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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:45 PM ET
C'mon, those photos were blowing up all over the internet. Porn stars, co-eds, groping boobs for photos, crashing frat parties, not to mention the regular folks reporting online about their behavior.

No need to rehash it but they brought most of that on themselves and if you're a beat guy and your editor drops that in your lap and says "get me the story." you do it. Especially when it's the night before a playoff game. You ask the players the coaches and management and write the story.

You'd think after the first time they would have gotten it under control but if anything it got worse and they got angry about it.

- mayorofangrytown

I think it was extremely overblown. The media in this city isnt that way with ANY other sport. For example, my wife and I (she was my fiance then) were at a friends 25th in the city on a Saturday night. About 5 Eagles players show up around 1130 and crash a booth next to ours. Todd Heremans and Brent Celek were part of the crowd (with Celek being the most intoxicated... obviously).

They were playing a Monday night game against the Saints.. in which they lost.. and Celek actually dropped a pass right into a d-backs hands who had a 99 yard pick 6. Herremans left the game with an injury.

The bar was packed.. people were posing for pictures, the players were dancing partying it up. Celek was with his wife/gf or whatever... was dancing with my wife.. If that were a Flyer.... whew.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
How about a show that follows you around
- ob18

That'd be boring.

"Here we see Skip at work."

"Here we see his company's accounting program crawling at 14.4 modem speed - or less."

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
I think it was extremely overblown. The media in this city isnt that way with ANY other sport. For example, my wife and I (she was my fiance then) were at a friends 25th in the city on a Saturday night. About 5 Eagles players show up around 1130 and crash a booth next to ours. Todd Heremans and Brent Celek were part of the crowd (with Celek being the most intoxicated... obviously).

They were playing a Monday night game against the Saints.. in which they lost.. and Celek actually dropped a pass right into a d-backs hands who had a 99 yard pick 6. Herremans left the game with an injury.

The bar was packed.. people were posing for pictures, the players were dancing partying it up. Celek was with his wife/gf or whatever... was dancing with my wife.. If that were a Flyer.... whew.

- jak521

That's because the writers in this town KNOW football. They can break it down. They are unable to do that with the Flyers hockey. That's why it's a stepping-stone job to move to the football beat, like Les Bowen did. The ones sticking around either like the sport (Wayne Fish) or aren't very good writers (Tim Panaccio).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
I think it was extremely overblown. The media in this city isnt that way with ANY other sport. For example, my wife and I (she was my fiance then) were at a friends 25th in the city on a Saturday night. About 5 Eagles players show up around 1130 and crash a booth next to ours. Todd Heremans and Brent Celek were part of the crowd (with Celek being the most intoxicated... obviously).

They were playing a Monday night game against the Saints.. in which they lost.. and Celek actually dropped a pass right into a d-backs hands who had a 99 yard pick 6. Herremans left the game with an injury.

The bar was packed.. people were posing for pictures, the players were dancing partying it up. Celek was with his wife/gf or whatever... was dancing with my wife.. If that were a Flyer.... whew.

- jak521



You're absolutely correct! The whole Carter/Richards thing was nothing but media driven nonsense. Same as the Bryzgalov stuff is now. There is so much more to talk about. That are real issues wih this team.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
Gotta love an Ozzy reference!!

- BiggE

My whole life is an ozzy reference anymore
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
You're absolutely correct! The whole Carter/Richards thing was nothing but media driven nonsense. Same as the Bryzgalov stuff is now. There is so much more to talk about. That are real issues wih this team.
- MJL

Gonzo journalism - and it's not John Gonzalez I'm talking about.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:51 PM ET
they had no kopitar and brown to play behind here either. does anybody ever consider that when they are on that tired harangue?
- isaiah520

This. But that's not to say they aren't good players. However like NFG said, who the hell cares anymore?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:52 PM ET

- isaiah520

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
That'd be boring.

"Here we see Skip at work."

"Here we see his company's accounting program crawling at 14.4 modem speed - or less."

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

- Flyskippy


LIES, people will watch anything
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
LIES, people will watch anything
- ob18


*goes to youtube to make this a reality*
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
So it seems the opinion is Briere is the buyout guy this year, and Bryz next year? I like Bryz and am tired of the revolving door. With better team D he is not exposed and left out to dry. If Hartnell has another year like this year, I think he should be considered for buyout, guess its a matter of which player bounces back? Also I don't know if the rules are different with Hartnells contract being bought out or not, CBA talk is not my strong suit, but if you need useless Transformer knowledge Im your Huckleberry.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:58 PM ET
i'm glad he stood up to the nonsense as well, but he hasn't played well enuf for me. this is not the crazy 80's w/ goalies wearing almost half the padding. regardless of the quality of chances, which are not any better than ones in DAL or BUF, we can't run away from these #s which are substandard on their own, let alone in light of the contract.

there will be alternatives this off season. i don't think it's likely that LA or VAN will continue w/ their current tandems, for example.

- isaiah520

I prefer to go the luongo route if he becomes available. I doubt la is Dumb enuf to poopcan Quick a year removed from a cup. Bernier is an unproven. I'd rather get a proven vet like luongo. Can be inconsistent like bryzgalov but I think we can all agree his resume and ability are an upgrade. We have stolarz in the system and maybe just maybe Mason really is a diamond in the rough.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
*goes to youtube to make this a reality*
- Flyskippy


I'll stop watching after 1 episode
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
So it seems the opinion is Briere is the buyout guy this year, and Bryz next year? I like Bryz and am tired of the revolving door. With better team D he is not exposed and left out to dry. If Hartnell has another year like this year, I think he should be considered for buyout, guess its a matter of which player bounces back? Also I don't know if the rules are different with Hartnells contract being bought out or not, CBA talk is not my strong suit, but if you need useless Transformer knowledge Im your Huckleberry.
- aosplayo

What is the origin of unicorn?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 12 @ 1:00 PM ET
I would love to know what, if anything, the team said to those two players.

Patrick Kane has been all over the blogosphere with his partying and he's still in Chicago and productive.

- johndewar

I recall that the GM picked them up personally for a CHoP visit and read them the riot act in the car. That was immediately followed by the late night frat party exposure which happened in the gossip section IIRC.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:01 PM ET
The Flyers are 27th in the NHL at 5v5. Yup.. ALLL BRYZ
- jak521


I think Bryz has played pretty well, my concern is with his cap hit and length of contract. 7 more years at a 5.7 million hit is just not worth it to me.

If he was going into year 3 of say a 5 year deal with a cap hit of 6 million or so, I would keep him, but with his current deal, I think its best to buy him out.

Ideally I would buy him out after next season, but with the cap ceiling dropping by 6 million next year, I think it needs to be done this summer.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Apr 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
You're absolutely correct! The whole Carter/Richards thing was nothing but media driven nonsense. Same as the Bryzgalov stuff is now. There is so much more to talk about. That are real issues wih this team.
- MJL


That makes me feel so much better!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
I'd have no problem at all with it. If he develops as expected, the Flyers will have plenty of flexibility to either make Schenn a full-time LW or trade a center to fill a blueline spot without feeling the pain. No such thing as too much depth or talent at one position.
- bmeltzer


You wouldn't take Nurse ahead of Monahan at #6?
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Apr 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
Can somebody help me understand the benefit of waiting until next year to amnesty Bryz, if that's the route the team takes?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
What is the origin of unicorn?
- JoeRussomanno

So a horse and a narwhal are at a bar...

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
Can somebody help me understand the benefit of waiting until next year to amnesty Bryz, if that's the route the team takes?
- flyguy12

The benefit is we'd have Bryz as an option through next season.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 12 @ 1:10 PM ET
I would love to know what, if anything, the team said to those two players.

Patrick Kane has been all over the blogosphere with his partying and he's still in Chicago and productive.

- johndewar

He won a cup and scored the clinching goal. Therefore they say to him, "Goodnight" as he leaves the team facilities.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 12 @ 1:16 PM ET
Drouin

http://www.youtube.com/wa...A&feature=player_embedded

- nastyflyergirl


Don't you know he's only good b/c he plays with MacKinnon?
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Apr 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
He won a cup and scored the clinching goal. Therefore they say to him, "Goodnight" as he leaves the team facilities.
- JoeRussomanno


Thanks for the reminder!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
I think Bryz has played pretty well, my concern is with his cap hit and length of contract. 7 more years at a 5.7 million hit is just not worth it to me.

If he was going into year 3 of say a 5 year deal with a cap hit of 6 million or so, I would keep him, but with his current deal, I think its best to buy him out.

Ideally I would buy him out after next season, but with the cap ceiling dropping by 6 million next year, I think it needs to be done this summer.

- BiggE


I feel the same way, especially with the cap recapture. If he retires in the last year of the deal, it's an $8M cap hit.
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