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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 15 @ 3:21 PM ET
Interrupt hockey talk for this tragedy

http://www.wcvb.com/news/...wz/-/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

thoughts go out to the victims

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 15 @ 3:22 PM ET
The cap is likely to go up after the 13-14 season so his hit as a percentage of the cap will go down. If the team in front of him improves he will be a bargain.
- Scoob


He will never be a bargain. That kind of talk is delusional.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 15 @ 3:22 PM ET
There are bombs going off in Boston near the finish line of the Boston Marathon
- mayorofangrytown

http://sportsillustrated....xplosions.0075/index.html
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 3:23 PM ET
Why is everyone hellbent on him retiring before this deal is up? There have been several goalies playing into their 40's in recent years.
- JoeRussomanno


It's the fear that he will retire, not assuredness he will retire.

Also, the Boston Marathon bombing is insane.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 15 @ 3:26 PM ET
OMG Boston!
How terrible, I'm sick to my stomach watching this. I hope this was a horrible accidentand not some kind of attack.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 3:27 PM ET
It's the fear that he will retire, not assuredness he will retire.

Also, the Boston Marathon bombing is insane.

- jmatchett383

Heh I simultaneously got a text about that as I'm reading this. Thoughts and prayers to the victims.

Unless he suffers some weird injury I'm fully confident he would play out the contract.
Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.28.2011

Apr 15 @ 3:31 PM ET
Let's go FLYERS. Giroux is going to have a big game. Man just do what the Leafs do and outhit them and scare them away with our toughness. Against the Leafs, Philly showed they can be just as tough. Subban doesn't play defense. He rushes to score a goal which leads to plenty of odd man rushes.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 3:34 PM ET
He will never be a bargain. That kind of talk is delusional.
- Feanor

How bout if the cap hits like 85 million?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 15 @ 3:37 PM ET
Dear Lord, news sources reporting at least 3 dead in Boston and reports of another bomb found at a hotel. I'm getting a sick feeling that this was no accident, I truly hope I'm wrong.

Very hard to care about hockey right now, my thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
OMG Boston!
How terrible, I'm sick to my stomach watching this. I hope this was a horrible accidentand not some kind of attack.

- BiggE

Initial reports were that it may have been a gas main but it was a planted bomb on the sidewalk.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 3:40 PM ET
not intimating, clearly ready for a change. he went south after a great start. lost patience and made radical, sometimes knee jerk moves that devolved into the cluster(frank) of this yr.
- isaiah520



The most radical moves that he made, were the trades of Carter and Richards. Did you not approve of those deals? What are the knee jerk moves that you're referring to?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 3:42 PM ET
The most radical moves that he made, were the trades of Carter and Richards. Did you not approve of those deals? What are the knee jerk moves that you're referring to?
- MJL

bryz and bob
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 15 @ 3:56 PM ET
I mentioned this a few weeks ago, but it was part of post and didn't get much response. But go back through all of the transactions that Homer has made as GM, and do a post-mortem. I also kind of considered my general thoughts at the time.

What moves did he make that we're really good short and long term? Which ones did he "win"?

1. Coburn/Zhitnik trade
2. Kimmo/Hartsy trade/signing
3. Carter/Richards trades
4. Trade for Mesz. Even though he's injured so much, more than worth 2nd round pick.
5. Trade for Grossmann (gave up a bit though)
6. Drafting of Coots (tho Dougie probably would have been a better pick),
7. Signing of Jagr and Talbot
8. Trade of Schenn for JVR (long term I still think JVR outperforms Schenn, but Schenn has been a rock this year so let's put it in the win column)
9. Ville Leino trade from Detroit
10. Matt Read signing as free agent


I personally am not thrilled with last draft and balance of 2011 as we didn't get any dman, but really too early to say on Laughton, Cousins, and Ghost. So some may add to this list - I will wait.

Stolarz and Leier were part of Bob trade - to me a "loss" as I'd rather have Bob. Stolarz is having a nice playoffs tho, so maybe down the road this changes.

Also, I hated the Pronger trade then and now. So again, others may put it on the list, but I wouldn't.

But really, I'm counting about 10 "good" moves in 7 years.

Am I missing something?

Is this good enough?

- TheGreat28


I don't feel as if the Zhitnik trade worked in our favour. Coburn has done nothing to impress. We got rid of a veteran presence for a top 4 defenceman. It was still a good deal don't get me wrong but i think a steal is quite excessive
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:03 PM ET
I don't feel as if the Zhitnik trade worked in our favour. Coburn has done nothing to impress. We got rid of a veteran presence for a top 4 defenceman. It was still a good deal don't get me wrong but i think a steal is quite excessive
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



The Flyers gave up a player who was pretty much at the end of the line, and got a top defensive prospect, who besides his struggles this Season, has been a good player for the Flyers. It was absolutely a steal.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 4:03 PM ET
I don't feel as if the Zhitnik trade worked in our favour. Coburn has done nothing to impress. We got rid of a veteran presence for a top 4 defenceman. It was still a good deal don't get me wrong but i think a steal is quite excessive
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


So it was a good deal, but it didn't work out in our favor? We traded a player who had another 83 games in his career for a player who had a few monster playoff years, most notably the 09/10 run. Coburn's had a bad year, but there is no possible way to paint that trade as not working out int he Flyers' favor.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 15 @ 4:04 PM ET
I don't feel as if the Zhitnik trade worked in our favour. Coburn has done nothing to impress. We got rid of a veteran presence for a top 4 defenceman. It was still a good deal don't get me wrong but i think a steal is quite excessive
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



wow I think that was easily a steal. had Coburn blossomed into the player that made him the #8 pick? no. but outside of this year where he has struggled, he has done a very good job. and Zhitnik is long gone.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 15 @ 4:09 PM ET
wow I think that was easily a steal. had Coburn blossomed into the player that made him the #8 pick? no. but outside of this year where he has struggled, he has done a very good job. and Zhitnik is long gone.
- nastyflyergirl


Also: Braydon Coburn is only 28 years old. It's not like he's some grey beard. He's been good and could get better, IMO. This was an off year for him, IMO, and not representative of his talents.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
OMG Boston!
How terrible, I'm sick to my stomach watching this. I hope this was a horrible accidentand not some kind of attack.

- BiggE


Seriously (frank)ed up.

I hope they find who did it and cover them in fire ants.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:25 PM ET
Newsreporting 2 more devices found and being dismantled in Boston. This madness needs to stop!!
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 15 @ 4:27 PM ET
[quote=Marc D]

Couturier is a incredible player with immense potential. A bad season offensively, unlucky at times and facing top NHL talent. He’s playing with the worst possible line mates on a consistent basis, he routinely goes out against the opposition’s best players, he starts in his own zone more than nearly everyone in the entire NHL, he’s gotten horrible shooting luck (both offensively and defensively) and with all of that considered he still finds a way to get more pucks at the other net than at his own. His luck will turn around.


http://www.broadstreethoc...2/the-couturier-conundrum
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 15 @ 4:31 PM ET
another explosion at JFK library in Dorchester?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:31 PM ET
Couturier is a incredible player with immense potential. A bad season offensively, unlucky at times and facing top NHL talent. He’s playing with the worst possible line mates on a consistent basis, he routinely goes out against the opposition’s best players, he starts in his own zone more than nearly everyone in the entire NHL, he’s gotten horrible shooting luck (both offensively and defensively) and with all of that considered he still finds a way to get more pucks at the other net than at his own. His luck will turn around.


http://www.broadstreethoc...2/the-couturier-conundrum

- Chris48

I see what they are saying.
Do you think that Couturier has been misused by the Flyers coaches this year?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:39 PM ET
Newsreporting 2 more devices found and being dismantled in Boston. This madness needs to stop!!
- BiggE

not until the middle east is gone
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 15 @ 4:41 PM ET
God this world is just full of sickos.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:41 PM ET
another explosion at JFK library in Dorchester?
- isaiah520


Fire in mechanical room, not an explosion, and does not appear to be related to the bombs, at least per this account:

http://www.dotnews.com/20...t-related-marathon-attack
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