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AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 16 @ 4:00 PM ET
We will make sure you dirty little beaners go first
- ShooterMcGavin

not matter who go first or last we all are gone at the end
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Apr 16 @ 4:10 PM ET
not matter who go first or last we all are gone at the end
- AlEx_OiL


laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Apr 16 @ 4:11 PM ET
Katz(Jewish) Yakupov(Islamic) and Mac T(Christian) all walked into a bar.....





.... just to find out they have more in common with each than with the secular drunks in the bar.

- all mighty oil



gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Apr 16 @ 4:14 PM ET
Here's the point of your blog: page views. Just like it always is.
- trolleytracks

Boo Urns
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 16 @ 4:21 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: Hate and Hockey Don't Go Together
- Maxbone




Ancient Alienz!!!!!!












Seriously though, good blog Clouts.
ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Stolen Colon, AB
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 16 @ 4:40 PM ET

- Reveen

Eersel
Edmonton Oilers
Location: City of Failures, AB
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 16 @ 4:44 PM ET
No gametime blog???

Anyways, from what Eks has posted for the season wrap up...

If we win 5 of 7 we are in or tied for 8th at least. Now with MacT in the big office, lets hope their is a little more motivation for guys to work hard and keep their jobs in Edmonton.

It's not impossible. But this will be the hardest work the team has to do all year.

Could you imagine squeeking the playoffs out in the last game of the season. This city would go nuts.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 16 @ 4:46 PM ET
No gametime blog???

Anyways, from what Eks has posted for the season wrap up...

If we win 5 of 7 we are in or tied for 8th at least. Now with MacT in the big office, lets hope their is a little more motivation for guys to work hard and keep their jobs in Edmonton.

It's not impossible. But this will be the hardest work the team has to do all year.

Could you imagine squeeking the playoffs out in the last game of the season. This city would go nuts.

- Eersel

Sorry bro, but this is dependent upon the bottom couple seeds losing out while we win out, I like your optimism, but not gonna happen, that 5 losses in a row (frank)ed them. Would like to see them go out fighting though
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Apr 16 @ 4:49 PM ET
" If I'm a hockey player, I'd be more concerned about Subban running me over than him rubbing off on me."

If I'm Cloutier I'd be more concerned about Subban rubbing one off on me."

couldn't resist and I'm not usually the lowbrow humor type, but it was set up so perfect. overall good blog hate is so disgustingly present in the sport... want to read some disgusting stuff then read the comments posted on the bleacher report site about the You can Play article. hard to believe people can hate so much... must be exuasting
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 16 @ 4:55 PM ET
" If I'm a hockey player, I'd be more concerned about Subban running me over than him rubbing off on me."

If I'm Cloutier I'd be more concerned about Subban rubbing one off on me."

couldn't resist and I'm not usually the lowbrow humor type, but it was set up so perfect. overall good blog hate is so disgustingly present in the sport... want to read some disgusting stuff then read the comments posted on the bleacher report site about the You can Play article. hard to believe people can hate so much... must be exuasting

- ChrisMS

Exhausting is reading all the crap you post here Chris Monkey Scrotum
Sorry couldn't resist the same low brow humor as you
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Apr 16 @ 5:00 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: Hate and Hockey Don't Go Together
- Maxbone


While I agree with much of what you've said here Richard and think it is logical to a degree and somewhat insightful, I do think there are issues with the Muslim community that even peaceful Muslims must despise at times.

The fact is, you actually have a pretty large number of fractious caldrons willing to perform extremely violent acts for political, economical and religious purpose.

There are vast parts of the world where leagues like the Mutaween, the Saudi religious police will drag you away to political or religious purgatory for saying, wearing or sleeping with the wrong thing.
Yet, all the while we have to be acutely politically correct about our comments regarding such ethos. This is not to say I defend the thoughtless and idiotic twitter comments to which you may be referring but I will add this:

Mark Steyn, a brilliant and hilarious cultural and political writer made a joke / comment quoting a fundamentalist Norwegian imam years ago in a story for MacLeans.
There was a complaint made to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal and voila, Mr. Steyn had to fight tooth and nail to clear his name with this joke of a kangaroo court. Because of such things as Section 13 of this Human Rights Code, it's being scaled back and repealed. Hopefully.

Trust me, whole swaths of people hear what you're saying in regard to whole communities being besmirched because of the actions of a few but it's also gone too far.

We now have the "feeling police" as a result. Free speech starts to slip - identity group politics becomes more important then equality before the law.

For fukk sakes, years back, Ezra Levant got put up before this same tribunal for re-printing that Danish cartoon. Seriously? You spoke of freedom Richard.
Careful, 'cause if I'm being an alarmist for a moment, this poop is getting Orwellian.

I'm not going to attempt to make this about hockey.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:03 PM ET
Of course it's all speculation, or do you think people who make documentaries that look at how things would change in the future are time travellers and actually are writing from experience? China has said for decades that they believe Taiwan isn't its own country and would bring it back under Chinese rule if they were given the chance? You don't think that Israel would be destroyed by other countries in the region? I also believe Japan and South Korea would start producing nuclear weapons if the US pulled out of that region which would set off a SEA arms race, and with North Korea being (frank)ing crazy results wouldn't be great.

Edit

They also never said Chinas first attack would be nuclear, but China is bound to start expanding or creating 'zones of influence' and as traditional enemies Japan would be looked at. Remember Japan invaded China in 1931, it could actually be looked at as when WW2 began in the Pacific Theater. Why is China building up their military the way that they are?

- ShooterMcGavin


Because they feel threatened as America is in the process of encircling them
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Apr 16 @ 5:06 PM ET
Exhausting is reading all the crap you post here Chris Monkey Scrotum
Sorry couldn't resist the same low brow humor as you

- ruttager17


Sorry my man. my line was pure gold! and I rarely post crap... just a different viewpoint. and I'm rarely wrong. I know I welcome opposite viewpoints so long as there done in a spirit of debate and not a spirit of antagonism( like a troll) .
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Apr 16 @ 5:06 PM ET
Sorry bro, but this is dependent upon the bottom couple seeds losing out while we win out, I like your optimism, but not gonna happen, that 5 losses in a row (frank)ed them. Would like to see them go out fighting though
- ruttager17


Ya, just when you look at the optics:

We win five in a row to get into a playoff spot. Then proceed to lose five in a row after holding that position - when the playoff drive really begins and games matter most.

Well that's a sad problem.
ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Stolen Colon, AB
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:09 PM ET
Because they feel threatened as America is in the process of encircling them
- Whiskey-Tango

the US has cut their presence in SEA in the last decade.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:10 PM ET
Sorry my man. my line was pure gold! and I rarely post crap... just a different viewpoint. and I'm rarely wrong. I know I welcome opposite viewpoints so long as there done in a spirit of debate and not a spirit of antagonism( like a troll) .
- ChrisMS

I was just yanking yer chain man......but curious how you think you are "rarely wrong" when posting a different viewpoint.
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Apr 16 @ 5:17 PM ET
Of course it's all speculation, or do you think people who make documentaries that look at how things would change in the future are time travellers and actually are writing from experience? China has said for decades that they believe Taiwan isn't its own country and would bring it back under Chinese rule if they were given the chance? You don't think that Israel would be destroyed by other countries in the region? I also believe Japan and South Korea would start producing nuclear weapons if the US pulled out of that region which would set off a SEA arms race, and with North Korea being (frank)ing crazy results wouldn't be great.

Edit

They also never said Chinas first attack would be nuclear, but China is bound to start expanding or creating 'zones of influence' and as traditional enemies Japan would be looked at. Remember Japan invaded China in 1931, it could actually be looked at as when WW2 began in the Pacific Theater. Why is China building up their military the way that they are?

- ShooterMcGavin


Excellent Shooter.

I am tired of hearing and I do all the time in Toronto "fukking Jingoistic Americans"

While they may have a point but the world and Canadians should take note that it's easy to say all that when the US has in fact been the world's peacekeeper since the end of world war 2. Total cake and eat it too.
Hell, even Germany has been welcoming American bases and troops by the thousands for decades which they don't pay for.

IF America does slip or change course or hand the reins off as many great societies do----"Permanence is the illusion of every age"----the world could get very, very interesting. What free society is there to help in this regard?
Eersel
Edmonton Oilers
Location: City of Failures, AB
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:19 PM ET
Sorry bro, but this is dependent upon the bottom couple seeds losing out while we win out, I like your optimism, but not gonna happen, that 5 losses in a row (frank)ed them. Would like to see them go out fighting though
- ruttager17


Win 5 games and lose 5 games didn't help much and doesn't make us a very good playoff team. But you're right, it would be interesting as hell.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:40 PM ET
the US has cut their presence in SEA in the last decade.
- ShooterMcGavin


The state department publicly stated last year they are refocusing most military assets in South East Asia. Hence why they reallocated most of their Middle Eastern presence in places like the Philippines, Indonesia, fortifying areas such a Guam, Okinawa, Taiwan and for the first time stationing Marines in Australia.

In the words of your own government: " We are attempting to contain the growing presence of China in South East Asia"....

And people wonder why China is amassing the worlds biggest and most advanced army. Here's a few great articles if you wish:

http://www.cato.org/publi...-china-containment-policy
http://www.ndu.edu/press/...gy-in-southeast-asia.html
ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Stolen Colon, AB
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:42 PM ET
Excellent Shooter.

I am tired of hearing and I do all the time in Toronto "fukking Jingoistic Americans"

While they may have a point but the world and Canadians should take note that it's easy to say all that when the US has in fact been the world's peacekeeper since the end of world war 2. Total cake and eat it too.
Hell, even Germany has been welcoming American bases and troops by the thousands for decades which they don't pay for.

IF America does slip or change course or hand the reins off as many great societies do----"Permanence is the illusion of every age"----the world could get very, very interesting. What free society is there to help in this regard?

- Salvo


Yep remember what happened when the US packed up and went home after WW1 and left Europe to deal with Europe.

The whole blood for oil thing is ridiculous too, the US gets 12% of its oil from the ME, only 3% from Iraq and Kuwait. China by comparison gets 40% of their oil from the ME, Europe 26% and India 60%. Someone has to maintain peace in that region, not saying it has to be the US but what happens if the supplies breakdown?
Eersel
Edmonton Oilers
Location: City of Failures, AB
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:44 PM ET
Yep remember what happened when the US packed up and went home after WW1 and left Europe to deal with Europe.

The whole blood for oil thing is ridiculous too, the US gets 12% of its oil from the ME, only 3% from Iraq and Kuwait. China by comparison gets 40% of their oil from the ME, Europe 26% and India 60%. Someone has to maintain peace in that region, not saying it has to be the US but what happens if the supplies breakdown?

- ShooterMcGavin


Invade Ft. McMurray
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:47 PM ET
Yep remember what happened when the US packed up and went home after WW1 and left Europe to deal with Europe.

The whole blood for oil thing is ridiculous too, the US gets 12% of its oil from the ME, only 3% from Iraq and Kuwait. China by comparison gets 40% of their oil from the ME, Europe 26% and India 60%. Someone has to maintain peace in that region, not saying it has to be the US but what happens if the supplies breakdown?

- ShooterMcGavin

Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:49 PM ET
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:52 PM ET
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Apr 16 @ 5:53 PM ET
Yep remember what happened when the US packed up and went home after WW1 and left Europe to deal with Europe.

The whole blood for oil thing is ridiculous too, the US gets 12% of its oil from the ME, only 3% from Iraq and Kuwait. China by comparison gets 40% of their oil from the ME, Europe 26% and India 60%. Someone has to maintain peace in that region, not saying it has to be the US but what happens if the supplies breakdown?

- ShooterMcGavin


The issue is that you are talking about foreign states national resources. As long as places like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq and Kuwait's economies are fully dependent on oil exports the supply will never break down.

Iraq for example has 90% of its total economy dependent on oil exports, the issue has never been about these nations reducing oil exports, but foreign nations wishing to maintain influence over the control and profitability of these resources. The current conflict in Nigeria is a perfect example of this.
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