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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 10 @ 4:01 PM ET
if ABV is tied to his GAA, lookout.
- wilsonecho91

Bryzaster GAA Baltic Imperial Porter 8.99% abv

that will be my next recipe for sure
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 10 @ 4:02 PM ET
Bryzaster GAA Baltic Imperial Porter 8.99% abv

that will be my next recipe for sure

- Marc D

NICE
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
Bryzaster GAA Baltic Imperial Porter 8.99% abv

that will be my next recipe for sure

- Marc D


the Philadelphia Inquirer warns that drinking the Imperial Porter may cause drowsiness during team meetings.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
K, I'm sure it was more intense being there. But in the first period was your heart in your shoes? I thought they played a fairly good first period, and then they crumbled. Maybe I'm naive but I think those flashes of brilliance can be sustained. Just not this season.
And get used to NYI fans trolling, they are getting better and better...

- FlyersGrace


First period was excellent....After the gus goal i just shook my head....i thought mason played well, looked solid, but needs improvement in rebound control...they seemed to stop playing after the islanders scored. Offensive zone entry was atrocious and sustained attack was atrocious...
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
disgraceful doesnt cut it....i was there, having a whole two section of people give you the middle finger as i walked out after the third goal was bad....my buddy a devils fan who was with me said he never saw such abuse....you know its bad when islander fans are trolling
- Philly1980


They are from Long Island, which is still in New York.

I'm pretty sure the last place I ever look for civility is New York.

When New York fans behave like you describe, it's called "passion".

When Philly fans do it, we're somehow animals.

It all depends on the lazy narrative of the day.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
The problem with mason starting is the beat writers didn't have any material for the next day. Hard to blame a goalie that isn't playing. And so the Bryz falling asleep nonsense begins. I knew the find away.

The flyers lost at practice today because Bryz fell asleep. Wonderful.

- funmaster18


Im pretty 50/50 on Bryzgalov. Tried to stay that way throughout the year, and wouldnt be too upset if they gave him one more real season.

At the same time, its really turned into a distraction, and to a degree because of a lot of what has happened and been said he has helped make his own bed. More so last year, but that stuff carried over. That contract will haunt him forever because he needs to be more than average, he needs to be elite. As much as he could play better though, management has failed him big time as well. No back-up goaltender, and havign to play behind that poop show crew.

I wouldn't be against a fresh start, but they would need to either go after Hiller or Backstrom for example to not throw everything on Mason. If you can get a similar production, with less distractions I am starting to lean a little more toward moving away from the whole Bryzgalov experiment.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
Bryzaster GAA Baltic Imperial Porter 8.99% abv

that will be my next recipe for sure

- Marc D


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:05 PM ET
Im pretty 50/50 on Bryzgalov. Tried to stay that way throughout the year, and wouldnt be too upset if they gave him one more real season.

At the same time, its really turned into a distraction, and to a degree because of a lot of what has happened and been said he has helped make his own bed. More so last year, but that stuff carried over. That contract will haunt him forever because he needs to be more than average, he needs to be elite. As much as he could play better though, management has failed him big time as well. No back-up goaltender, and havign to play behind that poop show crew.

I wouldn't be against a fresh start, but they would need to either go after Hiller or Backstrom for example to not throw everything on Mason. If you can get a similar production, with less distractions I am starting to lean a little more toward moving away from the whole Bryzgalov experiment.

- flyer_nutter



What's really the distraction? Bryz? Or the media?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 10 @ 4:05 PM ET
I hope so, I certainly hope so.
He's a better back up than what we had. I can say that definitively. Will he wrestle into the top spot next season? Who knows?

- FlyersGrace


I think he actually has a higher talent ceiling then bryz...Hes quick and has a flashy glove. If he gets confident and learns to control rebounds watch out.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 10 @ 4:06 PM ET
They are from Long Island, which is still in New York.

I'm pretty sure the last place I ever look for civility is New York.

When New York fans behave like you describe, it's called "passion".

When Philly fans do it, we're somehow animals.

It all depends on the lazy narrative of the day.

- johndewar


i live up here so i know the deal....last year the coliseum was empty there were more flyers fans at the games...this year they were packed to the brim......Were obnoxious but we stick with the team through the bad..
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
What's really the distraction? Bryz? Or the media?
- funmaster18


Media.

I said during the whole Richards thing that the Flyers should honestly limit access to the team by these guys. Its like they are hoping to find batboy in Briere's basement or something.

I doubt that will happen, but Philadelphia is not the only city like this.

If the Flyers management is unwilling and probably not able to limit access why throw the C on Giroux so soon when you know media is just waiting to jump all over it? Why not silence Bryzgalov much sooner last season when it was clear the media was feeding off of it and creating havoc?

I'd much rather prefer the media guys just go rot in a hole, but its the nature of the game, and not just in Philly.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:10 PM ET
Was this posted? If not, should add more fuel to the fire:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=420380
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:12 PM ET
Media.

I said during the whole Richards thing that the Flyers should honestly limit access to the team by these guys. Its like they are hoping to find batboy in Briere's basement or something.

I doubt that will happen, but Philadelphia is not the only city like this.

If the Flyers management is unwilling and probably not able to limit access why throw the C on Giroux so soon when you know media is just waiting to jump all over it? Why not silence Bryzgalov much sooner last season when it was clear the media was feeding off of it and creating havoc?

I'd much rather prefer the media guys just go rot in a hole, but its the nature of the game, and not just in Philly.

- flyer_nutter


It's a shame they all can't be like bill.

Next Carchidi or frank open their mouths or pick up a pen, they should ask themselves, WWBMD?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
I didn't call him a bust.

That's come up a few times in this thread and I'd love to know who did actually say it. He's too young to be called a bust, but he's not experienced enough for the role he's been asked to play this year.

- johndewar



No not you. its just been a debate elsewhere as of late
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 10 @ 4:14 PM ET
Was this posted? If not, should add more fuel to the fire:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=420380

- funmaster18


Right. This really in one article isn't much. However why the hell does he even have to open his mouth? Or just not stick to the classic answers. To throw out that that this is "dark water", and "I dont care".

In the grand scheme of things this is how he makes his own bed, and it definately creates distractions. Its like Torts in NY making himself bigger than the team.

I would understand he is frustrated, and that management has failed him as well, but its not good sportsmanship. He kept it calm and cool for most of the year, and is starting to come apart again.

Edit: I would say he is not the problem, but there are many issues with this team and his play and other BS are a part of it. Agaim, I'd be cool with giving him another season.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 10 @ 4:15 PM ET
Seasons not over yet...
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Apr 10 @ 4:16 PM ET
Was this posted? If not, should add more fuel to the fire:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=420380

- funmaster18


An absolute non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 10 @ 4:17 PM ET
Seasons not over yet...
- stveshdy


exactly were still in the seth jones running/
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:18 PM ET
Seasons not over yet...
- stveshdy


Nope, 9 more games.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:19 PM ET
An absolute non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
- 77rams


That may be, but I'm not sure saying you don't care if youre a flyer next year is going to help anything.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 10 @ 4:20 PM ET
Was this posted? If not, should add more fuel to the fire:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=420380

- funmaster18


i'm getting to the end of my rope with just about everything.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 10 @ 4:20 PM ET
exactly were still in the seth jones running/
- Philly1980

Sixth place and rooting for an Avalanche winning streak.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 10 @ 4:21 PM ET
Sixth place and rooting for an Avalanche winning streak.
- mayorofangrytown

they are do for one.....
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 10 @ 4:21 PM ET
An absolute non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
- 77rams


Its not a issue to pretty normal fans.

Yet you know it will just create more BS from the media, more distractions and more questions his team-mates will now have to answer.

Bryzgalov should know this by now... Thats where my problem comes in, and this isn't the first time his actions have needed to be explained by his team. if he was playing at an all star level consistently he has room to talk.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 10 @ 4:22 PM ET
i'm getting to the end of my rope with just about everything.
- hammarby31


Haha lots of problems for sure but I hope they just fix this right for one (frank)ing time. It might take a few years but just build the thing right. This organization is becoming a laughing stock, and rightfully so.
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