I would if we didn't already have 2 similar forwards like him. Already having those 2 long term I don't see it as a primary need right now.
- ob18

Agreed. I dont think we need to mess with the top 6 all that much. And if we do, it's not for a Clarkson type. More of a sniper/playmaker is who I would target.

Giroux to the Avs for the #1 pick
- vejim

Thankfully i know you are joking.

Do people seriously want Clarkson on this team?
- hereticpride

I hope not, cant stand him

I hope not, cant stand him
- mydoglicks

Might as well play the entire game 4 on 5 if he and Hartnell are top 6 on same team

Some really good playoff games this weekend.

I hope not, cant stand him
- mydoglicks

love him

Some really good playoff games this weekend.
- stveshdy

Looks like the Phillies are warming up for a playoff run..

Good thing their are 5000 games left in their regular season.

love him
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Many people have said this but im just going to reiterate. He is one of those players you love when they are on your team but hate when you play against them. Personally I would like him on the flyers IF we didnt have power forwards like Simmonds and Hartnell already.

That said I dont want him to resign with the Devils. Hopefully he will go out west so we barely have to see him

Looks like the Phillies are warming up for a playoff run..

Good thing their are 5000 games left in their regular season.
- opeth_pa

come on phillies suck this year

A new GM wouldn't hurt us if they bring the draft & develop approach which Homer & the Flyers don't seem to grasp the concept of too well.
- ob18

We're doing alright without it imo. We developed G, we're developing coots, at this point we will hopefully be drafting a future potent force on defense. We drafted and developed Richards and Carter, then traded them and multiplied the trade value on this team. We'll be ok. As someone correctly said, Homer realizes what this team needs more than anyone else. He knows we need a #1 dman, he acquired Pronger when we needed one, and it will be only a matter of time until we get another one.

Did you see Gardiner play last night.
Good on offense.
Atrocious on defence.
- strongsupporter

Luckily we can work on that. He's no Jamie McBain, so that's the good news. Does anyone know why he was so bad on D?

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Viktor Stalberg ($3.000m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Scott Laughton ($1.138m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Tye McGinn ($0.775m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Erik Gustafsson ($1.100m)
Michal Rozsival ($2.000m) / Oliver Lauridsen ($0.650m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
Buyout: Danny Briere ($0.000m)
Buyout: Andrej Meszaros ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,580,595; BONUSES: $3,012,500
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $2,731,905


Right at the cap ceiling without using Pronger's LTIR money. UFA's add Stalberg and Rosival. Trade Mez for a 2nd rounder and buyout Briere and still room for another substantial UFA.
- Just5

Why on Earth would you piss away a CBO on Meszaros with one year left on his deal?

We could of got are Sidney Crosby if we won the lottery. Patrick Kane is a stud, it's sad that due to a stupid lottery system, the Flyers got screwed, and Chicago won a Cup. Kane is a stud

Luckily we can work on that. He's no Jamie McBain, so that's the good news. Does anyone know why he was so bad on D?
- JAKEw1234

Because he's never been good in his own end. You dismiss McBain, yet trumpet a similar player in Gardiner. Its like saying Danny Briere sucks on defense, let's trade for Derek Roy

We could of got are Sidney Crosby if we won the lottery. Patrick Kane is a stud, it's sad that due to a stupid lottery system, the Flyers got screwed, and Chicago won a Cup. Kane is a stud
- Winning

Someone's got to be the unlucky ones. Florida got screwed this season, it happens. JVR is a stud to, and now arguably our best defender has come out of the whole situation. We'll be ok.

Someone's got to be the unlucky ones. Florida got screwed this season, it happens. JVR is a stud to, and now arguably our best defender has come out of the whole situation. We'll be ok.
- JAKEw1234

Florida's heart isn't exactly broken when they have the choice of MacKinnon or Drouin. Let's not shed a tear for them at all,

Someone's got to be the unlucky ones. Florida got screwed this season, it happens. JVR is a stud to, and now arguably our best defender has come out of the whole situation. We'll be ok.
- JAKEw1234

Nobody got screwed. It's a lottery. It happens. It's a stupid thing to female dog about

Because he's never been good in his own end. You dismiss McBain, yet trumpet a similar player in Gardiner. Its like saying Danny Briere sucks on defense, let's trade for Derek Roy
- Jsaquella

HA Roy playing defense is always a great spectacle

For all those people saying offer sheet Pietrangelo (Not in this thread IK) id like to tell you this quote:

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result"

Offer sheeting Pietra will end the same way as weber

HA Roy playing defense is always a great spectacle
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

Exactly. It's just that extolling Gardiner as this fantastic player while shredding a similar one in McBain seems, I don't know, kinda dumb

Because he's never been good in his own end. You dismiss McBain, yet trumpet a similar player in Gardiner. Its like saying Danny Briere sucks on defense, let's trade for Derek Roy
- Jsaquella

Gardiner was proficient in his own end last year, being only 21, scoring 30 points, and having only a -2 in 75 games played. He's had a sophomore slump, but has shown an ability to play proficiently defensively. Mcbain, imo, has never shown an ability to play even decent defense, in 3 NHL seasons. Mcbain was a -8 with 30 points as a rookie, then -7 with 27 points the next year, then in this shortened season, by some miracle, in arguably his worst defensive year, was a + 0, but was on pace to score only 16 points this season. Gardiner has shown he cant be proficient defensively, McBain has not.

Florida's heart isn't exactly broken when they have the choice of MacKinnon or Drouin. Let's not shed a tear for them at all,
- ob18

Ha well in hindsight a choice between JVR and Patrick Kane is alittle more weighted. It's worked out fine for us, is all I'm saying.

Ha well in hindsight a choice between JVR and Patrick Kane is alittle more weighted. It's worked out fine for us, is all I'm saying.
- JAKEw1234

It is what it is with the lottery system.

It is what it is with the lottery system.
- ob18

Right I was saying originally that it's worked out well for us in the end. I think I'd almost rather have Voracek then Kane... Ok that's a lie but I'm still very happy with Voracek, and I'm very happy with having Luke Schenn, who's the current incarnation of that 2nd overall pick on this team.

Gardiner was proficient in his own end last year, being only 21, scoring 30 points, and having only a -2 in 75 games played. He's had a sophomore slump, but has shown an ability to play proficiently defensively. Mcbain, imo, has never shown an ability to play even decent defense, in 3 NHL seasons. Mcbain was a -8 with 30 points as a rookie, then -7 with 27 points the next year, then in this shortened season, by some miracle, in arguably his worst defensive year, was a + 0, but was on pace to score only 16 points this season. Gardiner has shown he cant be proficient defensively, McBain has not.
- JAKEw1234

Using +/- as the lone criteria to determine a player's defensive ability is kind of like deciding on a new car because it's red.

Edit: Looking into it further, Gardiner was one of the least defensively tasked defensemen in the East last year. He had more offensive zone starts, faced a lower quality of competition and kind of damningly, had more than half his zone ends in his own end which means he started often in the other team's zone and ended the shift in his own end.