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Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
I think I'm gonna get caught up on Spartacus or watch the last episode of Vikings for the 6th time. I'll peek in here for updates.
- JoeRussomanno

How was that Vikings show?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
Hiller or Ryan will not be a Duck next year is my guess
Why not make it Hiller? Fasth has proven he can be a starter, so why have a 4.5M backup?
Thing is, who would we give up for him?
I'd rather trade for a top pairing dman with our limited assets than a goalie...

I'm expecting a lot of moves by Homer this offseason. Wouldn't be surprised if Mezzy, Bryz, and Coburn are all gone in the offseason

- FLYERSROCK!

I'd stay away from Hiller for that reason, but would prefer him if the price is reasonable. Thats where Hartnell/Coburn come into play for me.

I dont see the Flyers being able to get a top d-man via a trade. I also am not a huge fan of going the route that takes the team down a project path on a player an organization has soured on. It works out sometimes, but usually teams sour on a player for a reason.

If it comes on a reasonable deal for Ellis or Rundblad so be it. I'd target Calgary to try and pry Giordano away. This team at the end of the day will have to fix this thing right, and do it through the draft. I strongly believe that.

Try and fix that D a little bit by bringing in some pieces. Sorround the kids with solid veteran leadership that will show them how to play the right way. Might take time,, and an extra season or two, but do it right.


FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Apr 13 @ 4:58 PM ET
Mezzy will not be gone unless you burn a buyout on him. No one is going to trade for him in his current state.
- hereticpride

Never know
I'd be calling Feaster...
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 13 @ 4:59 PM ET
i agree about myers. we will have to pay a lot, but i don't think it'll be as astronomical as a young guy trending upwards. that's a better gamble than last yrs FA lottery approach.
- isaiah520


It will be interesting to see what Buffalo does in the offseason. I don't think Myers is "off limits". If the Flyers could somehow swing a deal with one of the veteran d-men (Coburn, Grossmann, Schenn) going back with a young forward, then I think it is something they would have to consider.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 4:59 PM ET
I'd stay away from Hiller for that reason, but would prefer him if the price is reasonable. Thats where Hartnell/Coburn come into play for me.

I dont see the Flyers being able to get a top d-man via a trade. I also am not a huge fan of going the route that takes the team down a project path on a player an organization has soured on. It works out sometimes, but usually teams sour on a player for a reason.

If it comes on a reasonable deal for Ellis or Rundblad so be it. I'd target Calgary to try and pry Giordano away. This team at the end of the day will have to fix this thing right, and do it through the draft. I strongly believe that.

Try and fix that D a little bit by bringing in some pieces. Sorround the kids with solid veteran leadership that will show them how to play the right way. Might take time,, and an extra season or two, but do it right.

- flyer_nutter


There isn't a veteran that is capable of getting the young players to show them how to play the right way, if the Coach isn't going to put the structure in place and demand certain things from the entire team. The Flyers as is, already have plenty of veteran leadership.

What are you trading for Giordano? Why do you think he's available?

Ellis is just okay, and Rundblad is very raw.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
I'd stay away from Hiller for that reason, but would prefer him if the price is reasonable. Thats where Hartnell/Coburn come into play for me.

I dont see the Flyers being able to get a top d-man via a trade. I also am not a huge fan of going the route that takes the team down a project path on a player an organization has soured on. It works out sometimes, but usually teams sour on a player for a reason.

If it comes on a reasonable deal for Ellis or Rundblad so be it. I'd target Calgary to try and pry Giordano away. This team at the end of the day will have to fix this thing right, and do it through the draft. I strongly believe that.

Try and fix that D a little bit by bringing in some pieces. Sorround the kids with solid veteran leadership that will show them how to play the right way. Might take time,, and an extra season or two, but do it right.

- flyer_nutter

What about Shattenkirk in St. Louis with J Bow being on their cap now? I'm sure he could be had for now for the right price.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
Was not a part of that discussion, but that's fine. I'd rather not feed the beast anyway when it comes to that soap opera poop.

I don't care how he talks to the media. It's not part of being a goalie. The media asks stupid questions, he responds stupidly. The only people it affects is the media and the idiots who are gullible enough to get wrapped up in the drama. It's literally a non-issue and any fan of hockey should feel the same way. This isn't the WWE; a player's personality OFF the ice makes no impact on me.

If you think his skill-set can be found at a cheaper price for this off-season, I'd love to hear the options. I don't think it's out there. And I think the Flyers' made up their mind already with the 1-year deal with Mason. The writing is on the wall; next year is a audition for both goalies. Briere will be bought out this year.

- steelydan


Again, his actions which do nothing to help limit the media BS, but more so encourage it I think is an issue. When his team constantly has to be faced with it, answer questions about it... Especially on a team with many young players.

When I think his actions become somewhat of a distraction to the team, that comes into play for me as well. None of us know really, but we will see if Bryzgalov remains a Flyer. I'd be cool if he does, but the organization better be damn sure he is the answer when the buyout window passes after next season.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:02 PM ET
There isn't a veteran that is capable of getting the young players to show them how to play the right way, if the Coach isn't going to put the structure in place and demand certain things from the entire team. The Flyers as is, already have plenty of veteran leadership.

What are you trading for Giordano? Why do you think he's available?

Ellis is just okay, and Rundblad is very raw.

- MJL

Why do we think Gio is available? Maybe because Feaster is an idiot?
I think pretty much anyone on Calgary is available for the right price right now.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 13 @ 5:02 PM ET
Nice..even the boards are beating our goalies now.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 13 @ 5:02 PM ET
One goal closer to a top 3 pick...woofrigginhoo
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Apr 13 @ 5:02 PM ET
Yep. Lets rush to ship Bryz out.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Apr 13 @ 5:02 PM ET
Jonathan Drouin




flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:03 PM ET
There isn't a veteran that is capable of getting the young players to show them how to play the right way, if the Coach isn't going to put the structure in place and demand certain things from the entire team. The Flyers as is, already have plenty of veteran leadership.

What are you trading for Giordano? Why do you think he's available?

Ellis is just okay, and Rundblad is very raw.

- MJL


My two main candidates for trades this off-season would be Hartnell and Coburn. I'd lead with Hartnell for Giordano, as part of a larger package of course. Forgive me for coming up with things, instead of contributing nothing new just criticizing ideas.

Coaching is an issue with this team yes.

Edit: Mason showing why he shouldnt be strictly the #1.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:04 PM ET
Lavy told Mason to let in a weak one so we could lose
Thanks for making me look like an idiot Masn
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Apr 13 @ 5:04 PM ET


look up useless in the dictionary
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:06 PM ET
What about Shattenkirk in St. Louis with J Bow being on their cap now? I'm sure he could be had for now for the right price.
- FLYERSROCK!


I dont know it would depend on the price. He is a good player but again just falls into that second tier the Flyers love to fill their D core out with. Paired with Grossman for example I could see him being alright.

No idea what he would cost, but he would be cheaper than Yandle. Thing with St. Louis is they wont have much cap room.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 13 @ 5:06 PM ET
Lavy told Mason to let in a weak one so we could lose
Thanks for making me look like an idiot Masn

- FLYERSROCK!


Oh, sure...blame Mason.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:07 PM ET
What the (frank) happened there???
How the hell does a puck hit the skate then flip up and over the pad?
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 13 @ 5:08 PM ET
Oh, sure...blame Mason.
- tangent_man

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:08 PM ET
Lavy told Mason to let in a weak one so we could lose
Thanks for making me look like an idiot Masn

- FLYERSROCK!


Nobody here is saying that Mason should be the penciled in starter.

Even with how bad Columbus was, they soured on him for a reason.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Apr 13 @ 5:08 PM ET
Oh, sure...blame Mason.
- tangent_man


Yep
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 13 @ 5:09 PM ET
Nobody here is saying that Mason should be the penciled in starter.

Even with how bad Columbus was, they soured on him for a reason.

- flyer_nutter

Bob with 30 saves last night and 1 goal allowed
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Apr 13 @ 5:09 PM ET
nice shot choice Danny Briere
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Apr 13 @ 5:09 PM ET
Nobody here is saying that Mason should be the penciled in starter.

Even with how bad Columbus was, they soured on him for a reason.

- flyer_nutter


because they got themselves a kickass young goalie form some gm stupid enough.....
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 13 @ 5:10 PM ET
What the (frank) happened there???
How the hell does a puck hit the skate then flip up and over the pad?

- FLYERSROCK!

WB!
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