Chillax Joe, we all know his faults and that he's gone after this season. If for no other reason I'll always like him cuz he's the reason I started watching hockey. So you get my sparkling presence in your life due to Briere...
- FlyersGrace

When are they going to make you delete your avatar

no i dont think its that....but if we are going to balst bryz...lets blast danny also...somehow briere always gets a pass and thats the issue most of us bryz lovers have... watch out what you say about danny cause hes a class guy...you know what im a classy guy and no one pays me 6.5 million so ef him.
- Philly1980

For those D&D'ers out there.

Bryz
CHA 8

Briere
CHA 16

Guess who is getting the invite to my birthday party...

no i dont think its that....but if we are going to balst bryz...lets blast danny...somehow briere always gets a pass and thats the issue most of us bryz lovers have...
- Philly1980

I'd rather not mindlessly 'blast' anybody, personally. Why let that kind of posting set the standard?

When are they going to make you delete your avatar
- mayorofangrytown

Um, I hope never? Considering some of the things that are avatars on HB outside this thread mine is fairly tame. Why you want something else?

I'd rather not mindlessly 'blast' anybody, personally. Why let that kind of posting set the standard?
- BulliesPhan87

bill started this tmz poop yesterday.....what about danny doesnt he deserve the tmz treatment.... no because hes a classy guy according to bill.... (frank) that he hasnt done poop in the last two years.

This season's definitely been strange. With 48-games, the Flyers don't have a chance to dig themselves out of their usual early/mid-season doldrums, Kovalchuk goes down and NJ falls out of the picture, and teams like TOR and MIN who usually collapse come spring are still in the PO position.

I'd just really hesitate to make rash decisions based on this anomaly of a season if I were Homer/Snider.
- Tomahawk

agreed

He hasn't been a big part on the ice for a couple seasons now. showing up in two playoff series isn't two whole seasons, as in playoffs AND regular season.
- JoeRussomanno

Ok, we disagree, that's fine. But you don't have to emulate the Richardish 'Bryz blasting' rhetoric that's been mentioned.

This season's definitely been strange. With 48-games, the Flyers don't have a chance to dig themselves out of their usual early/mid-season doldrums, Kovalchuk goes down and NJ falls out of the picture, and teams like TOR and MIN who usually collapse come spring are still in the PO position.

I'd just really hesitate to make rash decisions based on this anomaly of a season if I were Homer/Snider.
- Tomahawk

Ill give you this, out of all the defend lavy arguments I've listened to this one is the most persuading. However bringing him back just feels like doing the same thing expecting different results.

more t swift time
- Don'tForgetTocchet

2tru

I'd rather not mindlessly 'blast' anybody, personally. Why let that kind of posting set the standard?
- BulliesPhan87

Stop being reasonable!
Y U NO ASSLEEP?

Look at their record. While the PP put up big numbers, far too frequently it was silent when it mattered.
- Scoob

I'm not sure what your point is here...

bill started this tmz poop yesterday.....what about danny doesnt he deserve the tmz treatment.... no because hes a classy guy according to bill.... (frank) that he hasnt done poop in the last two years.
- Philly1980

I don't think anybody 'deserves' that treatment. How about, instead of 'why doesn't Player X get that treatment?', we make the question 'why does Player Y get that treatment?'

This season's definitely been strange. With 48-games, the Flyers don't have a chance to dig themselves out of their usual early/mid-season doldrums, Kovalchuk goes down and NJ falls out of the picture, and teams like TOR and MIN who usually collapse come spring are still in the PO position.

I'd just really hesitate to make rash decisions based on this anomaly of a season if I were Homer/Snider.
- Tomahawk

So this is an asterisk season?

ducks and covers

Those sound like words that the run Bryz out of town crowd uses.
- Scoob

Yeah

So this is an asterisk season?

ducks and covers
- Scoob

This season's definitely been strange. With 48-games, the Flyers don't have a chance to dig themselves out of their usual early/mid-season doldrums, Kovalchuk goes down and NJ falls out of the picture, and teams like TOR and MIN who usually collapse come spring are still in the PO position.

I'd just really hesitate to make rash decisions based on this anomaly of a season if I were Homer/Snider.
- Tomahawk

its not a slump.... their play style has completely changed, and forced to change due to the injuries.... im sorry lavy has got to go. im not dealing with the same poop next year...personally im loving the tough checking defensively responsible game they are being forced to play now.

Ok, we disagree, that's fine. But you don't have to emulate the Richardish 'Bryz blasting' rhetoric that's been mentioned.
- BulliesPhan87

sometimes I like to embellish to make a point. I can't help it and usually try to restrain it however emotion kinda took over today.

In my own defense, I tried giving briere a chance. And no I was not on that bandwagon from day one, more like on the fence. But it's become evident to me over a period of 2 years his flaws out weigh his positives. In contrast to the bryz haters they haven't given him a chance since day one. Furthermore as i mentioned with the Carter haters, which is far more relevant, they arbitrarily don't bash Briere for the same poop carter was guilty of and he was a bit of a developing player when he left.

I don't think anybody 'deserves' that treatment. How about, instead of 'why doesn't Player X get that treatment?', we make the question 'why does Player Y get that treatment?'
- BulliesPhan87

no they dont....it wasnt right for bill to single out bryz like that, i just called him on it thats all....

In addition to Briere, Bryz, Lavi, Carter, and Carle, I think some blame also has to be assigned to the following people:

Timonen - next year's $6M cap hit has something to do with this seaon's performance somehow.

God - clearly hates healthy Flyers' defensemen.

Jaroslav Modry - I think he's still trying to build up the speed necessary to get off the ice after the 2008 Caps series.

Satan - clearly favors the Devils whenever they play us

Adam Sandler - his movies have really taken a dive the last 10 years or so.

I'm not sure what your point is here...
- wolfhounds

That the PP put up big numbers when it didn't matter, i.e., padded the stats in games that were blow-outs, etc. I'd rather have a mid-level PP that scores when it matters, such as the third period of a tied game.

Ill give you this, out of all the defend lavy arguments I've listened to this one is the most persuading. However bringing him back just feels like doing the same thing expecting different results.
- JoeRussomanno

As I mentioned yesterday, the Flyers have pretty much tried everything in the past 40 years... except for being patient with what they have, including staff.

Doesn't it always feel like they're always taking one step forward, one step back with all the splashy acquisitions, hirings/firings, identity swaps? So what if this team doesn't have a Shea Weber, or a Lundqvist, or doesn't turtle into defensive shell in all three zones... it doesn't mean they can't grow into ridiculously good team given some time to come together.

its not a slump.... their play style has completely changed, and forced to change due to the injuries.... im sorry lavy has got to go. im not dealing with the same poop next year...personally im loving the tough checking defensively responsible game they are being forced to play now.
- Philly1980

My opinion is that Holmgren is going to keep both Lavi and Bryz next season with a line in the sand saying that if either screws up they are gone.
Lavi has to adjust to our competitors who've been spanking us the last few seasons. And Bryz needs to improve his numbers and prove that he is the goalie for us with a more defensive system in place.
And they better frelling work together cuz if one falters they both will...

In addition to Briere, Bryz, Lavi, Carter, and Carle, I think some blame also has to be assigned to the following people:

Timonen - next year's $6M cap hit has something to do with this seaon's performance somehow.

God - clearly hates healthy Flyers' defensemen.

Jaroslav Modry - I think he's still trying to build up the speed necessary to get off the ice after the 2008 Caps series.

Satan - clearly favors the Devils whenever they play us

Adam Sandler - his movies have really taken a dive the last 10 years or so.
- jmatchett383

That the PP put up big numbers when it didn't matter, i.e., padded the stats in games that were blow-outs, etc. I'd rather have a mid-level PP that scores when it matters, such as the third period of a tied game.
- Scoob

So Lavi/Mullen need one PP plan for when it doesn't matter, and another PP plan for third periods and tied games?

So this is an asterisk season?

ducks and covers
- Scoob

Ohhh, I remember that conversation...