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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 1 @ 10:02 PM ET


Just what we need.

- hereticpride


If its his size that they are looking for, why not just go for Zadorov or one of he other big d prospects that are ranked much higher.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
If its his size that they are looking for, why not just go for Zadorov or one of he other big d prospects that are ranked much higher.
- MBFlyerfan

Maybe they're looking at him in the 2nd round? I know they went off the board last year with Laughton but you don't take this kid at 11.And I hope they dont trade back. Take the best D man at 11 and be happy with what you got.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
If its his size that they are looking for, why not just go for Zadorov or one of he other big d prospects that are ranked much higher.
- MBFlyerfan



That's too much common sense.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 1 @ 10:07 PM ET
Then again, even though the Flyers need more defensive prospects, because of their draft policy I have to ask, what makes everyone so sure they'll even draft a defense man?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 1 @ 10:07 PM ET
Take the best D man at 11 and be happy with what you got.
- hereticpride


I can't wait for a repeat of last summer's never-ending Maata rants when they go for a forward @11.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 1 @ 10:08 PM ET
I can't wait for a repeat of last summer's never-ending Maata rants when they go for a forward @11.
- Tomahawk

If they draft a forward they'd better be announcing a trade at the same time.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 1 @ 10:09 PM ET
Then again, even though the Flyers need more defensive prospects, because of their draft policy I have to ask, what makes everyone so sure they'll even draft a defense man?
- JAKEw1234



You are correct. The best player available scenario is definitely in play.
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

May 1 @ 10:09 PM ET
Then again, even though the Flyers need more defensive prospects, because of their draft policy I have to ask, what makes everyone so sure they'll even draft a defense man?
- JAKEw1234


It depends on how the cards fall. They'll take the BPA at 11, regardless of position.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
I can't wait for a repeat of last summer's never-ending Maata rants when they go for a forward @11.
- Tomahawk


No fan should fall in love with any 1 player. Plenty good will be available when they select.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 1 @ 10:12 PM ET
Then again, even though the Flyers need more defensive prospects, because of their draft policy I have to ask, what makes everyone so sure they'll even draft a defense man?
- JAKEw1234


They need prospects period not just a specific position. Our system depth is not exactly deep. It's likely focused on a d-man because the last one we can say we develop now helps call games on the radio & it's been a real sore spot.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 1 @ 10:14 PM ET
Because I don't want to give up Couturier or Schenn to get him.
- GirouxForTheShow


I know everybody is married to these kids...and I don't want to see them go either. But would you rather have a great set of forwards and a weak, unproductive D or would you consider moving a piece to create more balance? The Flyers have done a very good job of assembling a talented group of young forwards. The same can't be said about the D, which, at this point is a patchwork of broken players who are questionable going into next season and callups who are a long way from being top 4 guys. This is all led by a guy (all due respect to Timo, the ultimate warrior) who is breaking down and on the edge of retirement. At some point, if the Flyers plan on contending in the coming few years, it seems they're going to have to trade some more of the assets up front to bring in D. This was already done with getting Schenn for JVR..,it was hard for some to take, but I think most would agree that it turned out well so far. Regarding Coots and Schenn, perhaps the team could find a way get the puck carrying producer they need without giving up those particular pieces. It couldn't hurt to kick the tires on these guys (including Buff's spare tire) and see what the market looks like for them. You'd be surprised what some guys can be had for in certain situations.
Would I trade Coots or Schenn for him? Push came to shove, all things considered, I probably would.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
No fan should fall in love with any 1 player. Plenty good will be available when they select.
- ob18



Hey, I'm with ya on that.

I was just mystified by all the Maatta love around here, fueled mostly by pre-draft rankings and immediate need. Laughton's been a lot more impressive thus far -- BAP is the way to go.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 1 @ 10:16 PM ET
Snyder is an issue. In the non cap era his checkbook fixed a lot of problems that you just can't fix as easily with the cap. He could sign 5 or 6 FA's and deal them at the deadline for picks. Not so easy now.
- jstross


No doubt. He's getting more and more senial every year
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 1 @ 10:17 PM ET
They need prospects period not just a specific position. Our system depth is not exactly deep. It's likely focused on a d-man because the last one we can say we develop now helps call games on the radio & it's been a real sore spot.
- ob18

Well here's another question too. Many times, players who are selected top 10 don't live up to expectations. Does this have to do more with how a team develops him, is it of his own fault, or is it the fault of the teams scouts putting him so high on their list? Can a team "devote" more to developing a certain player, and hence make him better than possibly a prospect of equal potential who is developed differently? If we said that theoretically Schenn and Couturier had an identical potential, and the team "devoted" more to developing Schenn, would he end up being much better than Couturier in the end?
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 1 @ 10:17 PM ET
They need prospects period not just a specific position. Our system depth is not exactly deep. It's likely focused on a d-man because the last one we can say we develop now helps call games on the radio & it's been a real sore spot.
- ob18


Or possibly showing more patience in letting them develop (Pitkanen and Seidenberg). I'm not going to include Sbisa in my example because I had no problem with including him for Pronger. I see top 6 potential in the system right now, if just a little patience is administered. Not franchise, but important pieces to a good team with very good cap hits for years to come.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 1 @ 10:18 PM ET
Then again, even though the Flyers need more defensive prospects, because of their draft policy I have to ask, what makes everyone so sure they'll even draft a defense man?
- JAKEw1234


They drafted 4 last year. They also traded for another.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 1 @ 10:19 PM ET
Hey, I'm with ya on that.

I was just mystified by all the Maatta love around here, fueled mostly by pre-draft rankings and immediate need. Laughton's been a lot more impressive thus far -- BAP is the way to go.

- Tomahawk

I guess ultimately the Flyers scouts know best No matter what happens feel confident that they'll make sure we'll get the best guy possible with the cards dealt to them.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 1 @ 10:19 PM ET
I can't wait for a repeat of last summer's never-ending Maata rants when they go for a forward @11.
- Tomahawk


Hunter Shinkaruk. Book it.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 1 @ 10:20 PM ET
Hey, I'm with ya on that.

I was just mystified by all the Maatta love around here, fueled mostly by pre-draft rankings and immediate need. Laughton's been a lot more impressive thus far -- BAP is the way to go.

- Tomahawk


Maatta is good and has continued his growth this season is a expanded role with London & may also very well turn out to be a solid player. I had wanted a D-man in the draft but I am not personally upset at all they took Laughton, I have my doubts that he was the BPA but if they felt strongly about him & didn't waiver on it.


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 1 @ 10:21 PM ET
Hunter Shinkaruk. Book it.
- Jsaquella


Nope Kerby Rychel get used to the name
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 1 @ 10:22 PM ET
Nope Kerby Rychel get used to the name
- ob18


They'll grab him with the Rangers pick after they trade down with Columbus
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 1 @ 10:23 PM ET
He's lazy and fat and that sets a bad example.?
- Just5


Can you back this up?
Sure, everyone knows fat, lazy players can be one of the top 2 scoring d men in the league for the past three years... I would submit that it's virtually impossible for someone who is consistently fat and lazy to perform as he does against the athletes he faces, for an 82 game season in the NHL. No f'ing way...



With those numbers why is he so at of favor?
- Just5


You tell me?

Why was Jeff Carter out of favor, while still producing, why was Joni Pitkanen out of favor while putting up 40+ points? It happens. I think people need a scapegoat...they haven't won in WPG...last year it was Evander Kane...now it's Buff.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 1 @ 10:23 PM ET
They'll grab him with the Rangers pick after they trade down with Columbus
- Jsaquella


Plenty to like, I keep looking and finding more prospects.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 1 @ 10:26 PM ET
Plenty to like, I keep looking and finding more prospects.
- ob18


You find the next Taro Tsujimoto yet?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 1 @ 10:26 PM ET
as long as the org doesn't give us this in the off season, we should be ok...

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