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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 16 @ 11:07 PM ET
Ok. Id love to see the independently peer reviewed studies that show its detrimental effects on brain development.

Yeah water can shut down kidneys...if you drink enougb to sate the thirst of a small army. Anything is harmful in excess. Ridiculous argument.

You dont inhale char. You eat it. Read up on it. Be my guest. Its as bad for you as tobacco smoke.

Let me ask you this...do you enjoy having a drink or two?

- sanfordnson

I love me a drink or two. Then again, you didn't ask me.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:07 PM ET
Show me one case or study that links smoking pot to increase the likelihood of getting cancer.
- robin_steele264

Ok I am gonna use some big words here robin, so get out your medical dictionary if you need, mine is in my hand. The inhalation of smoke is carcinogenic. The cells that line your airways are PSCCE or Pseudostratified ciliated columnar epithelial cells. Over time, the constant inhalation causes a change in cell type or metaplasia, the PSCCE cells change into simple squamous cells, hence why people develop smokers coughs, and are sick more often, no lil cilia to sweep debris back out of the airways. After metaplasia, the cells can become Neoplastic, or neoplasia occurs, new cell growth, this is what leads to cancer. Make sense
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
Ok. Id love to see the independently peer reviewed studies that show its detrimental effects on brain development.

Yeah water can shut down kidneys...if you drink enougb to sate the thirst of a small army. Anything is harmful in excess. Ridiculous argument.

You dont inhale char. You eat it. Read up on it. Be my guest. Its as bad for you as tobacco smoke.

Let me ask you this...do you enjoy having a drink or two?

- sanfordnson



If he's consistent with his logic he's for prohibition on alcohol and tobacco

abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
Deflecting from the fact you just want it legalized to get yourself high, by using all of these other arguments is clever but transparent. There is much that is harmful about it. There are risks to everything a person takes, hell even water can shut a persons kidneys down. Not to mention the harmful effects it has on the development of a persons brain, who starts smoking it before their brains are fully developed. Not sure how much char you think you are inhaling bbqing but it pails in comparison to what is inhaled smoking it, weak argument with that one.
- ruttager17

I used to smoke a lot, and now only a few times a year. The benefits far outweigh the health concerns. Most of the anti marijuana reports are propaganda written for the support of the war on drugs. Yes of course there are health concerns, but compared to tobacco, alcohol, prescription drugs, hell even preservatives they are minimal and infrequent.
If it were legalized it would be controlled just like cigarettes and booze. It's not like people would be running around getting high all day everyday just cause they can.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
Ok I am gonna use some big words here robin, so get out your medical dictionary if you need, mine is in my hand. The inhalation of smoke is carcinogenic. The cells that line your airways are PSCCE or Pseudostratified ciliated columnar epithelial cells. Over time, the constant inhalation causes a change in cell type or metaplasia, the PSCCE cells change into simple squamous cells, hence why people develop smokers coughs, and are sick more often, no lil cilia to sweep debris back out of the airways. After metaplasia, the cells can become Neoplastic, or neoplasia occurs, new cell growth, this is what leads to cancer. Make sense
- ruttager17


Yeah, makes sense to me.So it's the same as cigarettes? Not so much the herb itself but the inhalation of smoke?
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
Maybe, but Spector didn't hint at that at all.
- Jeropotato

Im using Logic on what he was saying when mentioning the cap next year...
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
love it. More jobs for me out their as well with less competition.
- ruttager17

If it makes you feel better to think so.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:10 PM ET
Ok I am gonna use some big words here robin, so get out your medical dictionary if you need, mine is in my hand. The inhalation of smoke is carcinogenic. The cells that line your airways are PSCCE or Pseudostratified ciliated columnar epithelial cells. Over time, the constant inhalation causes a change in cell type or metaplasia, the PSCCE cells change into simple squamous cells, hence why people develop smokers coughs, and are sick more often, no lil cilia to sweep debris back out of the airways. After metaplasia, the cells can become Neoplastic, or neoplasia occurs, new cell growth, this is what leads to cancer. Make sense
- ruttager17



Naw, I don't buy it.

Show me some peer reviewed studies that prove your point.

You can talk down to me and act like a knob if it makes you feel smart, but you aren't proving much.

Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
Im using Logic on what he was saying when mentioning the cap next year...
- AlEx_OiL

Logic? How about math? We dont have a cap issue next year or the year after that. Horc is just sitting on Yak's money for now.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
Ok I am gonna use some big words here robin, so get out your medical dictionary if you need, mine is in my hand. The inhalation of smoke is carcinogenic. The cells that line your airways are PSCCE or Pseudostratified ciliated columnar epithelial cells. Over time, the constant inhalation causes a change in cell type or metaplasia, the PSCCE cells change into simple squamous cells, hence why people develop smokers coughs, and are sick more often, no lil cilia to sweep debris back out of the airways. After metaplasia, the cells can become Neoplastic, or neoplasia occurs, new cell growth, this is what leads to cancer. Make sense
- ruttager17

I take it you didnt notice me speak of vaporization like 10 posts ago or mention also in that span that inhaling smoke from anything burning is bad for you.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:12 PM ET
well it looks like the Oilers are trying hard to catch your flames and take that number one pick away from your Flames
- AlEx_OiL

Is that new? The Oilers take Seth Jones! Shocking!
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:13 PM ET
I love me a drink or two. Then again, you didn't ask me.
- Jeropotato

Consumed in moderation (key word there) is fine.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:13 PM ET
Logic? How about math? We dont have a cap issue next year or the year after that. Horc is just sitting on Yak's money for now.
- Jeropotato

no but if MacT plan is to offer big money for a UFA he needs Horcoff and even Hemsky money.
all mighty oil
Joined: 11.02.2006

Apr 16 @ 11:14 PM ET
Ok I am gonna use some big words here robin, so get out your medical dictionary if you need, mine is in my hand. The inhalation of smoke is carcinogenic. The cells that line your airways are PSCCE or Pseudostratified ciliated columnar epithelial cells. Over time, the constant inhalation causes a change in cell type or metaplasia, the PSCCE cells change into simple squamous cells, hence why people develop smokers coughs, and are sick more often, no lil cilia to sweep debris back out of the airways. After metaplasia, the cells can become Neoplastic, or neoplasia occurs, new cell growth, this is what leads to cancer. Make sense
- ruttager17

also makes your teeth yellow
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:14 PM ET
Ok. Id love to see the independently peer reviewed studies that show its detrimental effects on brain development.

Yeah water can shut down kidneys...if you drink enougb to sate the thirst of a small army. Anything is harmful in excess. Ridiculous argument.

You dont inhale char. You eat it. Read up on it. Be my guest. Its as bad for you as tobacco smoke.

Let me ask you this...do you enjoy having a drink or two?

- sanfordnson

Study in an australian medical journal I read while doing a research paper earlier this semester showed that those who started smoking marijuana at an age younger than 18, and those at an older age 25 i believe it was, showed that the older group had no change in their IQ after something like 15 years and those that started under 18 had their IQ tested and showed to be losing points year after year by the time they were I believe in their 30's

Also the water point is as ridiculous as your eating steak point. you have to eat enough char to feed a small army before you will risk it to cause cancer.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:14 PM ET
Is that new? The Oilers take Seth Jones! Shocking!
- whipper334

is okay you guys will get your shot next season
ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Stolen Colon, AB
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:14 PM ET
Ok. Id love to see the independently peer reviewed studies that show its detrimental effects on brain development.

Yeah water can shut down kidneys...if you drink enougb to sate the thirst of a small army. Anything is harmful in excess. Ridiculous argument.

You dont inhale char. You eat it. Read up on it. Be my guest. Its as bad for you as tobacco smoke.

Let me ask you this...do you enjoy having a drink or two?

- sanfordnson

There is some studies showing marijuana as being detrimental to a developing brain, same as alcohol and carbon monoxide. If legalized marijuana would probably be subject to an age limit, like cigarettes and alcohol. Usually the human brain finishes its development halfway through puberty, so the 19 year old limit should be good. Unfortunately just like cigarettes and alcohol, marijuana will be used by younger children but the effects will be similar to underage drinking minus the puking, fighting and crying.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:16 PM ET
also makes your teeth yellow
- all mighty oil

abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:17 PM ET
Yeah, makes sense to me.So it's the same as cigarettes? Not so much the herb itself but the inhalation of smoke?
- Jeropotato

There have also been studies that showed that although marijuana smoke can damage the lungs it also prevents the cells from becoming malignant.
Not to mention the American Assn. for cancer research has found that it slows tumor growth in lungs, brain and breasts considerably.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:17 PM ET
Study in an australian medical journal I read while doing a research paper earlier this semester showed that those who started smoking marijuana at an age younger than 18, and those at an older age 25 i believe it was, showed that the older group had no change in their IQ after something like 15 years and those that started under 18 had their IQ tested and showed to be losing points year after year by the time they were I believe in their 30's

Also the water point is as ridiculous as your eating steak point. you have to eat enough char to feed a small army before you will risk it to cause cancer.

- ruttager17



And you in favor of making alcohol and tobacco illegal?

AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:18 PM ET
Study in an australian medical journal I read while doing a research paper earlier this semester showed that those who started smoking marijuana at an age younger than 18, and those at an older age 25 i believe it was, showed that the older group had no change in their IQ after something like 15 years and those that started under 18 had their IQ tested and showed to be losing points year after year by the time they were I believe in their 30's

Also the water point is as ridiculous as your eating steak point. you have to eat enough char to feed a small army before you will risk it to cause cancer.

- ruttager17

Guys worried less and live life more....water,steak,marihuana,alcohol etc wont kill you stress will.
all mighty oil
Joined: 11.02.2006

Apr 16 @ 11:19 PM ET
There have also been studies that showed that although marijuana smoke can damage the lungs it also prevents the cells from becoming malignant.
Not to mention the American Assn. for cancer research has found that it slows tumor growth in lungs, brain and breasts considerably.

- abware

my own studies shows that it leads to doritos and carbonated bevarages
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:20 PM ET
Study in an australian medical journal I read while doing a research paper earlier this semester showed that those who started smoking marijuana at an age younger than 18, and those at an older age 25 i believe it was, showed that the older group had no change in their IQ after something like 15 years and those that started under 18 had their IQ tested and showed to be losing points year after year by the time they were I believe in their 30's

Also the water point is as ridiculous as your eating steak point. you have to eat enough char to feed a small army before you will risk it to cause cancer.

- ruttager17

Same thing with pot. Small amounts will do NO harm.
ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Stolen Colon, AB
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:20 PM ET
There have also been studies that showed that although marijuana smoke can damage the lungs it also prevents the cells from becoming malignant.
Not to mention the American Assn. for cancer research has found that it slows tumor growth in lungs, brain and breasts considerably.

- abware

Eating it helps stomach, intestines and rectum!
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:20 PM ET
Can this team just win for once? FOR (frank) SAKES
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