however former leaf first round draft pick Tuukka Rask has played a HUGE role in the Bruins playoff run.

makes you wonder if the leafs had not given up on him.
- Doppleganger

not what happened

however former leaf first round draft pick Tuukka Rask has played a HUGE role in the Bruins playoff run.

makes you wonder if the leafs had not given up on him.
- Doppleganger

They didn't give up on them, they just stupidly thought that having two top goalie prospects (at the time) made one expendable and proceeded to trade the best of the two for the worst goalie in the league.

not what happened
- senstroll

They gave him away for nothing............sounds like they did not think he would amount to anything.

They gave him away for nothing............sounds like they did not think he would amount to anything.
- Doppleganger

No, they just did an awful job assessing Raycroft's talent level. They thought they were getting a Calder winning future star goalie in return. Laughable but likely true.

Tends to happen when your team dominates. Had Boston lost to Toronto while he shat the bed things would have been a bit different. They didn't though.

Seguin has had zero impact regardless but nobody cares.
- daeth

I care.

Trade him to ya for 2 1sts and a 2nd

No, they just did an awful job assessing Raycroft's talent level. They thought they were getting a Calder winning future star goalie in return. Laughable but likely true.
- daeth

Raycroft had a great rokie year on a very solid team

Then teams got the book on him and he was poor coming out of the lockout.

But we're happy with Tuukka. Bet dogs all throughout the 617 are named Tuukka by their owners these days

Raycroft had a great rokie year on a very solid team

Then teams got the book on him and he was poor coming out of the lockout.

But we're happy with Tuukka. Bet dogs all throughout the 617 are named Tuukka by their owners these days
- bruinsbeer69

I guess I should just be happy that people don't talk about the Rask trade as much as the Kessel one. Painful deal.

I care.

Trade him to ya for 2 1sts and a 2nd
- bruinsbeer69

I'd prefer not.

Raycroft had a great rokie year on a very solid team

Then teams got the book on him and he was poor coming out of the lockout.

But we're happy with Tuukka. Bet dogs all throughout the 617 are named Tuukka by their owners these days
- bruinsbeer69

By Steve Simmon in today's Toronto Sun
The trade that sent Tuukka Rask to the Boston Bruins could have been made without the emerging superstar involved.

According to those close to the deal, the Bruins would have happily accepted young goaltender Justin Pogge in exchange for Andrew Raycroft.

The problem at the time was, Leafs general manager John Ferguson was uneasy about moving Pogge, wasn’t convinced Rask was better and wouldn’t agree to move Pogge because he had won the gold medal playing for Team Canada at the world junior championships that year.

Ferguson told his senior staff that “we’d get killed for trading the gold medal goalie,” so he agreed to make the deal with Boston, which was questionable at the time and looks horrendous in retrospect.

Rask has emerged as one of the top goalies of this generation while Pogge, who played this season in Italy, managed just seven NHL games.

The worst part of the Raycroft deal wasn’t how he played for the Leafs. The worst part was finding out later the Bruins would have released him had they not traded him, making him available to the Leafs without any compensation at all.

Rask, by the way, is the best first-round pick the Leafs have made since Vincent Damphousse 27 years ago.

By Steve Simmon in today's Toronto Sun
The trade that sent Tuukka Rask to the Boston Bruins could have been made without the emerging superstar involved.

According to those close to the deal, the Bruins would have happily accepted young goaltender Justin Pogge in exchange for Andrew Raycroft.

The problem at the time was, Leafs general manager John Ferguson was uneasy about moving Pogge, wasn’t convinced Rask was better and wouldn’t agree to move Pogge because he had won the gold medal playing for Team Canada at the world junior championships that year.

Ferguson told his senior staff that “we’d get killed for trading the gold medal goalie,” so he agreed to make the deal with Boston, which was questionable at the time and looks horrendous in retrospect.

Rask has emerged as one of the top goalies of this generation while Pogge, who played this season in Italy, managed just seven NHL games.

The worst part of the Raycroft deal wasn’t how he played for the Leafs. The worst part was finding out later the Bruins would have released him had they not traded him, making him available to the Leafs without any compensation at all.

Rask, by the way, is the best first-round pick the Leafs have made since Vincent Damphousse 27 years ago.
- Doppleganger

The issue I had about the Rask trade the second I heard it was, why? Why the need to decide between Rask/Pogge? The Leafs did not need a young starter like Raycroft. They could have signed Manny Legace for nothing as a veteran stop-gap.

So many other teams have two good goalies and wait until they absolutely have to make a choice before moving one. The Leafs were years from that decision. There was just no need for getting a guy like Raycroft.

It was just bizarre.

The Rask trade is the worst in Leafs worst trade in franchise history. The Kessel trade has made people forget it. The Leafs got a 21 year-old future star as a core piece for the 2 first rounders they traded. What do they have to show for Rask? Nothing.

I brought up the rask trade to a leafs fan and then the Kessel deal. He said "at least we won the kaberle deal" and I said "we won the cup" was a little awkward because I thought he might cry

By Steve Simmon in today's Toronto Sun
The trade that sent Tuukka Rask to the Boston Bruins could have been made without the emerging superstar involved.

According to those close to the deal, the Bruins would have happily accepted young goaltender Justin Pogge in exchange for Andrew Raycroft.

The problem at the time was, Leafs general manager John Ferguson was uneasy about moving Pogge, wasn’t convinced Rask was better and wouldn’t agree to move Pogge because he had won the gold medal playing for Team Canada at the world junior championships that year.

Ferguson told his senior staff that “we’d get killed for trading the gold medal goalie,” so he agreed to make the deal with Boston, which was questionable at the time and looks horrendous in retrospect.

Rask has emerged as one of the top goalies of this generation while Pogge, who played this season in Italy, managed just seven NHL games.

The worst part of the Raycroft deal wasn’t how he played for the Leafs. The worst part was finding out later the Bruins would have released him had they not traded him, making him available to the Leafs without any compensation at all.

Rask, by the way, is the best first-round pick the Leafs have made since Vincent Damphousse 27 years ago.
- Doppleganger

I know this story. I still giggle like a chick every single time I hear it

I brought up the rask trade to a leafs fan and then the Kessel deal. He said "at least we won the kaberle deal" and I said "we won the cup" was a little awkward because I thought he might cry
- salvadorsanchez

why? None of the trades really contributed to the Bruins cup. Rask didn't play a single game, and Seguin didn't really do much. Not nearly what Kessel could have done. And Kaberle, from what I recall, was just plain terrible.

I know this story. I still giggle like a chick every single time I hear it
- bruinsbeer69

JFJ was a moron.

why? None of the trades really contributed to the Bruins cup. Rask didn't play a single game, and Seguin didn't really do much. Not nearly what Kessel could have done. And Kaberle, from what I recall, was just plain terrible.
- Dirte

good points.

good points.
- Doppleganger

I actually suspect he’s full of crap, and no such conversation ever took place, because it makes no sense. The Rask for Raycroft trade was completely stupid. But suggesting that any of those trades contributed to a Bruins cup, and it was won by players taken from the Leafs is just plain BS. And it's not like the Bruins are a rivalry either. It doesn't bother me that the Bruins won the cup. I actually am a bit of a Bruins fan, from the Cam Neely days. Seabass was one of my favourites.

why? None of the trades really contributed to the Bruins cup. Rask didn't play a single game, and Seguin didn't really do much. Not nearly what Kessel could have done. And Kaberle, from what I recall, was just plain terrible.
- Dirte

We dont win that Toronto series without him.

that was a tight 7 game series, and his offensive explosion helped us win one of the early game.

I actually suspect he’s full of crap, and no such conversation ever took place, because it makes no sense. The Rask for Raycroft trade was completely stupid. But suggesting that any of those trades contributed to a Bruins cup, and it was won by players taken from the Leafs is just plain BS. And it's not like the Bruins are a rivalry either. It doesn't bother me that the Bruins won the cup. I actually am a bit of a Bruins fan, from the Cam Neely days. Seabass was one of my favourites.
- Dirte

However if the Bruins go on to win the Cup this year, the Rask trade will be a big part of it.

We dont win that Toronto series without him.

that was a tight 7 game series, and his offensive explosion helped us win one of the early game.
- bruinsbeer69

I was referring to the cup win two years ago. I'm not sure offensive explosion in a Toronto series you're talking about. Do you mean Tampa?

However if the Bruins go on to win the Cup this year, the Rask trade will be a big part of it.
- Doppleganger

Fair point.

It doesn't make the supposed conversation the other guy had make any sense though.

I was referring to the cup win two years ago. I'm not sure offensive explosion in a Toronto series you're talking about. Do you mean Tampa?
- Dirte

Yes, Tampa.....my mistake, sorry, thanks. They both start with "t"'s haha

However if the Bruins go on to win the Cup this year, the Rask trade will be a big part of it.
- Doppleganger

right about the time the leafs were trading rask...the sens let chara walk and chose Redden...Chara then led his team to a cup...imagine if the sens had Chara in 2007

wow teams make stupid decisions

right about the time the leafs were trading rask...the sens let chara walk and chose Redden...Chara then led his team to a cup...imagine if the sens had Chara in 2007

wow teams make stupid decisions
- senstroll

yeah are we really talking about a trade from 7 years ago that I'd guess no one predicted would be that bad?

That's like saying I can't believe the Oilers gave up on Daniel Cleary...

right about the time the leafs were trading rask...the sens let chara walk and chose Redden...Chara then led his team to a cup...imagine if the sens had Chara in 2007

wow teams make stupid decisions
- senstroll

Of course you are wrong about that. Ottawa offered Chara the same contract deal they gave Redden, as they wanted to retain both players. Chara, however wanted mare and demanded to be appointed Captain of the team on top of that.

As Ottawa was not about to strip the Captaincy away from Alfredsson, they resubmitted their offer and never heard back fro Chara or his agent.

At one second past midnight, the exact second he became an UFA, he signed with Boston.

Ottawa did not choose between the two (Chara & Redden), at let Chara go............he wanted out, and made such a ridiculous demand, that he knew the team would not agree too.

One of the reasons Chara wanted out, was that when Hossa forced the team into the position that they had to trade him (for Heatley) he knew that his future would not be in Ottawa unless he keep his contract demands within the teams Budget.