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2raven2
New York Islanders
Location: Brooks, AB
Joined: 02.09.2013

Apr 26 @ 11:43 PM ET
Most of those points came within the last 4 weeks. If you look at the rest of the season it's the same Islanders we always see. I think the DP demotion was the start of the "good times" and that lifted the team quite a bit because in my opinion it showed the team that management finally cared. That's how I saw it anyway. But again if you take out the run they had over the past 4 weeks you get the same Islanders we've always had.

And we will see that "same Islanders" next week come playoff time as well.

Think about this we had to go on an unbelievable run, one of the best in Islanders history, and we'll make it into the playoffs by a point.

- kencan98

So what will make you happy? Do the islanders need to go from 60 pts in a season to 100 pts for you to see that they are improving. I for one is damn proud that I got to see this unbelievable run. Furthermore I've seen it time and again that teams that fight to get to the playoffs like we did, was our playoffs. I sure we got nothing left the last 3 games. We need couple days off and rest. I GURANTEE the islanders will be put up a fight whom ever they face in the first round.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:43 PM ET
Definately not!!!

I see the old Isles fans are back!!!

- jimmc7722



We never left.

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:43 PM ET
I still have faith in them!!! BeLieve
- mighty13duck



I have faith in them also... always have.

XxNYIXX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:45 PM ET
So what will make you happy? Do the islanders need to go from 60 pts in a season to 100 pts for you to see that they are improving. I for one is damn proud that I got to see this unbelievable run. Furthermore I've seen it time and again that teams that fight to get to the playoffs like we did, was our playoffs. I sure we got nothing left the last 3 games. We need couple days off and rest. I GURANTEE the islanders will be put up a fight whom ever they face in the first round.
- 2raven2



I asked this before on the other board... they played 48 games... why do they need a rest to bad? What would happen if it was a full 82 game season?? Would they need a few weeks off before the playoffs?

XxNYIxX
2raven2
New York Islanders
Location: Brooks, AB
Joined: 02.09.2013

Apr 26 @ 11:56 PM ET
I asked this before on the other board... they played 48 games... why do they need a rest to bad? What would happen if it was a full 82 game season?? Would they need a few weeks off before the playoffs?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Lol I see what your saying and agree with you. However the islanders have never played this hard before " battle level" they will be ready!!!!
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 27 @ 12:00 AM ET
I asked this before on the other board... they played 48 games... why do they need a rest to bad? What would happen if it was a full 82 game season?? Would they need a few weeks off before the playoffs?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



Says the guy sitting on his couch watching the games
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Apr 27 @ 12:20 AM ET
I asked this before on the other board... they played 48 games... why do they need a rest to bad? What would happen if it was a full 82 game season?? Would they need a few weeks off before the playoffs?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


A condensed schedule would do that... other teams sit their players all the time.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Apr 27 @ 12:34 AM ET
Great season guys. Gl in rd 1
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:24 AM ET
Where did you think this team would end up at the start of the season? Now I know this is Hockeybuzz so your answer will be "We'd end up in 8th place with 55 points, play the Penguins and Tavares will get 28 goals". But if anyone feels like a little honesty, where did you put this team in January?

The team got hot and went on a run. Nothing more, nothing less. That run is the reason why we are where we are. The entire season as a whole was not good at all and over an 82 game season we miss the playoffs. Now we are going to play the Pens and get swept. I don't view that as a success after a 5 year rebuild.

- kencan98

I personally gave us a shot at the playoffs at the beginning of the season, whereas based on your hopeless negativity and tunnel vision perspective you probably thought we would be first to the podium. Two weeks ago you were suddenly championing this team just like the rest of us but now you're going to claim it was a mirage and you knew it all along. You're so desperate to scream from roof tops that your a cut above everyone else yet you demonstrate no common knowledge of the game. Your favorite talking points are repeated over and over yet are supported with nofundamental substantial information other than shallow comparisons to the failures of the past.
You have no reason to watch the team so why bother? You already know the results based on the 2009 Islanders
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Apr 27 @ 1:25 AM ET
Great season guys. Gl in rd 1
- Slimtj100


Looks like you guys chased Brodeur from the net before the puck even dropped!


“If it meant something, I was going to play, but it doesn’t.

“Getting booed for two hours for no reason, I don’t know if I was really up for it. If it meant something, I didn’t mind.”
gaf92
New York Islanders
Location: Wendell, NC
Joined: 01.15.2011

Apr 27 @ 1:34 AM ET
Looks like you guys chased Brodeur from the net before the puck even dropped!


“If it meant something, I was going to play, but it doesn’t.

“Getting booed for two hours for no reason, I don’t know if I was really up for it. If it meant something, I didn’t mind.”

- UIF



If that's a real quote...that is awful. I thought he was more of a professional. That wouldn't want to make me play at all as his teammate. Maybe its a good thing Hedberg will play then.
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 27 @ 2:25 AM ET
I personally gave us a shot at the playoffs at the beginning of the season, whereas based on your hopeless negativity and tunnel vision perspective you probably thought we would be first to the podium. Two weeks ago you were suddenly championing this team just like the rest of us but now you're going to claim it was a mirage and you knew it all along. You're so desperate to scream from roof tops that your a cut above everyone else yet you demonstrate no common knowledge of the game. Your favorite talking points are repeated over and over yet are supported with nofundamental substantial information other than shallow comparisons to the failures of the past.
You have no reason to watch the team so why bother? You already know the results based on the 2009 Islanders

- keaner17


I never "championed" anyone or any team. What I said was (and always is) based on what I see when I watch. If they play well, they play well. If they don't, they don't. If you go back and look at my posts you'll see that after the Jets game I posted that it was the worst game I've seen in a month and that they will be riding a losing streak into the playoffs. That was pretty much right on.

Before the Flyers game I said that they could sit Nabby for the last two games and if they played like they did over the past 4 weeks they'd win easily. We didn't see that "run" team though. We saw the real Islanders and it showed.

Based on what I've seen since this "rebuild" has started, this looks to me like a team that had a good few weeks and now is back to reality. I don't see any difference at all. Yes we have the "prospects" but the same could be said when we drafted all the other prospects. I know these prospects are "different" but so were the other ones.

They made the playoffs, will now see a first round exit, Nabby, Streit, Boyes are gone and we will be in "rebuild part 2" next year with AHL goalies and AHL tryouts throughout our roster. We will sign a UFA or 2 that is either pushing 40 or is some other teams garbage and we will probably be pushing for a playoff spot again next year and either barely making it or out of it before the end of March.

That's just based off of what I've seen and the recent history of this team. And in order for me to "believe" I have to see something more than a playoff spot and a first round exit. Make it to the conference finals or the cup and I'll believe.
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 27 @ 2:27 AM ET
Says the guy sitting on his couch watching the games
- Vukota


Says the guy sitting on the couch who is making $40,000 a year at a job he hates. Give that guy the same salary to play hockey and I bet he shows up every game and plays his heart out without worrying about "rest".
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 27 @ 2:31 AM ET
So what will make you happy? Do the islanders need to go from 60 pts in a season to 100 pts for you to see that they are improving. I for one is damn proud that I got to see this unbelievable run. Furthermore I've seen it time and again that teams that fight to get to the playoffs like we did, was our playoffs. I sure we got nothing left the last 3 games. We need couple days off and rest. I GURANTEE the islanders will be put up a fight whom ever they face in the first round.
- 2raven2


It's an unbelievable run. And that's my point. They had a historic run and made it in by a point. Before the run they were the Islanders. Now since the Jets game, they are back to being the Islanders. Based on the season as a whole, the Islanders would be lucky to have a lead in one game against the Penguins. They are just a better team up and down the roster. And they aren't an "on paper" team either. They actually play the game well together as a group.

I really hope I'm wrong but based on the season it's hard to believe that I will be.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Apr 27 @ 6:11 AM ET
I gave them a shot at the playoffs in the beginning of the season too, provided they played the way they did for the last six weeks prior to the last three games, EVERY NIGHT. Again, it's a simple game- when you make it difficult, it becomes difficult.

Chip it in, chase it, forecheck, make sure at least two are always behind the play for the counter. Stand up at the blue line, get in the shooting lanes, block passes and shots. Make sure of nothing more than you work harder than the other team at all times. Have the discipline to do the same thing, every night. When they were doing that, they were winning EVERY GAME, save one here and there. That's how good this team CAN be.

The problem is that they're still young, and yes, WE have to remember that, but I also STILL think they have the wrong coach. I've been trying to figure out what I really think is wrong with Capuano, and that's it- it's not the system or his ability to motivate, or anything like that. It's that kids NEED to be kicked in the a$$ once in a while when they lose their way, and that's just not who he is.

If he was coaching a veteran team of good players, he'd probably win a Cup, because he treats them all like adults and lets them do their thing. The problem with kids (as any who have them know ) is that sometimes their "thing" is to be stupid- like thinking clinching a playoff berth is an excuse to pat themselves on the back. If Pittsburgh and Chicago thought that way, they'd also be 6-7 games over .500, instead of dominating the sport.

That's the issue with Capuano- with a coach like Arbour, Jacques Lemaire, Mike Keenan, Tortorella, etc., there's no way they'd have followed up Thursday night's performance with the first period (AGAIN!) that they played last night. NO WAY, because they'd know, playoff berth notwithstanding, that every shift was an audition for their own job, and they'd play that way.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Apr 27 @ 6:20 AM ET
Based on the season as a whole, the Islanders would be lucky to have a lead in one game against the Penguins. They are just a better team up and down the roster. And they aren't an "on paper" team either. They actually play the game well together as a group.
- kencan98


As I said in the other thread, without Crosby they're only as good as the next eight or so talented teams in the league, and yet they still win every night, because they WANT TO WIN more than the other team does. That's the whole point- if you want to win a Stanley Cup, nothing else can ever be good enough. NOTHING ELSE. EVER. PERIOD. That's what these kids need to learn.

Luckily, you can see that guys like JT and Martin are pi$$ed at themselves for what happened the last couple of nights, so I believe that eventually this WILL sink in, unlike with the team that had guys like Hamrlik and Blake, who only cared about their coin, and Yashin, who didn't seem to care about anything. I don't think we're going to have that problem here, and in a couple of years this team will be a lot deeper and a lot more talented than that one ever was. I just have a feeling that if the Rag$ beat NJ today, our boys are in for a four game, "welcome to the National Hockey League" tutorial from the guys in black and gold.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:22 AM ET
I never "championed" anyone or any team. What I said was (and always is) based on what I see when I watch. If they play well, they play well. If they don't, they don't. If you go back and look at my posts you'll see that after the Jets game I posted that it was the worst game I've seen in a month and that they will be riding a losing streak into the playoffs. That was pretty much right on.

Before the Flyers game I said that they could sit Nabby for the last two games and if they played like they did over the past 4 weeks they'd win easily. We didn't see that "run" team though. We saw the real Islanders and it showed.

Based on what I've seen since this "rebuild" has started, this looks to me like a team that had a good few weeks and now is back to reality. I don't see any difference at all. Yes we have the "prospects" but the same could be said when we drafted all the other prospects. I know these prospects are "different" but so were the other ones.

They made the playoffs, will now see a first round exit, Nabby, Streit, Boyes are gone and we will be in "rebuild part 2" next year with AHL goalies and AHL tryouts throughout our roster. We will sign a UFA or 2 that is either pushing 40 or is some other teams garbage and we will probably be pushing for a playoff spot again next year and either barely making it or out of it before the end of March.

That's just based off of what I've seen and the recent history of this team. And in order for me to "believe" I have to see something more than a playoff spot and a first round exit. Make it to the conference finals or the cup and I'll believe.

- kencan98

You also said the only thing that keeps us from being even with Boston in the standings was the coach and the backup. But now you say this team is no different than the last four years. You were right there with everyone else saying this team was much better but now you're going to tweak history to show you saw this all coming. Hell, you said two weeks ago that you thought Garth has done a pretty good job. But now we haven't improved from four years ago. Youve jumped on and now off the bandwagon, fine but don't act as though you've been expecting the carriage to return to a pumpkin all along. The team is tired, the grind of the season has worn them down and the coaches cashed in the last two games. I think you'll see them get back to playing tight once the real show begins.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Apr 27 @ 8:24 AM ET
I never "championed" anyone or any team. What I said was (and always is) based on what I see when I watch. If they play well, they play well. If they don't, they don't. If you go back and look at my posts you'll see that after the Jets game I posted that it was the worst game I've seen in a month and that they will be riding a losing streak into the playoffs. That was pretty much right on.
- kencan98

Oh, I get it. You're one of those so-called fans who'd rather be right, than see the team win?
The part I bolded, that's some real head crushing analysis there. Real meat and potatoes type poop.
I don't get why you care so much considering you said, yourself, you wouldn't spend a dime on the team until they're good again (always the sign of a real fan) and the fact you post your negative drivel night in and night out. You care an awful lot, I'd say.
Like I said yesterday, find a happy medium. There's not one "regular" who posts in the Isles threads who doesn't know hockey and know, as Isles fans, we've been through a lot with Wang and co. and it has mostly sucked. Even you Ken. Enjoy the now.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:39 AM ET
That was my point. I don't know where capt was coming up with his tiebreak scenarios.
2 points would have at least made the Rangers win tomorrow.

- potvin05

My bad
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:40 AM ET
Oh, I get it. You're one of those so-called fans who'd rather be right, than see the team win?
The part I bolded, that's some real head crushing analysis there. Real meat and potatoes type poop.
I don't get why you care so much considering you said, yourself, you wouldn't spend a dime on the team until they're good again (always the sign of a real fan) and the fact you post your negative drivel night in and night out. You care an awful lot, I'd say.
Like I said yesterday, find a happy medium. There's not one "regular" who posts in the Isles threads who doesn't know hockey and know, as Isles fans, we've been through a lot with Wang and co. and it has mostly sucked. Even you Ken. Enjoy the now.

- potvin05

You guys are still going? Do we have a new cptmjl/LetsGoIsles?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:41 AM ET
Where did you think this team would end up at the start of the season? Now I know this is Hockeybuzz so your answer will be "We'd end up in 8th place with 55 points, play the Penguins and Tavares will get 28 goals". But if anyone feels like a little honesty, where did you put this team in January?

The team got hot and went on a run. Nothing more, nothing less. That run is the reason why we are where we are. The entire season as a whole was not good at all and over an 82 game season we miss the playoffs. Now we are going to play the Pens and get swept. I don't view that as a success after a 5 year rebuild.

- kencan98

See that's where you're wrong. The only person on here that I can recall thinking we'd make the playoffs was X and he did say the eighth seed, clearly remember that.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:42 AM ET
Correct. Gotta hope they really clean up their play at both blue lines no matter who they play. I imagine the intensity will be there again...not too worried about that to be honest. But I hope the bad neutral zone decisions we've seen recently go away again.
- UIF

That makes one of us.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:43 AM ET
Should have been traded

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:47 AM ET
Its HUGE progress, to play that much better while you have 1 player bringing down your whole 1st line & making perfect passes to the other team on a regular basis!!

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

so true!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:48 AM ET
But we were good enough to go on a run. Thats how teams make playoffs. The team was incapable of going on a run in previous seasons. thats the difference.
- Dedshark

Exactly
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