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LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Apr 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
Also, that is not a guaranteed recipe for success.

Veteran leadership is indispensable.

Once again, see :

Edmonton, Oilers

New York, Islanders

- Dgrdnr



Add the Sens in there as well.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 12 @ 9:32 AM ET
there is no relationship just an observation.....
- toddkac

I believe I tried to address the line between implying and directly calling someone something. With that said, should it continue, I'd feel I had issued a warning (you know, I try to warn) and would then be justified in escalating.

Generally, I think the two of you shouldn't post about or to each other, since neither seems to be able to handle it particularly well. As evidenced by this conversation we're having right now.
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 12 @ 9:32 AM ET
Yep. You're right. He distracts from the rest of the pu$$ies we have on this team.

Screw Ott being captain. I'm voting him for President.

- Powerslave

Ott is one of the problems, we are the most(i think) penalized team. Ott contributes to that.

If this team wants to start over Ott is not one of the guys to have teach them. He is a fan favourite I understand that but if we could get a first with him then see you later.

He is the type of player that is better suited for a team that is challenging for the cup not a bottom feeder.

*Spelling officially checkd by Garth
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Apr 12 @ 9:32 AM ET
867-5309
- LamontSanford

I got it... I got it......I got it.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...steve-otts-odd-night.html


Anybody see this?

- Powerslave

It's an old faceoff trick that he learned from watching Stevie Y. Messier used to give guys wet willies. Sakic liked to pick his nose and fling it at the faceoff dot while telling the linesman, "right there, drop it right there."

Ott is the clear cut choice for captain. Class guy.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Apr 12 @ 9:34 AM ET
Someone on another blog said you were. It didn't make sense since you've become so well behaved.
- sippyd

Well thanks Sippy.
Went through a rough patch and even at my age we all still live and learn.
But thank you.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 12 @ 9:35 AM ET
Well thanks Sippy.
Went through a rough patch and even at my age we all still live and learn.
But thank you.

- BuffaloHardHat

By and large it's been good, too.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Apr 12 @ 9:36 AM ET
By and large it's been good, too.
- nfph

Appreciated.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 12 @ 9:36 AM ET
Ott is one of the problems, we are the most(i think) penalized team. Ott contributes to that.

If this team wants to start over Ott is not one of the guys to have teach them. He is a fan favourite I understand that but if we could get a first with him then see you later.

He is the type of player that is better suited for a team that is challenging for the cup not a bottom feeder.

*Spelling officially checkd by Garth

- toddkac

I'll take him for his compete level. Obviously we don't think Armia should learn to troll people before faceoffs - that's not his job. He should learn, however, that if he gives up on a play he'll be reamed for it. And I think Ott can deliver that.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 12 @ 9:38 AM ET
It's an old faceoff trick that he learned from watching Stevie Y. Messier used to give guys wet willies. Sakic liked to pick his nose and fling it at the faceoff dot while telling the linesman, "right there, drop it right there."

Ott is the clear cut choice for captain. Class guy.

- keptupl8



On a team that's this bad, there is no "clear cut" choice for captain. A player shouldn't be absolved from blame simply because he tries really hard.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 12 @ 9:39 AM ET
Ott is one of the problems, we are the most(i think) penalized team. Ott contributes to that.

If this team wants to start over Ott is not one of the guys to have teach them. He is a fan favourite I understand that but if we could get a first with him then see you later.

He is the type of player that is better suited for a team that is challenging for the cup not a bottom feeder.

*Spelling officially checkd by Garth

- toddkac



You know, the Marlies could always use another fan. TIN Connolly plays for them.

If it's a guy that hits, wins draws, scores 15-20, fights, calls out his teammates after a pathetic effort, and has heart, soul, truculance and sandpaper, then, NO, you don't want to watch Steve Ott. In fact, please DON'T.

Go watch Connolly instead.

toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 12 @ 9:43 AM ET
You know, the Marlies could always use another fan. TIN Connolly plays for them.

If it's a guy that hits, wins draws, scores 15-20, fights, calls out his teammates after a pathetic effort, and has heart, soul, truculance and sandpaper, then, NO, you don't want to watch Steve Ott. In fact, please DON'T.

Go watch Connolly instead.

- Powerslave

no need to be so arrogant.
Do I get more then two choices?

Why do so many fans here have an "everything" or "nothing" mode. CanĀ“t I watch other players too or just Connolly?


I would trade Steve Ott for that player in a heart beat.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 9:44 AM ET
On a team that's this bad, there is no "clear cut" choice for captain. A player shouldn't be absolved from blame simply because he tries really hard.
- buffalofan19

I think I'm just sick of it being a topic (so I brought it up again...). They aren't picking a captain this year, yet people are calling for Ott to be captain. There is a lot of work to do between now and next season. It doesn't make sense to pick a captain until they determine what type of team they are going to be and how deep of a scrub are they willing to partake in for the rebuild.

Besides all that, Ott brings some great leadership attributes to the table. He also pulls some antics that you don't expect from a captain. IMO, let him keep the A. Put the C on someone else, or no one for a while. Build an identity before you decide who is going to be the face of that identity.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Apr 12 @ 9:47 AM ET
It doesn't make sense to pick a captain until they determine what type of team they are going to be
- keptupl8

This
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 9:47 AM ET
This
- BuffaloHardHat

new blog
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 9:48 AM ET
Ott is one of the reasons why we aren't at the bottom of the league ATM... Therefore I blame him.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 12 @ 9:48 AM ET
I think I'm just sick of it being a topic (so I brought it up again...). They aren't picking a captain this year, yet people are calling for Ott to be captain. There is a lot of work to do between now and next season. It doesn't make sense to pick a captain until they determine what type of team they are going to be and how deep of a scrub are they willing to partake in for the rebuild.

Besides all that, Ott brings some great leadership attributes to the table. He also pulls some antics that you don't expect from a captain. IMO, let him keep the A. Put the C on someone else, or no one for a while. Build an identity before you decide who is going to be the face of that identity.

- keptupl8



I don't disagree with that plan, and I don't hate what Steve Ott brings, but I think his "leadership" accolades are overstated. Does he show some leadership qualities? Sure, but to me, a really good leader shows those qualities, and also has those qualities translate to winning games, big games. A look at Steve Ott's career in Dallas, and the latter is lacking. I said the same thing about Shane Doan as well. Does that mean he's incapable of it? Not necessarily, but he definitely hasn't shown it yet.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 9:50 AM ET
Ott is one of the reasons why we aren't at the bottom of the league ATM... Therefore I blame him.
- Smittyx36

never go ATM, everyone knows that
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 9:52 AM ET
I'll take him for his compete level. Obviously we don't think Armia should learn to troll people before faceoffs - that's not his job. He should learn, however, that if he gives up on a play he'll be reamed for it. And I think Ott can deliver that.
- nfph



I see what you did there!!

I've said it numerous times Ott as a leader in the locker room and on the bench, is a captain. I've know how he is on the bench, he was great with Grigorenko in training camp. Ott and the shenanigans that he pulls on the ice is not. He is the type of player this team needs. A 15-20 goal scorer who can win faceoffs and drive the other team crazy. Especially with such a young team we are going to have next year. If he can get the other team off their game and start chasing him around it opens up things for the rookies. Let him keep the A bit he is not C material
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 12 @ 9:57 AM ET
Ott is one of the reasons why we aren't at the bottom of the league ATM... Therefore I blame him.
- Smittyx36





That sunovab!tch is going to keep us from the #1 pick!!!
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 12 @ 10:02 AM ET
Disagree.
This team would be unwatchable if I had to listen to Kevin Sylvester do the games.
Who would do the play by play?
Paul Hamilton is not the answer either.
Both of those guys make me want to drink drano while listening to them.

- BuffaloHardHat

Duff is the best guy they have in tow. I suspect they will get someone better. Too bad we let Pete Weber get away.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
Duff is the best guy they have in tow. I suspect they will get someone better. Too bad we let Pete Weber get away.
- Pierceme69

I don't think they should try and "replace" RJ. Duff in that light is a good option - just calls the game, no theatrics.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:22 PM ET
So referees are now trolls? Wow.
- PassionBucket16

Sorry, that wasn't trolling. If it came through that way, I apologize.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:23 PM ET
I don't think they should try and "replace" RJ. Duff in that light is a good option - just calls the game, no theatrics.
- nfph

TROLL!!!!
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:30 PM ET
TROLL!!!!
- hscesq


srsly
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