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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 12 @ 11:52 AM ET
(frank) carter and richards. Seriously who the hell cares anymore. I have no problem with the return of Voracek Couturier, Cousins, Schenn, Simmonds and Grossmann (aquired with one of the picks) for frick and frack. I appreciate what they did when they were here but seriously who cares anymore
- nastyflyergirl

they had no kopitar and brown to play behind here either. does anybody ever consider that when they are on that tired harangue?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:52 AM ET
Those 5 assists were a lot of work.
- mayorofangrytown


Definitely picked up all 5 on rebounds.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 12 @ 11:52 AM ET
Wine is fine but whiskey's quicker, suicide is slow with liquor. Taking a bottle to drown your sorrows (especially in this case) will only flood away brighter tommorows my friend. But stay thirsty otherwise.
- JoeRussomanno


Gotta love an Ozzy reference!!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
Watching last night I kept thinking I really wouldn't mind Gagne back next year.
- shekkie



I actually would like to see him back at the right cap hit.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
You should care, all that young talent and nothing to show for it.
- puckhog


Do you see the oxymoron in that statement? They're young, they don't have to show for it yet. If all comes and goes and they end up not winning a cup, then yes; nothing to show for it. Until then, get a goddamn grip and wait a few years.....
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 12 @ 11:56 AM ET
Wine is fine but whiskey's quicker, suicide is slow with liquor. Taking a bottle to drown your sorrows (especially in this case) will only flood away brighter tommorows my friend. But stay thirsty otherwise.
- JoeRussomanno



mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:00 PM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/node/314411

just watched bryz, and good for him.. he just gained more likeable points with me, i have supported him all season and i hope they keep him.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Apr 12 @ 12:01 PM ET
they had no kopitar and brown to play behind here either. does anybody ever consider that when they are on that tired harangue?
- isaiah520


Yeah, Briere, JVR,Giroux, Hartnell bunch of slouches.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:02 PM ET
I can't imagine the media making this up, but I can see a scenario where a teammate sells out a guy he doesn't like.

I tend to side more with what Knuble said when he mentioned the meetings are too short for anyone to fall asleep and the whole thing was a misunderstanding.

- johndewar

Just listing the two possibilities. Either way, its ridiculous.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:03 PM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/node/314411

just watched bryz, and good for him.. he just gained more likeable points with me, i have supported him all season and i hope they keep him.

- mydoglicks

god i hate the media
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
god i hate the media
- Crimsoninja


me too, tim pinocchio just standing there flinching
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 12 @ 12:08 PM ET
Do you see the oxymoron in that statement? They're young, they don't have to show for it yet. If all comes and goes and they end up not winning a cup, then yes; nothing to show for it. Until then, get a goddamn grip and wait a few years.....
- steelydan

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 12 @ 12:11 PM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/node/314411

just watched bryz, and good for him.. he just gained more likeable points with me, i have supported him all season and i hope they keep him.

- mydoglicks

i'm glad he stood up to the nonsense as well, but he hasn't played well enuf for me. this is not the crazy 80's w/ goalies wearing almost half the padding. regardless of the quality of chances, which are not any better than ones in DAL or BUF, we can't run away from these #s which are substandard on their own, let alone in light of the contract.

there will be alternatives this off season. i don't think it's likely that LA or VAN will continue w/ their current tandems, for example.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:12 PM ET
god i hate the media
- Crimsoninja

I cant believe the Flyers havent intervened yet.

Just look at his two years here, and what the media has done to this poor guy...

This year alone with the open mocking by that wienerhead Barkann and the pathetic weasel Ike laughing at him... now a false report about him sleeping through a team meeting?

After what went down with Richie and Carter.. youd think the org would have something to say...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:12 PM ET
i'm glad he stood up to the nonsense as well, but he hasn't played well enuf for me. this is not the crazy 80's w/ goalies wearing almost half the padding. regardless of the quality of chances, which are not any better than ones in DAL or BUF, we can't run away from these #s which are substandard on their own, let alone in light of the contract.

there will be alternatives this off season. i don't think it's likely that LA or VAN will continue w/ their current tandems, for example.

- isaiah520

and you know this because you watch their games?

EDIT: so buy out Bryz and trade for a goalie?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 12 @ 12:14 PM ET
god i hate the media
- Crimsoninja

They hate each other if it's any consolation.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 12 @ 12:15 PM ET
Yeah, Briere, JVR,Giroux, Hartnell bunch of slouches.
- flyerfan28

only giroux is in that category and he was a newer part of the core. kopitar and brown were established as the lead dogs in LA and comfortable in those roles. harangue away.
nellie04
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
(frank) carter and richards. Seriously who the hell cares anymore. I have no problem with the return of Voracek Couturier, Cousins, Schenn, Simmonds and Grossmann (aquired with one of the picks) for frick and frack. I appreciate what they did when they were here but seriously who cares anymore
- nastyflyergirl

Mr.Snider cares
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:17 PM ET
i'm glad he stood up to the nonsense as well, but he hasn't played well enuf for me. this is not the crazy 80's w/ goalies wearing almost half the padding. regardless of the quality of chances, which are not any better than ones in DAL or BUF, we can't run away from these #s which are substandard on their own, let alone in light of the contract.

there will be alternatives this off season. i don't think it's likely that LA or VAN will continue w/ their current tandems, for example.

- isaiah520

yes. he's been a disappointment

but i do think since he got here he's been treated pretty unfairly in a lot of ways. i was wary about bringing him in, but always hoped he would succeed. it just seems that alot of fans/media salivate at any opportunity to rip him.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:17 PM ET
I get so frustrated with the whining. Its like all of the people who wanted JRV gone when he didn't come out of college after 1 year, then wanted him gone again when he didn't develop as fast as one would hope....are now the same people whining about JVR being traded. just makes me crazy.
- nastyflyergirl



You go girl...
I agree, if you want a youth movement that so many people have said they want...it's going to take time. Last year was a good run but winning hides the problems. when they started to lose, the holes were exposed and they still haven't been fixed.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
me too, tim pinocchio just standing there flinching
- mydoglicks


I actually thought Tim's views of the whole thing, as I read them here, was perhaps the most reasonable take on the subject. The whole thing is probably a silly misunderstanding, perhaps exaggerated for effect by a player who clearly doesn't like Bryz.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
Mr.Snider cares
- nellie04



he's been part of the problem then the solution the last couple of years...
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
well I guess they only have to give up a 4th rounder for Gagne now. I wish they would have moved Fedotenko and Gagne for picks at the deadline. but as it stands they do have their first 3 picks.
- nastyflyergirl


i like having both of them back. good vet presence. responsible defensively, and can chip in goals.
nellie04
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
Honestly, I don't care

Voracek - 40 GP 17-22-39
Carter - 41 GP 24-5-29
Richards 40 GP 10-18-28
Simmonds - 37 GP 12-13-25
Schenn - 39 GP 7-15-22
Couturier - 38 GP 3-9-12

- nastyflyergirl

you forgot Bob's stats.....u know the Vezina candidate
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 12 @ 12:19 PM ET
and you know this because you watch their games?

EDIT: so buy out Bryz and trade for a goalie?

- jak521

who knows if gillis is forced to buy out Lu? stick w/ bryz then...that's a real

it's a bad contract that he hasn't played up to....and i'll rely on Bill, who said the same thing watching DAL gms at the very least.
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