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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 29 @ 11:13 PM ET
He's 21. One of the things inherent in such a young player is physical inferiority to the veterans in the league. That can manifest itself in being pushed around by bigger, stronger players. Schenn has proven can be dominant against competition closer to his age bracket, but not yet in the NHL against "men". The margin of difference should close over the next few years as he reaches peak physical maturity and development. That's when we'll know what we really have in B. Schenn imo.
- exlund

Just want to say this, since you didn't directly do so. Not saying your post wasn't rock solid, because it was- but just as a bit of reinforcement I'll say the following:

This season was Schenn's first full season with the big boys, if I'm correct.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 29 @ 11:14 PM ET
your points are reasonable, but i'm mostly not in agreement.
- isaiah520




fair enough. not trying to change your mind. just stating my case.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 29 @ 11:15 PM ET
saw this on twitter the other day. love it. love it. love it.
- hammarby31

(frank)in sexy man. Wow
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 29 @ 11:17 PM ET
It doesn't count against the cap at all. A regular buyout counts against the cap for the entire time the team is paying it off.

For example, Alexei Yashin is the Isles 5th highest paid forward, against the cap.

- Jsaquella

jesus then bryz or briere shouldn't give 2 poops about being bought out they could easily make up that money back
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:17 PM ET


fair enough. not trying to change your mind. just stating my case.

- hammarby31

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 29 @ 11:18 PM ET
The Flyers ended up with the pick they had a 96% chance of getting? Fixed
- Jsaquella

meh just lashing out over the ache my eyes received on a regular basis over the past two months reading about tanking to win the stupid draft lottery.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:18 PM ET
jesus then bryz or briere shouldn't give 2 poops about being bought out they could easily make up that money back
- 2Real


Yeah, I don't see anyone saying that they'd be really upset about getting bought out...maybe Briere since he's got the family custody issue.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 29 @ 11:19 PM ET
jesus then bryz or briere shouldn't give 2 poops about being bought out they could easily make up that money back
- 2Real

its about pride and accomplishing a goal they set out to do: win the stanley cup for the team that signed them to that big contract.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 29 @ 11:19 PM ET
Yeah, I don't see anyone saying that they'd be really upset about getting bought out...maybe Briere since he's got the family custody issue.
- Jsaquella

just sign with the devils/isles/rangers
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 29 @ 11:20 PM ET
its about pride and accomplishing a goal they set out to do: win the stanley cup for the team that signed them to that big contract.
- JoeRussomanno

yea we'll like anything in life poop happens
i wish i could be a multi-millionaire but it aint happening
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 29 @ 11:24 PM ET
yea we'll like anything in life poop happens
i wish i could be a multi-millionaire but it aint happening

- 2Real

it doesn't mean one doesn't try or maintain a desire to accomplish what they set out to do in face of great adversity.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:24 PM ET
yea we'll like anything in life poop happens
i wish i could be a multi-millionaire but it aint happening

- 2Real

but, you've got to play to win
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 29 @ 11:29 PM ET
Yeah, I don't see anyone saying that they'd be really upset about getting bought out...maybe Briere since he's got the family custody issue.
- Jsaquella

it really is a win win scenario for each guy in terms of money but I believe hockey players in general have a substantial amount of desire for the glory.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 29 @ 11:30 PM ET
it really is a win win scenario for each guy in terms of money but I believe hockey players in general have a substantial amount of desire for the glory.
- JoeRussomanno

they sure won a lot of glory this year
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 29 @ 11:32 PM ET
they sure won a lot of glory this year
- 2Real

I'm sure they are disappointed
FrankDrebbin
Location: PA
Joined: 02.27.2012

Apr 29 @ 11:33 PM ET
Interesting to see if Tampa would be willing to trade down since they will probably be targeting a dman.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Apr 29 @ 11:38 PM ET
Interesting to see if Tampa would be willing to trade down since they will probably be targeting a dman.
- FrankDrebbin


"Well when I see 5 weirdos dressed in togas stabbing a guy in the middle of the park in full view of 100 people, I shoot the bastards, that's my policy"
FrankDrebbin
Location: PA
Joined: 02.27.2012

Apr 29 @ 11:42 PM ET
"Well when I see 5 weirdos dressed in togas stabbing a guy in the middle of the park in full view of 100 people, I shoot the bastards, that's my policy"
- FlyerMike18


You killed 5 actors.... Good ones
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 29 @ 11:46 PM ET
IMO, if not for the wrist injury this season, Pulock would have been the consensus top D after Jones. Still had a good year on a bad team. Tied for team scoring lead despite missing 11 games. He's not bad defensively. Skates well. Not especially physical, but that's OK.
- bmeltzer


With the run on D last year I have my doubts he will be available but if he is I would be very happy with that selection. I have seen him from 8th-18th. I love picking players that have slide due to injury (or mono!). Leadership, plays both sides of the puck, not overly physical but has #1 D PP potential. 2-3 years out so not an immediate help but could be vital when he is.

On the Bryz stuff. I am sick of hearing about it. Let him play one more season and then buy him out (pretty much no matter what unless he is phenomenal) and only due to Homers terrible contract- aka not really Bryz's fault.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 29 @ 11:50 PM ET
Also here is my wish list for the first round:

W:
Isle
OTT
WSH
BOS
STL
SJ
ANH
MIN

A lot if upsets there but that would be my ideal winners in the 1st round, very entertaining.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Apr 30 @ 12:06 AM ET
Yeah, I don't see anyone saying that they'd be really upset about getting bought out...maybe Briere since he's got the family custody issue.
- Jsaquella


The Briere family deal is a bit played imo publicly, the guy was playing in Germany at start of season and had there been a lockout would have all season. And listening to a bite from a interview earlier he was asked if he would waive his NTC and his response was "they havent approached me to". So that would tell me he isnt necessarily against being traded.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 30 @ 12:08 AM ET
You killed 5 actors.... Good ones
- FrankDrebbin

Sexual assault with a concrete dildo?!?!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:12 AM ET
The Briere family deal is a bit played imo publicly, the guy was playing in Germany at start of season and had there been a lockout would have all season. And listening to a bite from a interview earlier he was asked if he would waive his NTC and his response was "they havent approached me to". So that would tell me he isnt necessarily against being traded.
- flyerfan28

if he would waive the ntc that would be huge for this team and open up possibilities. If so I think Homer would have to take a long hard look at who is a candidate for amnesty.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 30 @ 12:18 AM ET
if he would waive the ntc that would be huge for this team and open up possibilities. If so I think Homer would have to take a long hard look at who is a candidate for amnesty.
- JoeRussomanno

Suck as?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 30 @ 12:27 AM ET
Sexual assault with a concrete dildo?!?!
- KINGKENZO

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