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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
God these players are d bags. Put the damn Kevlar socks on morons. Be comfortable at home with your millions of dollars in contracts. Put the damn visor on too. " its a risk I'm taking". Never understand nhlpa allowing their players to be so dumb. It's an obvious safety benefit and they will get used to them just like the visors. Sorry for the rant but how pissed would you be if g was lost like karllson because of that.
- SMS4016


One wonders if the organizations could put it in contracts that the player is responsible for the insurance if they opt out of visors/socks, skate guards, etc etc.

Maybe that would change their minds if they get "socked" with the financial burden?

#pieinthesky
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m

Good news: Briere skating at in regular jersey. Bad news: He's on 4th D pairing. #Flyers

- MBFlyerfan

I wonder if he will ever play a game as a Flyer again...
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 8 @ 11:40 AM ET
Yes, he's pretty much a lock unless he has an awful camp and preseason.
- bmeltzer

This isn't a knock on Laughton ( I really like his potential) but do we really have to bring up every 18 - 20 year old prospect nowadays? Is Laughton really going to produce sooo much to flyers that sacrifices leaving him in minors to grow with minutes he can't get here like kadri had to do or like grigorinko in buffalo?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 8 @ 11:41 AM ET
I wonder if he will ever play a game as a Flyer again...
- jak521


I hope not. They need him healthy going into the offseason so they can buy him out. He should sit the rest of the way.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 8 @ 11:42 AM ET
One wonders if the organizations could put it in contracts that the player is responsible for the insurance if they opt out of visors/socks, skate guards, etc etc.

Maybe that would change their minds if they get "socked" with the financial burden?

#pieinthesky

- MBFlyerfan

GooD point.. Probaly against CBa. Although they do have weird stuff like no skiing and whatnot where contract can be voided.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 8 @ 11:43 AM ET
This isn't a knock on Laughton ( I really like his potential) but do we really have to bring up every 18 - 20 year old prospect nowadays? Is Laughton really going to produce sooo much to flyers that sacrifices leaving him in minors to grow with minutes he can't get here like kadri had to do or like grigorinko in buffalo?
- SMS4016

Actually, Grigorenko is a solid example of what not to do. Burned a year of his contract, scratched him, and sent him down after the damage was done.

EDIT: Also, as was stated, Laughton can't go to the minors due to his age.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m

Good news: Briere skating at in regular jersey. Bad news: He's on 4th D pairing. #Flyers

- MBFlyerfan

Good he's cleared now get his a$$ to the press box before he gets a cold and blows a lung out and we can't buy him out!
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Apr 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
since I know ill be leight wont even bother with the Mason resigning tweet...

very very happy he accepted 1 year at only 1.5M. Gives us options. Thank you Mason

Any word on if hes a UFA or RFA at the end of next year?
mhbst7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly
Joined: 10.21.2008

Apr 8 @ 11:45 AM ET
Heard Mason just signed a 1 yr 1.5 million dollar deal. Not bad for a back up now!
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Apr 8 @ 11:45 AM ET
I think it's kinda impossible for the flyers to make the playoffs they pretty much have to go 10-0 to have a shot
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 2m

Good news: Briere skating at in regular jersey. Bad news: He's on 4th D pairing. #Flyers

- MBFlyerfan


What's Sam talking about this is wonderful news. He's cleared and has been shelleyd. Hope for the flyers yet
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
Good he's cleared now get his a$$ to the press box before he gets a cold and blows a lung out and we can't buy him out!
- SMS4016


That's" tank" talk. Put him in and see if he can help. Guy has always been clutch for us, give him a chance. If we make it to the POs everyone will be begging to see him play.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 8 @ 11:47 AM ET
Heard Mason just signed a 1 yr 1.5 million dollar deal. Not bad for a back up now!
- mhbst7


That's great! Thought that's what he deserved surprised that's what he got!
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Apr 8 @ 11:47 AM ET
I think it's kinda impossible for the flyers to make the playoffs they pretty much have to go 10-0 to have a shot
- griouxmvp2012

sigh.
We need to go 7-3 to make it, and win BOTH games vs the Isles. I did the math several times
with our sched its very possible to go 7-3 but we need to win both games vs the Isles, and they cant even get a point. Needs to be 2 regulation W's
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
Heard Mason just signed a 1 yr 1.5 million dollar deal. Not bad for a back up now!
- mhbst7

Great news! I think Bryz is staying another year too then.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 8 @ 11:48 AM ET
Actually, Grigorenko is a solid example of what not to do. Burned a year of his contract, scratched him, and sent him down after the damage was done.
- BulliesPhan87

Agreed 100% y point is if Laughton makes team he's slotted as what? 4th line center? Pk player? That 6 to 8 minutes a night. I'd rather keep him down to work on other areas of his game. I have no doubt he could make team and contribute a little but in the long run think he needs more work. Coots a example.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 8 @ 11:49 AM ET
This isn't a knock on Laughton ( I really like his potential) but do we really have to bring up every 18 - 20 year old prospect nowadays? Is Laughton really going to produce sooo much to flyers that sacrifices leaving him in minors to grow with minutes he can't get here like kadri had to do or like grigorinko in buffalo?
- SMS4016


The thing with Laughton is that he will never be much more than a 3rd line agitator/defensive specialist in the NHL who chips in a timely goal or hit on occasion. Just my opinion of course, but that is how I see him.

As for Coots, I think sending back to juniors last year would not have done anything for his development. He is kind of a "backwards" player. By that I mean, usually its a young players' defensive game that needs work/seasoning. And that is why they don't succeed early in the NHL. Coots came here already pretty solid on the right side of the puck. His offensive game will come in time. Playing him in juniors against other kids who have no hope of stopping him would give him some false confidence maybe.

I like where he is. He had a half season in the AHL, and has been coming on as of late. Its growing pains from a 20 year old kid. His offensive game will come. Look at Joe Thornton his first few years. Shanahan, Neely, Stall.

As long as he stays defensively responsible, the other stuff will come. I have no doubt. Sending him down will be counter productive.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 8 @ 11:50 AM ET
Actually, Grigorenko is a solid example of what not to do. Burned a year of his contract, scratched him, and sent him down after the damage was done.

EDIT: Also, as was stated, Laughton can't go to the minors due to his age.

- BulliesPhan87

He's gotta be able to go back to jr's or ahl. One or the other???
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 8 @ 11:50 AM ET
Great news! I think Bryz is staying another year too then.
- coffee junkie

TBD
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Apr 8 @ 11:52 AM ET
sigh.
We need to go 7-3 to make it, and win BOTH games vs the Isles. I did the math several times
with our sched its very possible to go 7-3 but we need to win both games vs the Isles, and they cant even get a point. Needs to be 2 regulation W's

- FLYERSROCK!

Yea so we lose tomorrow and we r pretty much done
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 8 @ 11:53 AM ET
That's" tank" talk. Put him in and see if he can help. Guy has always been clutch for us, give him a chance. If we make it to the POs everyone will be begging to see him play.
- coffee junkie

Playing him would be tanking.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 8 @ 11:54 AM ET
TBD
- isaiah520

I agree, but with that lower cap hit for the backup I think it is a better chance of Bryz staying.

Edit: I agree with Timmy P (oddly) it is either Briere or Bryz being bought out this summer. I think it will be Briere since our forward depth is our strength.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 8 @ 11:54 AM ET
He's gotta be able to go back to jr's or ahl. One or the other???
- SMS4016

Juniors, yes. AHL, no. So the question is, will more time in the juniors help him, or will he be better served getting his feet wet with the pros?
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Apr 8 @ 11:56 AM ET
since I know ill be leight wont even bother with the Mason resigning tweet...

very very happy he accepted 1 year at only 1.5M. Gives us options. Thank you Mason

Any word on if hes a UFA or RFA at the end of next year?

- FLYERSROCK!


TSN says he will still be RFA when this deal expires
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Apr 8 @ 11:56 AM ET
since I know ill be leight wont even bother with the Mason resigning tweet...

very very happy he accepted 1 year at only 1.5M. Gives us options. Thank you Mason

Any word on if hes a UFA or RFA at the end of next year?

- FLYERSROCK!


I read somewhere but can't find the link that Mason will be RFA again next offseason. I hope Bill M can confirm this.
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