You clearly have not read.. I pointed you to credible sites.. I have already read them.

Your turn..

Everything you said was wrong from credible sources.
- DoctorNHL

And what about what Big_light posted?

Conveniently ignored because it goes against your bigoted views?

She, as well as their father believe they were framed. They are in denial, and will come back to earth at some point.
- Pecafan Fan

I believe the shock of it all.. but the pictures and video are quite clear.

The video shows the bag and colour...


this one shows the bag placed...



and another photo shows he walking away calmly.. without a bag.

Pretty factual.. she will see it in the end.

Maybe then we will get remorse.

You clearly have not read.. I pointed you to credible sites.. I have already read them.

Your turn..

Everything you said was wrong from credible sources.
- DoctorNHL

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22212946

Seems to mention they're chechens.

http://www.guardian.co.uk...nk-chechnya-unprecedented
So does this.

Kinda busy at work, so I'm not going to go digging too much... But you know the situation in that part of the world, right? And what was happening there when they were children?

And what about what Big_light posted?

Conveniently ignored because it goes against your bigoted views?
- Pecafan Fan

What did I say that was bigoted?

I believe the shock of it all.. but the pictures and video are quite clear.

The video shows the bag and colour...


this one shows the bag placed...



and another photo shows he walking away calmly.. without a bag.

Pretty factual.. she will see it in the end.

Maybe then we will get remorse.
- DoctorNHL

Don't forget...

One of her family members was killed by the cops this morning.

I believe the shock of it all.. but the pictures and video are quite clear.

The video shows the bag and colour...


this one shows the bag placed...



and another photo shows he walking away calmly.. without a bag.

Pretty factual.. she will see it in the end.

Maybe then we will get remorse.
- DoctorNHL

I saw a video of a UFO blowing up the white house, one time.

When you think somebody is framing your family... the evidence is just part of that plot. And it's not hard to doctor footage and images.

What did I say that was bigoted?
- DoctorNHL

You have to realize these people, because of where they come from, don't see "the authorities" the way we do.

Getting killed for political beliefs in their native country is all too common.

You have to realize these people, because of where they come from, don't see "the authorities" the way we do.

Getting killed for political beliefs in their native country is all too common.
- Pecafan Fan

GIVE ME EVIDENCE. NOW.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22212946

Seems to mention they're chechens.

http://www.guardian.co.uk...nk-chechnya-unprecedented
So does this.

Kinda busy at work, so I'm not going to go digging too much... But you know the situation in that part of the world, right? And what was happening there when they were children?
- Feeling Glucky?

I am busy too.. got a party to go too...

Yes the younger brother left at the age of 8 to move to the states..

the older one didn't move their till his 20's..

but I don't blame the Chech's, I don't blame his religion, I blame them.. alone.. and didn't appreciate his aunt.. thought his uncle's did well considering.

That was all.

GIVE ME EVIDENCE. NOW.
- Feeling Glucky?

I am busy too.. got a party to go too...

Yes the younger brother left at the age of 8 to move to the states..

the older one didn't move their till his 20's..

but I don't blame the Chech's, I don't blame his religion, I blame them.. alone.. and didn't appreciate his aunt.. thought his uncle's did well considering.

That was all.
- DoctorNHL

obviously tough to empathize, but if I am the dad, I'm pretty pissed at the uncle right now.

Am I really the only one who thinks this guy threw his family under the bus quickly? Was giving him benefit of the doubt cause I thought he lived in Boston area. though, does live in US, so still feels it more than the others who don't I suppose.

You have to realize these people, because of where they come from, don't see "the authorities" the way we do.

Getting killed for political beliefs in their native country is all too common.
- Pecafan Fan

Sounds like it is you with the bigoted comments.. I don't think Chechnya, Religion.. etc.. have anything to do with the atrocity.

Sounds like it is you with the bigoted comments.. I don't think Chechnya, Religion.. etc.. have anything to do with the atrocity.
- DoctorNHL

I'm talking about their Aunt's perspective.

Not excusing what the 2 bombers did.

I am busy too.. got a party to go too...

Yes the younger brother left at the age of 8 to move to the states..

the older one didn't move their till his 20's..

b ut I don't blame the Chech's, I don't blame his religion, I blame them.. alone.. and didn't appreciate his aunt.. thought his uncle's did well considering.

That was all.
- DoctorNHL

nobody's blaming those things, just saying it effects a person's mental and social stability and how they see the world.

you are a product of your experience. Impossible not to be.

I am busy too.. got a party to go too...

Yes the younger brother left at the age of 8 to move to the states..

the older one didn't move their till his 20's..

but I don't blame the Chech's, I don't blame his religion, I blame them.. alone.. and didn't appreciate his aunt.. thought his uncle's did well considering.

That was all.
- DoctorNHL

http://www.theglobeandmai...caucasus/article11407214/

Hmm... seems here that both were refugees. Which is why I said they relocated at least twice.


Maybe you should read some credible sources before going of on how someone's(correct) post is "100% wrong", dontcha think, mr. Alpha?

I'm talking about their Aunt's perspective.

Not excusing what the 2 bombers did.
- Pecafan Fan

I think he's realizing he's in the wrong and wants to deflect it onto others.

- Pecafan Fan

I'm sure if you go to Wikipedia, you'll see this is entirely inaccurate.

obviously tough to empathize, but if I am the dad, I'm pretty pissed at the uncle right now.

Am I really the only one who thinks this guy threw his family under the bus quickly? Was giving him benefit of the doubt cause I thought he lived in Boston area. though, does live in US, so still feels it more than the others who don't I suppose.
- Big_Lightnin

He saw the evidence, the pictures, the video.. saw pictures of his nephew robbing a convenience store... then a gun fight and his nephew strapped to a bomb was killed. Who was he throwing under the bus.. my nephews are innocent that is why they armed up.. and didn't turn themselves in.

Those punks threw their family under the bus not the other way around.

I feel sorry for him and his family.. the crap they will have to put up with.. because family members were idiots.

Sounds like it is you with the bigoted comments.. I don't think Chechnya, Religion.. etc.. have anything to do with the atrocity.
- DoctorNHL

you just think the guys are crazies, right?

well, what made them crazy? good chance it was all the crazy poop they saw and lived through, and turmoil in their lives that they didn't know how to deal with.

wouldn't be the first time.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/lives-of-boston-bombing-suspects-defined-by-war-in-russian-caucasus/article11407214/

Hmm... seems here that both were refugees. Which is why I said they relocated at least twice.


Maybe you should read some credible sources before going of on how someone's(correct) post is "100% wrong", dontcha think, mr. Alpha?
- Feeling Glucky?

exact quote was they relocated twice not "at least".. they relocated more than that.

That was one of the arguments.. reading helps.. continue..

He saw the evidence, the pictures, the video.. saw pictures of his nephew robbing a convenience store... then a gun fight and his nephew strapped to a bomb was killed. Who was he throwing under the bus.. my nephews are innocent that is why they armed up.. and didn't turn themselves in.

Those punks threw their family under the bus not the other way around.

I feel sorry for him and his family.. the crap they will have to put up with.. because family members were idiots.
- DoctorNHL

but not the Aunt?

I'm just saying, I was surprised by the Uncle's comments. I was not at all surprised by the Aunt's or father's comments. They were exactly what I expected from family members.

you just think the guys are crazies, right?

well, what made them crazy? good chance it was all the crazy poop they saw and lived through, and turmoil in their lives that they didn't know how to deal with.

wouldn't be the first time.
- Big_Lightnin

So you blame all the parents of serial killers? Isn't that guilt by association?

obviously tough to empathize, but if I am the dad, I'm pretty pissed at the uncle right now.

Am I really the only one who thinks this guy threw his family under the bus quickly? Was giving him benefit of the doubt cause I thought he lived in Boston area. though, does live in US, so still feels it more than the others who don't I suppose.
- Big_Lightnin

I wouldn;t be surprised if the uncle shares his family's beliefs, and just said what he said out of fear. It's an angry city... don't want to be seen as taking the bomber's side.

exact quote was they relocated twice not "at least".. they relocated more than that.

That was one of the arguments.. reading helps.. continue..
- DoctorNHL

um...

Go read on some credible sites like the BBC, maybe CBC, why not even the Guardian in the UK..

Everything you said was wrong.

It is not my job to create your side of the debate for you.
- DoctorNHL

Maybe existing mental instability paired with being ripped from their home by a bloody civil war and relocating at least twice at a young age could be a factor here.
- Feeling Glucky?

a conflicting portrait emerged of two young men who, by most accounts, appeared to fit right into their American lives, but may have felt socially isolated in a culture they didn't understand.

The brothers and their extended family are ethnic Chechens. Chechnya has been plagued by an Islamic insurgency stemming from separatist wars.

Conflicting accounts trace their journey as refugees from conflict zones to America.

Records of their birthplaces have not been confirmed, but the BBC reports their father, Anzor Tsarnaev, says Tamerlan was born in Chechnya and Dzhokhar in Kyrgystan, after the family fled war-torn Chechnya in the early 1990s.

The parents and their youngest son moved to the U.S. in 2002, his sister Maret Tsarnaeva told CBC News


all from CBC... pretty much exactly as glucker said...

So you blame all the parents of serial killers? Isn't that guilt by association?
- DoctorNHL

Living in an American Suburb has nothing to do with growing up in a country divided by war.


American soldiers go to war for 6 months and come back with mental disorders. What does it do to a child that lives in this from his birth to his teen age?

You don't think it (frank)s up your brain a little? Or is it that American soldiers are just a bunch of (frank)ing pussies maybe?