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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 6:07 PM ET
I was surprised Bordson wasn't recalled, until I remembered he's on an AHL deal
- Jsaquella


Not that it will influence what they do free agency or draft wise it can possibly reset things is how they view them & how they feel they can help.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 6:10 PM ET
By option, I mean goalies I'd rather have. Also, if you read my post, I said goalies I would prefer. You're welcome.
- Rocktane

Oh I didn't realize we were building a play station roster. Thanks
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 22 @ 6:11 PM ET
Not that it will influence what they do free agency or draft wise it can possibly reset things is how they view them & how they feel they can help.
- ob18


If any of them play well enough to suddenly displace a possible trade or FA addition, I'd have to wonder how it is they never got a shot earlier.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 6:11 PM ET
Unfortunately, they're getting to the point where they need to consider a buyout this summer. The cap situation does them no favors, and going with a Mason-FNG guy tandem, behind a more responsibly defensive team, might have to do.

I'm as big a Bryz guy as there is, but if he needs a solid defensive team in front of him to sustain his level of play at a high quality state, then I'd rather pay less.

All those years of a goalie carousel, there were maybe 3 where the goaltending was the primary reason for a playoff loss. Just as I say that other coaches get more out of less talented teams, other goalies could provide the level of play Bryz has, for less money and aggrivation.

- Jsaquella

I completely understand that, but if we're going to get another goalie lets focus on who is available and or better.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 22 @ 6:17 PM ET
I completely understand that, but if we're going to get another goalie lets focus on who is available and or better.
- JoeRussomanno


It's not just a question of who is better, it has to be what is better for the team, both on the ice, in the room and on the spreadsheet.

With the cap dropping next year, the financial aspect is huge. If the best Bryz can provide is .905/2.60, then they can find a cheaper option that can give them that.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 22 @ 6:26 PM ET
Devils still have yet to relinquish their 1st-round pick from the Kovalchuk sanctions... how delicious would it be if they put it off again this year, were worse in 2013-14, and were forced to give up the pick that would have gotten them Connor McDavid?

That Stefan Matteau pick is looking pretty ridiculous right about now.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 22 @ 6:32 PM ET
Devils still have yet to relinquish their 1st-round pick from the Kovalchuk sanctions... how delicious would it be if they put it off again this year, were worse in 2013-14, and were forced to give up the pick that would have gotten them Connor McDavid?

That Stefan Matteau pick is looking pretty ridiculous right about now.

- Tomahawk


Especially since Matteau left his team in the middle of a playoff series. Character guy.

They will likely not forfeit the pick this year. They're in the lottery and the draft is being held in Newark.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 22 @ 6:38 PM ET
Especially since Matteau left his team in the middle of a playoff series. Character guy.

They will likely not forfeit the pick this year. They're in the lottery and the draft is being held in Newark.

- Jsaquella


Hypothetical: If the Flyers end up with the 7th pick, and NJ offers Adam Larsson for it, do you do it?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 22 @ 6:40 PM ET
Hypothetical: If the Flyers end up with the 7th pick, and NJ offers Adam Larsson for it, do you do it?
- Jsaquella



I don't think so.

For Jon Merrill, I would though.

Btw, my Devils fantasy is bunk... McDavid is eligible in 2015, not 2014.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 22 @ 6:42 PM ET
I don't think so.

For Jon Merrill, I would though.

Btw, my Devils fantasy is bunk... McDavid is eligible in 2015, not 2014.

- Tomahawk


I thought he was a '14 kid, too
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 6:42 PM ET
Hypothetical: If the Flyers end up with the 7th pick, and NJ offers Adam Larsson for it, do you do it?
- Jsaquella


Absolutely not
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 6:47 PM ET
I completely understand that, but if we're going to get another goalie lets focus on who is available and or better.
- JoeRussomanno


Better yet I say we don't even worry about until sometime next year. Glad to see holmer come out and put this to bed
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 22 @ 7:04 PM ET
I just hope they give Akeson, McGinn and Konan some games. Might as well see how they respond. Akeson was a good soldier, accepting a demotion to the ECHL and it'd be interesting to see how his game looks against NHL competition.
- Jsaquella



Akeson's put up points and shown growth at every level, so that's a really positive sign. If he makes a quick transition in these final games, it could make the summer even more interesting.



Slippery.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 7:12 PM ET
If any of them play well enough to suddenly displace a possible trade or FA addition, I'd have to wonder how it is they never got a shot earlier.
- Jsaquella


2 things either they didn't believe in them or didn't believe they'd be able to adjust well enough long term under Lavvy
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 7:13 PM ET
Especially since Matteau left his team in the middle of a playoff series. Character guy.

They will likely not forfeit the pick this year. They're in the lottery and the draft is being held in Newark.

- Jsaquella


I don't think he left as much as it was more of a mutual parting of the ways.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 22 @ 7:26 PM ET
It's not just a question of who is better, it has to be what is better for the team, both on the ice, in the room and on the spreadsheet.

With the cap dropping next year, the financial aspect is huge. If the best Bryz can provide is .905/2.60, then they can find a cheaper option that can give them that.

- Jsaquella


Most important decision of the summer. Unless they look at firing the coach.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 7:29 PM ET
Pettibone has an 8 something era in the minors and the phillies call him up. This is going to be very bad
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 7:31 PM ET
Most important decision of the summer. Unless they look at firing the coach.
- stveshdy


If you believe holmer from today's quotes there is no decision
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 22 @ 7:36 PM ET
If you believe holmer from today's quotes there is no decision
- Just5


Don't believe a word he says. There's noway he would come out and say that Bryz is going to be bought out.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 7:38 PM ET
Don't believe a word he says. There's noway he would come out and say that Bryz is going to be bought out.
- stveshdy


I don't know. We all know his track record but I think I believe him this time
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 22 @ 7:39 PM ET
I don't know. We all know his track record but I think I believe him this time
- Just5


I wouldn't be surprised either way. It'll be Snider's call, anyhow
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 7:42 PM ET
Bryz is actually going to be highest paid goalie in the league next season in terms of salary ($8M) -- $1M over the next closest guy (Quick) and $3M more than Hank -- that's even more mind-boggling.
- Tomahawk



Not really a good point. Bryzgalov is in the early years of a front loaded contract. Lunqvist is the last year of his contract, and he lowest salary year of his current deal. What do you think Lundqvist is going to get in his next deal? Also doesn't take into account how salaries have escalated and the difference in time of when each player signed their deals.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 7:43 PM ET
Kudos to Bryz's agent. Was there anyone else in the bidding war for Bryz or did Holmgren bid against himself? The Flyers tend to pay top dollar for Free Agents which is why their agents like the Flyers.
- Flyers_01


Just the Flyers pay top dollar for top Free Agents? No other team does?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 22 @ 7:46 PM ET
I don't know. We all know his track record but I think I believe him this time
- Just5


Holmgren can say whatever he wants to the public but the fact is he will have to make a decision on Bryz.

He might give him another year and then decide whether to keep him for good.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 22 @ 7:48 PM ET
Just the Flyers pay top dollar for top Free Agents? No other team does?
- MJL


Every team pays for free agents. Not sure he had to sign Bryz to a 9 year contract.
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