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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM ET
Doesn't matter it's a lottery system, so get that out of your head.
- ob18


If the Flyers have a choice between Monahan and Nichushkin and taking the signability factor out of it, who ya got?
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM ET
Doesn't matter it's a lottery system, so get that out of your head.
- ob18


If the Flyers have a choice between Monahan and Nichushkin and taking the signability factor out of it, who ya got?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:05 PM ET
The Flyers tried that right handed defenseman bullpoop this year and they missed the playoffs...I'd say we're finished doing that
- Jsaquella


Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Apr 13 @ 10:06 PM ET
Is he NHL ready?
- stveshdy


Probably. But he's going to have several years of ups and downs before he might -- or might not -- start to emerge as a franchise defenseman. I'd prefer to see him brought along slowly.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 13 @ 10:06 PM ET
Is he NHL ready?
- stveshdy


Yessir
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 13 @ 10:09 PM ET
http://www.reddit.com/r/F...offered_a_contract_to_21/
- isaiah520

thank you sir
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:10 PM ET
Aka Seth jones. He will make all our worries go away
- Just5


No he won't and there are other really good players why you settle on just?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:11 PM ET
Probably. But he's going to have several years of ups and downs before he might -- or might not -- start to emerge as a franchise defenseman. I'd prefer to see him brought along slowly.
- bmeltzer


At the NHL level or starting in the AHL and working his way up?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Apr 13 @ 10:11 PM ET
If the Flyers have a choice between Monahan and Nichushkin and taking the signability factor out of it, who ya got?
- ravishingone


Monahan is the safer pick (even apart from signability), Nichushkin has the higher upside. I'd personally go with Monahan because I think he's going to be a fine NHL player and also NHL-ready sooner.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:12 PM ET
Probably. But he's going to have several years of ups and downs before he might -- or might not -- start to emerge as a franchise defenseman. I'd prefer to see him brought along slowly.
- bmeltzer


From watching him I'd say he needs to add some muscle/weight & work on his offensive zone exit at least.

I'd say he could really benefit from another year in Portland. But we know that likely won't happen.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM ET
The Islanders outplayed the Rags most of the game but lost in OT.
Captain Shoulder Pads saved their bacon again.

- Marc D


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:13 PM ET
Monahan is the safer pick (even apart from signability), Nichushkin has the higher upside. I'd personally go with Monahan because I think he's going to be a fine NHL player and also NHL-ready sooner.
- bmeltzer


When I saw Monahan in Ottawa last year, I had no idea who he was but was told back then to keep an eye on him that he'll be a top 10 pick. I have and pretty impressed with his overall game. Even with his 10 game suspension this year.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Apr 13 @ 10:15 PM ET
At the NHL level or starting in the AHL and working his way up?
- stveshdy


I'd follow the same model that St. Louis used for Pietrangelo.... let him see a few NHL games as a teenager but return him to junior hockey before he burned a year off his ELC, and then at age 20 have him turn pro.

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:16 PM ET
Monahan is the safer pick (even apart from signability), Nichushkin has the higher upside. I'd personally go with Monahan because I think he's going to be a fine NHL player and also NHL-ready sooner.
- bmeltzer


Is it safe to assume you have Monahan still in your top 4 prospects?
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Apr 13 @ 10:17 PM ET
Is it safe to assume you have Monahan still in your top 4 prospects?
- ravishingone


Top 5. My top four are MacKinnon, Jones, Drouin and Barkov.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:18 PM ET
I'd follow the same model that St. Louis used for Pietrangelo.... let him see a few NHL games as a teenager but return him to junior hockey before he burned a year off his ELC, and then at age 20 have him turn pro.
- bmeltzer


You would think whoever drafts him will most likely need him to step in and play. With the cap going down and the UFA market looking thin on defenseman he may be a better option.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM ET
Top 5. My top four are MacKinnon, Jones, Drouin and Barkov.
- bmeltzer


I like this top 5.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Apr 13 @ 10:20 PM ET
You would think whoever drafts him will most likely need him to step in and play. With the cap going down and the UFA market looking thin on defenseman he may be a better option.
- stveshdy


Probably. But his best shot at developing into a franchise D is to be brought along slowly, IMO.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:25 PM ET
Probably. But his best shot at developing into a franchise D is to be brought along slowly, IMO.
- bmeltzer


You are probably right. Its not very often a teenager comes into the NHL and plays at a high level as a defenseman. It would be better to bring him along slowly but the team that drafts him will have to make that call.

Lets say the Flyers drafted him do you think they would let him stick it out all season with the big club?
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:33 PM ET
Probably. But his best shot at developing into a franchise D is to be brought along slowly, IMO.
- bmeltzer

Thoughts on Akeson's chance of playing with the Flyers next season?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:39 PM ET
Finally watched CBC's hotstove..............Interesting to see the Flyers are pushing the hardest to sign Hartzell according to Elliotte Friedman
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:43 PM ET
Finally watched CBC's hotstove..............Interesting to see the Flyers are pushing the hardest to sign Hartzell according to Elliotte Friedman
- ob18

They're going with the "sign as many as possible and hope one turns out great".


And if that's the case i'd love for them to go after Sunshine who once again dominated the SEL this year.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:46 PM ET
They're going with the "sign as many as possible and hope one turns out great".


And if that's the case i'd love for them to go after Sunshine who once again dominated the SEL this year.

- Yosimar89


That's no different then drafting in a sense.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:49 PM ET
That's no different the drafting in a sense.
- ob18

True, true.

Laughton scored shorty today, Akeson with 2 G's and Alt +2 for the phantoms
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:50 PM ET
True, true.

Laughton scored shorty today, Akeson with 2 G's and Alt +2 for the phantoms

- Yosimar89


If you got to see him before his OHL playoff suspension he was a bulldog on the PK, he'll be awesome here just needed to feel comfortable.

Perhaps not knowing if he was staying beyond 5 games may have weighed on him a bit, cuz when he went back to Oshawa we went to work.
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