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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 27 @ 3:33 PM ET
I would definitely like to see more of him. He sounds quite promising from all the sippets I've seen. Runs the PP efficiently, logs heavy minutes in all situations, and is a very good skater.

Wasn't there a story about Renberg saying the Flyers contacted him about Hagg a few months back? Could be a good sign the intend on holding onto that 2nd rounder, if not intending to move up with it...

- hereticpride


Bill mentioned that a few pages back. I have watched as much as I could of those who made the CHL playoffs in each league but I'm a big fan of the OHL so I've watched a ton of that these playoffs.

I also go online to fine what I can even if it's a highlight package so I at least have an idea on a player.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 27 @ 3:37 PM ET
There are question marks with every prospect. I entertain all scenarios as a GM and try not to lean one way or the other on any of them because something may turn up that's best for the team now & long term.

I'm just suggesting I don't give away the pick for the sake of moving down. I put it out there that yes I'd listen to offers but at the same time let the league know if they want to make an offer make it worthy my time to listen.

- ob18


There's also the possibility of moving "unwanted" bulk for draft picks. would it be possible, if even only for a 4th/5th, to move Briere? That way we could save the buyout, and atleast get something out of it, even if only minuscule. We could also "upgrade" our 2nd rounder potentially, by trading it + Coburn or Mez for an early 20s pick, although I would like to see Coburn moved in a deal acquiring Yandle.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 27 @ 3:39 PM ET
There's also the possibility of moving "unwanted" bulk for draft picks. would it be possible, if even only for a 4th/5th, to move Briere? That way we could save the buyout, and atleast get something out of it, even if only minuscule. We could also "upgrade" our 2nd rounder potentially, by trading it + Coburn or Mez for an early 20s pick, although I would like to see Coburn moved in a deal acquiring Yandle.
- JAKEw1234


You could always try to move a Briere for a middle round selection. I wonder how that will work being the buyout period is probably going to happen while the finals are going on.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 27 @ 4:41 PM ET
thoughts on drafting barkley?
ob18
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Apr 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
thoughts on drafting barkley?
- 2Real


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Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Apr 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
thoughts on drafting barkley?
- 2Real


Probably means Foles is gone because I'm sure Chip Kelley feels that he is the right coach to make Vick finally able to read defenses and use checkdowns after 13 years in the league. Seems like every coach Vick has is that girlfriend who thinks that she can change the boyfriend.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 27 @ 4:54 PM ET
Probably means Foles is gone because I'm sure Chip Kelley feels that he is the right coach to make Vick finally able to read defenses and use checkdowns after 13 years in the league. Seems like every coach Vick has is that girlfriend who thinks that she can change the boyfriend.
- Flyers_01


It doesn't mean Foles is gone at all, if they wanted to move him the time was well before the draft and he is still here.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Apr 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
Kimmo/Schenn
Grossmann/Mezaros
Coburn/Gustafsson
Gervais/Huskins
Lauridsen/Pronger


That's a lot of NHL defenders.
going to be curious to see who plays next year.
Injuries cost the Flyers the playoffs this year.

- Winning


Pronger will probably live out on LTIR or the whole "trying to get better" is Homer justifying his LTIR until he can take him off and buy him out over the summer. Lauridson will go back to AHL and remain first call up. Huskins won't be resigned (I like him but we are full on D (when healthy) and he'll also cost us a 7th pick so... probably not)

Leaving us with
Kimmo/Schenn
Coburn/Grossman
Meszaros/Gus
Gervais

The only D that has truly graduated to the Flyers is Gus. Playing with poise at 25 minute mark, he should be considered a Full time flyer by next camp. Bourdon might stick around for next year as an 8th. And if we get a Yandle or Carlson, expect Coburn or Mez to be going the other way to balance the budget.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
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- ob18

i don't get to watch much college football would he be a player for kelley's system? does that mean one of vick or fowels isn't in the long run plans?>
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 27 @ 5:08 PM ET
Pronger will probably live out on LTIR or the whole "trying to get better" is Homer justifying his LTIR until he can take him off and buy him out over the summer. Lauridson will go back to AHL and remain first call up. Huskins won't be resigned (I like him but we are full on D (when healthy) and he'll also cost us a 7th pick so... probably not)

Leaving us with
Kimmo/Schenn
Coburn/Grossman
Meszaros/Gus
Gervais

The only D that has truly graduated to the Flyers is Gus. Playing with poise at 25 minute mark, he should be considered a Full time flyer by next camp. Bourdon might stick around for next year as an 8th. And if we get a Yandle or Carlson, expect Coburn or Mez to be going the other way to balance the budget.

- flyler


If the Flyers do acquire John Carlson, I will spend a whole month paying homage to Odin.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
If the Flyers do acquire John Carlson, I will spend a whole month paying homage to Odin.
- jmatchett383


Idk where that came from I've seen his name mentioned a bunch today, what is that all about? He won't come cheap.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Apr 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
i don't get to watch much college football would he be a player for kelley's system? does that mean one of vick or fowels isn't in the long run plans?>
- 2Real

It depends on what kind of offense hr decides to run here. At oregon his qbs were mobile and it made sense incorporating their speed into the offense. But he was also successful at new hampshire with pure pocket passers.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
It depends on what kind of offense hr decides to run here. At oregon his qbs were mobile and it made sense incorporating their speed into the offense. But he was also successful at new hampshire with pure pocket passers.
- fecondo


The biggest thing with him is the quickness that he runs his offense. Which might be good for Vick to get in a rhythm. Barkley isn't a bad athlete, but he definitely is more of a pocket passer. I'm curious to see how Chip Kelly is going to run his offense in the NFL. I think he's had a pretty good draft so far.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 27 @ 5:21 PM ET
Not going to argue here or anything, but if the Flyers could get a 2nd round pick for Coburn that would be a pretty good deal imo.
- flyer_nutter


That's a a terrible deal.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 27 @ 5:22 PM ET
The biggest thing with him is the quickness that he runs his offense. Which might be good for Vick to get in a rhythm. Barkley isn't a bad athlete, but he definitely is more of a pocket passer. I'm curious to see how Chip Kelly is going to run his offense in the NFL. I think he's had a pretty good draft so far.
- GirouxForTheShow

i haven't looked at every player yet but it seems he's changing things up a bit
kelly likes the no huddle offense so yea i agree that gives vick an advantage but with the terrible o line we've had wouldn't vick get injured very easily
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 27 @ 5:23 PM ET
Pronger will probably live out on LTIR or the whole "trying to get better" is Homer justifying his LTIR until he can take him off and buy him out over the summer. Lauridson will go back to AHL and remain first call up. Huskins won't be resigned (I like him but we are full on D (when healthy) and he'll also cost us a 7th pick so... probably not)

Leaving us with
Kimmo/Schenn
Coburn/Grossman
Meszaros/Gus
Gervais

The only D that has truly graduated to the Flyers is Gus. Playing with poise at 25 minute mark, he should be considered a Full time flyer by next camp. Bourdon might stick around for next year as an 8th. And if we get a Yandle or Carlson, expect Coburn or Mez to be going the other way to balance the budget.

- flyler


Buying out Pronger is a waste of a buyout. He understands his situation, he understands is low likelihood of coming back better than anyone. He understands his age, and he understands the burden his contract is to the team. He's a class guy, and I think if Homer nudged him towards retirement, he would probably do it. I think bringing back a nearly identical defense doesn't solve anything for us, either. Thats almost the exact defense that took us out of competition early on. Mez and Coburn both need to go, I think. If we could get Carlson, or Goligoski, or Shattenkirk, or heck even Pietrangelo (As much as that isn't going to happen), then our defense will be better off, even with Lauri and Gus holding down the 3rd pair.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 27 @ 5:25 PM ET
i haven't looked at every player yet but it seems he's changing things up a bit
kelly likes the no huddle offense so yea i agree that gives vick an advantage but with the terrible o line we've had wouldn't vick get injured very easily

- 2Real


Lane Johnson is a stud, I think that was a huge pick-up. Granted, he doesn't single-handily shore up the O Line, but he certainly helps.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 27 @ 5:26 PM ET
Lane Johnson is a stud, I think that was a huge pick-up. Granted, he doesn't single-handily shore up the O Line, but he certainly helps.
- GirouxForTheShow

every time i hear that name i think of the rock
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 27 @ 5:30 PM ET
every time i hear that name i think of the rock
- 2Real


Do you smell what D-LANE is cooking?

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 27 @ 5:31 PM ET
Do you smell what D-LANE is cooking?


- GirouxForTheShow

DocEmrickVocab
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.04.2013

Apr 27 @ 5:32 PM ET
Thoughts on targeting Clarkson this summer?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 27 @ 5:35 PM ET
So with the Flyers not in this year, who will all of you ladies be cheering for if you are going to be cheering for anyone at all?
- idiotsallofu

Since this was directed to me. I'll be cheering for anyone playing the Penguins and Columbus.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 27 @ 5:36 PM ET
Thoughts on targeting Clarkson this summer?
- DocEmrickVocab

Meh, why not? I think we'll be needing a 3rd line winger so if we can get him for a fairly reasonable price.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 27 @ 5:36 PM ET
Since this was directed to me. I'll be cheering for anyone playing the Penguins and Columbus.
- FlyersGrace

Why Columbus?
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Apr 27 @ 5:41 PM ET
Lane Johnson is a stud, I think that was a huge pick-up. Granted, he doesn't single-handily shore up the O Line, but he certainly helps.
- GirouxForTheShow

Draftinh Johnson and gettimg Peters back is a huge boost to their o-line
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