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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 21 @ 8:31 PM ET
Good two-way player, good skater, sees the ice well. He can play center or wing. My comparison players for him are both wingers, but I think he'll end up being a center in the NHL. Best case scenario is a player akin to Loui Eriksson. Worst case, if his offense doesn't develop as hoped would be someone like P.J. Axelsson.
- bmeltzer


Thanks Bill, the players slipped my memory.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:18 PM ET
This off season, the flyers need to aquire a sniper for their top line left wing, along with a stronger blue line. Last night, Voracek and Giroux supplied Gagne with ATLEAST 5 amazing opportunities, all of which Gagne failed to even hit the net on. I was imagining if we had that one more player to put the puck away with a strong shot, just how many goals our first line would have scored last night. Whether this player is already on the Flyers, or needs to be aquired from another team, is beyond me. Dupuis and Ryder are both UFAs this offseason, and could probably be converted to the left wing, if the opportunity arose. ).
- JAKEw1234


I wouldn't be too hard on Gags. That line is just beginning to form chemistry and it's partly due to him...the fact that they are coming close so many times is a good sign and bodes well for future production. Gagne had 5 shots on goal in that game, so I'm pretty sure a few of those opportunities he got weren't exactly wasted...Gagne moves well without the puck and knows how to sneak into spots to get open...he once played very well as Forsberg's winger....his gun might be a bit rusty these days, but he still owns a pretty good wrister and snap shot.

Now, I'm not saying Gagne is an ideal top line winger for these guys, but I don't think Dupuis or Ryder would be much of an improvement over (a healthy) Gagne or Hartnell for that matter, at this time. The lines will probably be different next season anyway. There are a number of players that can step up into that kind of top line role if the likes of Hartnell and Gags isn't cutting it.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 21 @ 9:30 PM ET
We either take Darnell Nurse, or trade Brayden Coburn + our first round pick for a 3rd or 4th overall pick.
- JAKEw1234


With Mezaros and Grossman under injury clouds, trading Coburn is a bad idea.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:33 PM ET
With Mezaros and Grossman under injury clouds, trading Coburn is a bad idea.
- Feanor


It is especially since we aren't deep at it to begin with and you pick a kid who you have no idea if he'll make but you'll hope like hell he does & is likely still 3 or so years away. How would that help now?

That and you can't assume Coburn plus our 1st will land you in the top 3 in this deep draft. He's not a bad d-man but can look that way when he's asked to do too much.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 21 @ 9:38 PM ET
With Mezaros and Grossman under injury clouds, trading Coburn is a bad idea.
- Feanor


Wait until MAB makes his return next year. I wouldnt be opposed to trading Coburn but you have to get back an NHL defenseman.

Moving Mez is the way to go but his value is shot right now.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:39 PM ET
Wait until MAB makes his return next year.
- stveshdy

defense or o-line?
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:47 PM ET
im aware
i just think other concerns about his skating and offensive potential were the real reasons he dropped to 8. Not saying mono didnt play a part in that but i cant see a team passing on someone they view as having a top overall pick skillset because he got sick.
- Crimsoninja

Agreed. It's bogus
- Just5


From what I recall and could find out, he dropped down in the rankings, supposedly for a few reasons, one being the perception that he "doesn't use his size" and isn't physical enough. Also, the perception that he didn't have a great WJC (he was behind players on the depth chart)...also, the emergence of RNH and Landescog kind of took some of the attention away from him...there was a mention or two int he reports about him not being a great skater needing to work on his burst/initial strides etc.

exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 21 @ 9:52 PM ET
Wait until MAB makes his return next year. I wouldnt be opposed to trading Coburn but you have to get back an NHL defenseman.

Moving Mez is the way to go but his value is shot right now.

- stveshdy


MAB is in the area...a friend of mine talked to him Friday. She said he seemed to be fine. A comeback would be a bit of a long shot, but I'd love to see it. He was a good looking young prospect when healthy.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:10 PM ET
Wait until MAB makes his return next year. I wouldnt be opposed to trading Coburn but you have to get back an NHL defenseman.

Moving Mez is the way to go but his value is shot right now.

- stveshdy

You mean the guy who's dealing with conky problems?

Even if he wasn't dealing with them, i still wouldn't have such high hopes since he played a whopping 40 or so games.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 21 @ 10:18 PM ET
You mean the guy who's dealing with conky problems?

Even if he wasn't dealing with them, i still wouldn't have such high hopes since he played a whopping 40 or so games.

- Yosimar89


MAB looked to have a good mix of physicality and offensive skill when he was up with the Flyers. I really did like him.

Related to the whole injury thing, I do hope Grossman is pretty healthy next season. Losing the stability he brings is hard to overcome, and he was a force on the PK.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:30 PM ET
MAB looked to have a good mix of physicality and offensive skill when he was up with the Flyers. I really did like him.

Related to the whole injury thing, I do hope Grossman is pretty healthy next season. Losing the stability he brings is hard to overcome, and he was a force on the PK.

- flyer_nutter

I will admit i was surprised by him not being completely horrible after being a complete dud in the AHL.

But if it comes down to an inexperienced young guy for that 6th spot, im taking Gus every single time over MAB.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:31 PM ET
Jackets with a 4-3 win over sharks.

Bob with 32 saves, what an amazing story if this team actually makes it into the post season (even in a shortened one).
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 21 @ 10:51 PM ET
Jackets with a 4-3 win over sharks.

Bob with 32 saves, what an amazing story if this team actually makes it into the post season (even in a shortened one).

- Yosimar89


huge win. i think they make it.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 21 @ 10:52 PM ET
the fact that the devils didn't make the playoffs (now 2 out of the last 3 years) gives me some solace as our poopty season comes to an end.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:06 PM ET
the fact that the devils didn't make the playoffs (now 2 out of the last 3 years) gives me some solace as our poopty season comes to an end.
- hammarby31


I just wish I had a better feel for what they were planning this summer.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 21 @ 11:20 PM ET
I just wish I had a better feel for what they were planning this summer.
- Jsaquella

vengeance
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 21 @ 11:24 PM ET
vengeance
- Crimsoninja

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:25 PM ET
vengeance
- Crimsoninja

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Apr 21 @ 11:26 PM ET
Like the Bryz signing of 2 summers ago, I feel since we missed out of the better dmen last year, Snider tells Homer to pull the trade of Cooter ofr Yandle the smelly candle.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 22 @ 7:53 AM ET
Devils first rounder quits team, in the middle of a playoff series

http://ca.sports.yahoo.co...ly-quits-b-034759479.html

The Devils were criticized for even using the pick, which was 29th, rather than choosing to forfeit it in the Kovalchuk contract penalty. They will now likley have to forfeit their pick in the 2014 draft, even if it's a top one.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 22 @ 8:04 AM ET
breakfast today

Omelet with
rosemary garlic shrimp
onion, orange pepper, jalapeno, mushroom
little bit of grated parmesan cheese.

#lovemyoffseason
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 22 @ 8:07 AM ET
breakfast today

Omelet with
rosemary garlic shrimp
onion, orange pepper, jalapeno, mushroom
little bit of grated parmesan cheese.

#lovemyoffseason

- nails


Great. I had Froot Loops with my kids.
Tartan69
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Section 112, PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 22 @ 8:19 AM ET
vengeance
- Crimsoninja


Reminds me of this 3601 masterpiece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKzuWpQLt-w
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 22 @ 8:31 AM ET
Devils first rounder quits team, in the middle of a playoff series

http://ca.sports.yahoo.co...ly-quits-b-034759479.html

The Devils were criticized for even using the pick, which was 29th, rather than choosing to forfeit it in the Kovalchuk contract penalty. They will now likley have to forfeit their pick in the 2014 draft, even if it's a top one.

- Jsaquella

Im lovin it
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 22 @ 8:46 AM ET
Devils first rounder quits team, in the middle of a playoff series

http://ca.sports.yahoo.co...ly-quits-b-034759479.html

The Devils were criticized for even using the pick, which was 29th, rather than choosing to forfeit it in the Kovalchuk contract penalty. They will now likley have to forfeit their pick in the 2014 draft, even if it's a top one.

- Jsaquella


Wahow. And his father is a coach.

Wow what a punk. Even funnier is the one comment on the story saying the coach needs to get over it.
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