Of course you do but I agree with him. I would honestly not care what my record was if I still didn't make the playoffs.
- ob18

makes you think if he didn't care before

makes you think if he didn't care before
- 2Real

I'm sure many will go there but I doubt that is the case.

Knowing how to talk to reporters and being a nice guy shouldn't buy you a pass on why you've sucked for the last two... Love how they say bryz isn't a team player when he was the only one that showed up when this team had a chance to make the playoffs... Know why this team is playing better with less talent??? It's because the "patchwork" guys actually give a poop...
- Philly1980

This isn't about Briere at all. But on the topic of Briere, I dont' think people are giving him a pass. I hear a lot more people saying to buy him out and say good bye than I do to keep him...people want him gone...that's not giving him a pass...far from it.

you play this game to win. You play for the team and you try and win. He just practically said it doesnt matter if we win or not.
i've had enough of this guy. You shouldn't be saying poop like that after a win.
- FLYERSROCK!

Rock... Man. He didnt actually say that though.

The way I took it is that they should be ashamed, and it doesnt matter if they win anything now. They arent making the playoffs, the only thing that matters.

I'm sure many will go there but I doubt that is the case.
- ob18

It sucks he is at the point where anything he says automatically taken the wrong way.

I would agree with Bill that he has helped make his own bed somewhat, but its insane. Ive watched this team since '97 and didnt see one guy this hated that I can really remember.

you know your team stinks when the Islanders use their backup in your building

i don't think bryz has flat out thrown anyone under the bus by saying "this player made a bad play. this guy isn't playing well. we lost because this guy f'ed up". i just don't get the hyper/super critical focus and negative spin to everything the guy says or does. the local media has definitely made things challenging for him, he seems to be treated differently. i just don't get it. i don't even think he's weird. he talks about the universe and bears and whatever. so what? who f'ng cares. i find him fresh and interesting. everyone always clamors for players being honest, speaking their minds, being original, having some personality...then a player actually exhibits that behavior and the media/fans can't handle it.

go bryz.
- hammarby31

In a vacuum, I don't have a problem with any of it, personally... but I can understand how it's risky for an NHL player to be so "honest" to the media or to say stuff within the room that can be perceived as pointing fingers or being apathetic. There's just certain things you don't do, and it seems like he couldn't care less about that part of the code.


Bill pretty much confirmed that many of the Flyers believe that Bryz has repeatedly thrown players under the bus...it doesn't matter that you don't think he has, or that MJL or others don't think he has...the players think he has, and that's all that matters.

i agree with him there actually
- Crimsoninja

an NHL player shouldnt be saying it doesnt matter if we dont win anymore.
Ya sure its easy for us fans to sit behind our TV's or go to the games as a spectator and say it doesnt matter if we win or not, because we're fans of the team. We aren't players making millions a year.
Thats not the attitude i'd like to see from a guy we're paying 51M from. Not at all.
While I as a FAN agree with what hes saying (i should've said that earlier) an NHL player shouldnt be practically saying "it doesnt matter if we win or not, doesnt make a difference" Of course it matters! You play to win, and winning does matter. It makes the team feel better, finishing out strong instead of getting killed would certainly make it sting less. Especially against rival teams.

While i agree with his comments i dont think he should've said them.

Rock... Man. He didnt actually say that though.

The way I took it is that they should be ashamed, and it doesnt matter if they win anything now. They arent making the playoffs, the only thing that matters.
- flyer_nutter

You cant tell em that isnt what he's thinking.
Pretty obvious what the message was there.

back with peanuts
- 2Real

They would never do it because of the politically correct crap, but I'd love that for a slogan.

Back with Balls. 2013-2014.


That year with all the suspensions? I believe it was the "back with a vengeance team"... Was probably the best and more cohesive group I saw in recent times.

You cant tell em that isnt what he's thinking. Pretty obvious what the message was there.
- FLYERSROCK!

Huh?

In a vacuum, I don't have a problem with any of it, personally... but I can understand how it's risky for an NHL player to be so "honest" to the media or to say stuff within the room that can be perceived as pointing fingers or being apathetic. There's just certain things you don't do, and it seems like he couldn't care less about that part of the code.


Bill pretty much confirmed that many of the Flyers believe that Bryz has repeatedly thrown players under the bus...it doesn't matter that you don't think he has, or that MJL or others don't think he has...the players think he has, and that's all that matters.
- exlund

of course it doesn't matter what i think. but if the players believe that...well, maybe that says more about them than what it says about bryz.

of course it doesn't matter what i think. but if the players believe that...well, maybe that says more about them than what it says about bryz.
- hammarby31

If only they had Pronger and Lappy still on the team.

This team sorely misses that "presence".

I've beaten the horse here to mush, but for (frank)s sake please bring in one of Jagr, Morrow or Iginla if possible!

If only they had Pronger and Lappy still on the team.

This team sorely misses that "presence".

I've beaten the horse here to mush, but for (frank)s sake please bring in one of Jagr, Morrow or Iginla if possible!
- flyer_nutter

I really want Jagr back. I'm still not convinced that Hartnell can be the top guy line for Giroux and Voracek. He doesn't create the amount of space for them as Jagr does.

Seriously, Jagr is a tank.

Ron Hainsey. UFA.

You pray that Holmgren doesnt do something really stupid like calling this guys agent.

They would never do it because of the politically correct crap, but I'd love that for a slogan.

Back with Balls. 2013-2014.


That year with all the suspensions? I believe it was the "back with a vengeance team"... Was probably the best and more cohesive group I saw in recent times.
- flyer_nutter

that was some fun hockey to watch

I really want Jagr back. I'm still not convinced that Hartnell can be the top guy line for Giroux and Voracek. He doesn't create the amount of space for them as Jagr does.

Seriously, Jagr is a tank.
- KGBflyers10

Meh, I've gone through my dislike for Hartnell on here. Its more to do with his stupidity, inconsistency, and bad penalties.

That one really stupid penalty he took tonight, you could see him laughing in the box with Rosehill. Goofing around like an idiot.

Bryz has won a cup and was a vezina candidate or are we ignoring that
- Philly1980

I repsect what Bryz has done in the past but I'm looking at what I see thus far as a Flyer. He's been good at times but also bad at times. While he may not be the primary cause of the team's problems, he's not the type of player that can rise to the challenge and consistently win games for his team despite a number of games with questionable defense in front of him...for an average goalie, I wouldn't expect that kind of thing, but for what he's being paid, he's not been good enough imo. Add in the off ice distractions, the drawing the ire of some of his teammates etc. and it's just not working out so well thus far imo.

Bryz as a Flyer:

This year:

34th in the league in G.A.A.

41st in the leauge in SV %

Last year:

31st in SV %

20th in GAA

Now, I know it's a team game and the defensive troubles the team has had have been no help to him, but even with that takne into consideration, Bryz has been pretty meh overall. There are goalies on other defensively challenged teams that have signficantly better numbers (Lehtonen, Dubnyk, Giguere etc.)...I want him to succeed here, but I have grown to have serious doubts about Bryz as a Flyer long term.

I repsect what Bryz has done in the past but I'm looking at what I see thus far as a Flyer. He's been good at times but also bad at times. While he may not be the primary cause of the team's problems, he's not the type of player that can rise to the challenge and consistently win games for his team despite a number of games with questionable defense in front of him...for an average goalie, I wouldn't expect that kind of thing, but for what he's being paid, he's not been good enough imo. Add in the off ice distractions, the drawing the ire of some of his teammates etc. and it's just not working out so well thus far imo.

Bryz as a Flyer:

This year:

34th in the league in G.A.A.

41st in the leauge in SV %

Last year:

31st in SV %

20th in GAA

Now, I know it's a team game and the defensive troubles the team has had have been no help to him, but even with that takne into consideration, Bryz has been pretty meh overall. There are goalies on other defensively challenged teams that have signficantly better numbers (Lehtonen, Dubnyk, Giguere etc.)...I want him to succeed here, but I have grown to have serious doubts about him as a Flyer long term.
- exlund

how has mason been as a flyer in terms of stats

that was some fun hockey to watch
- 2Real

I know everyone loved that SCF run but that year was probably better for me.

Nobody likes to see dirty plays, but that stuff seemed to really bring them together, and every game they played with emotion. It helped them playing on the edge like that. It almost seemed like other teams feared them, and it really was them against the league.

Its what this team really missed this year imo, and it needs to be more than Rinaldo to bring that.

Good times. Absolutely loved that crew.

I really want Jagr back. I'm still not convinced that Hartnell can be the top guy line for Giroux and Voracek. He doesn't create the amount of space for them as Jagr does.

Seriously, Jagr is a tank.
- KGBflyers10

He is also what 42, 43 next year?

Cmon man just stop it they dont need him

I repsect what Bryz has done in the past but I'm looking at what I see thus far as a Flyer. He's been good at times but also bad at times. While he may not be the primary cause of the team's problems, he's not the type of player that can rise to the challenge and consistently win games for his team despite a number of games with questionable defense in front of him...for an average goalie, I wouldn't expect that kind of thing, but for what he's being paid, he's not been good enough imo. Add in the off ice distractions, the drawing the ire of some of his teammates etc. and it's just not working out so well thus far imo.

Bryz as a Flyer:

This year:

34th in G.A.A.

41st in SV %

Last year:

31st in SV %

20th in GAA

Now, I know it's a team game and the defensive troubles the team has had have been no help to him, but even with that takne into consideration, Bryz has been pretty meh overall. There are goalies on other defensively challenged teams that have signficantly better numbers (Lehtonen, Dubnyk, Giguere etc.)...I want him to succeed here, but I have grown to have serious doubts about him as a Flyer long term.
- exlund

flyers recent skid had them score 3 goals in 4 games. and each goal was scored in a separate game. there's been quite a bit of that. tough to win when you can't score and give you're goalie virtually zero margin for error most nights.

i agree he hasn't been as good as we'd like, but even with him being a vezina candidate, this team, the way they've played in front of him is probably a 7 seed at best and not a real threat to win the cup.

how has mason been as a flyer in terms of stats
- 2Real

because 3 or 4 games as a flyer means anything?

He is also what 42, 43 next year?

Cmon man just stop it they dont need him
- Just5

The only thing I'd say.

Is the qualities players like Jagr and Morrow bring, go a lot farther than goals or stats on the ice. Just my thoughts.