but I use them and they don't feel any different to me than other skate socks.
- wilsonecho91


I've never worn them, but I've felt them. The difference seems minimal
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 3:20 PM ET
My issue is from the asset management side of things.

Why give up a future 3rd round pick just to sign the guy to a $1.5 million deal? He would have been a free agent this summer (no way he would've been tendered by CBJ) and they could have signed this deal in July.

And still had the 3rd round pick.

- bradleyc4

And if we made the play-offs? Bryz would have be a teeny tiny nub in net. So small you never could have seen him...
I don't mind this transaction even if we don't make play-offs. And let's get our hands on him now so Reese has all summer to work with him.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 8 @ 3:20 PM ET
There's blame on both sides for Mason's fall from grace. I have heard examples of the communication gap between Mason & his coaches as well as rumors that he didn't work as hard as he could have at their suggestions.

Reese feels he can work with Mason. Hopefully he can. If not its a minimal investment.

- Jsaquella


Exactly.. win win all around.. I think he'll bevery good here.. just like any other working relationship, if he connects well with Reese, this could work out really well. I remember hearing about the issues with Allaire in Toronto before he was fired by the Leafs.. that was a mess, but no one ever talks about the Leafs goaltending issues.. only the Flyers have those..
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 8 @ 3:23 PM ET
My issue is from the asset management side of things.

Why give up a future 3rd round pick just to sign the guy to a $1.5 million deal? He would have been a free agent this summer (no way he would've been tendered by CBJ) and they could have signed this deal in July.

And still had the 3rd round pick.

- bradleyc4


The thing is, it's a 2015 3rd rounder.. I expect that the team feels we'll be back in the playoffs and contending by then.. so you are looking at the late round. Also, Leighton was not a serviceable option as backup.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 8 @ 3:27 PM ET
The thing is, it's a 2015 3rd rounder.. I expect that the team feels we'll be back in the playoffs and contending by then.. so you are looking at the late round. Also, Leighton was not a serviceable option as backup.
- Hextall271

Now, now that's a bit harsh. Leighton is a serviceable back-up option for a doorman. "Welcome to the Wells Fargo center - here's the back of the net. Please enjoy your stay."
Everyone has a talent!
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