None of them will bring back anything of value or add much value to a trade. Probably smarter to hold onto them and hope they become good depth players.
- eichiefs9

I know they wouldn't fetch much alone, but Lee, Sundstrom, Persson look really pretty in a package deal (with Lee being worth the most)

like our 1st, (one of Lee/Sundstrom/Persson) is a good start for a package trade

no one is offering us Crosby for Nino.... Nino isnt being moved.

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- XxNYIxX

.....and here's another one....there's no such thing as anyone "not being moved for any reason".....unless no one is being moved at all, which is what has gone on here for the last seven years.....and if it does again, this team WILL NOT be in the playoffs next year with these EXACT same players, no way.....I'd make that bet right now.....their defense will be exposed for what it is, and the "late 30's" year old goalie will not get younger. The team is a good team on the cusp of being better than that, but it needs a significant upgrade on the back end, and it needs at least equivalent, yet younger, in net.

In response to that, I don't want to hear about Pedan, Mayfield, and Nilsson or Poulin. This team needs NHL READY, and perhaps even superstar players at those positions. It only needs one big time young player to play with Tavares; it has two coming down the pike. It has a defensman who "will be" some day (although from what I hear, what he most likely will be is Mark Streit), who can be traded for a defenseman who "IS", now. It is time for this team to add maturity and playoff experience, while trading assets of which it has an over abundance for those which it desperately needs.

Look, if we could simply sign Douglas Murray, Shea Weber and Ryan Miller to free agent contracts, being guaranteed they would sign here, and having an owner who was willing to do that with his money, therefore not having to part with any of these kids, of course I'd be all for that. However, that is not the case- this free agent crop, excepting Murray and a couple of others (maybe Mike Smith?...although I'm not sold on that), is mostly cr*p in the areas in which we'd need to explore it. We need to upgrade, and one of the ways to do so is to move out some of these forwards we have coming to the big league in the near future. That is a strength, which must be used to balance a weakness. That is how you run a sports franchise. Otherwise, you end up with the 1990's Atlanta Braves- best pitching staff in baseball for 13 years, one World Series, and a whole lot of nothing else, because you only have two guys who can hit, and one of them is Greg Maddux.

This team is very nearly ready to be a perennial Cup contender. It just needs a few items that it can't readily add from its own stock. I understand the trepidation- you don't want to trade assets for cr*p, and you don't want to trade them for less than full value. In a world full of idiots, only one Mike Milbury can be their king ....king ....of.....the STUPID (with apologies to Howard Stern). I get that- but Garth Snow isn't going to do that; he11, Garth hardly does anything at all, so you know he's not doing something unless he knows it's a "full value" transaction. I'm just saying it might be time to swoop down on a team that is truly hurting from a financial standpoint and/or ready for a rebuild, and snatch things you need off their rack....and if Niederreiter has to be involved in that, then so be it.

.....and here's another one....there's no such thing as anyone "not being moved for any reason".....unless no one is being moved at all, which is what has gone on here for the last seven years.....and if it does again, this team WILL NOT be in the playoffs next year with these EXACT same players, no way.....I'd make that bet right now.....their defense will be exposed for what it is, and the "late 30's" year old goalie will not get younger. The team is a good team on the cusp of being better than that, but it needs a significant upgrade on the back end, and it needs at least equivalent, yet younger, in net.

In response to that, I don't want to hear about Pedan, Mayfield, and Nilsson or Poulin. This team needs NHL READY, and perhaps even superstar, players at those positions. It only needs one big time young player to play with Tavares; it has two coming down the pipe. It has a defensman who "will be" some day (although from what I hear, what he most likely will be is Mark Streit), who can be traded for a defenseman who "IS", now. It is time for this team to add maturity and playoff experience, while trading assets of which it has an over abundance for those which it desperately needs.

Look, if we could simply sign Douglas Murray, Shea Weber and Ryan Miller to free agent contracts, being guaranteed they would sign here, and having an owner who was willing to do that with his money, therefore not having to part with any of these kids, of course I'd be all for that. However, that is not the case- this free agent crop, excepting Murray and a couple of others (maybe Mike Smith?...although I'm not sold on that), is mostly cr*p in the areas in which we'd need to explore it. We need to upgrade, and one of the ways to do so is to move out some of these forwards we have coming to the big league in the near future. That is a strength, which must be used to balance a weakness. That is how you run a sports franchise. Otherwise, you end up with the 1990's Atlanta Braves- best pitching staff in baseball for 13 years, one World Series, and a whole lot of nothing else, because you only have two guys who can hit, and one of them is Greg Maddux.

This team is very nearly ready to be a perennial Cup contender. It just needs a few items that it can't readily add from its own stock. I understand the trepidation- you don't want to trade assets for cr*p, and you don't want to trade them for less than full value. In a world full of idiots, only one Mike Milbury can be their king ....king ....of.....the STUPID (with apologies to Howard Stern). I get that- but Garth Snow isn't going to do that; he11, Garth hardly does anything at all, so you know he's not doing something unless he knows it's a "full value" transaction. I'm just saying it might be time to swoop down on a team that is truly hurting from a financial standpoint and/or ready for a rebuild, and snatch things you need off their rack....and if Niederreiter has to be involved in that, then so be it.
- dcb1

I've just realized my attention span at 7 am sucks

I've just realized my attention span at 7 am sucks

- keaner17

Yeah, this is how I wake up, by writing cr*p like this at 6 AM...I need an editor....

this looks very realistic, assuming nino pans out. Nielsen isnt going anywhere. I like Nelson at center, but we are JAM PACKED at center. Lee is also gonna be floating around trying to make the cut.
- Dedshark

The thing is, when you're young, mostly everyone who is good up front is a "center", just like every kid who plays baseball and is any good at it is a "pitcher" on his high school team. Once they get to professional reality, you find they are best suited elsewhere in the lineup. Center, in the NHL, is a MASSIVE defensive responsibility. Most players can't hack it (like Jeff ....ok, now we'll see how old some of you are), and will end up on one wing or the other. I'd expect most of this crop to be no different.

the Islanders have made brilliant use of the waiver wire the last few years and I fully expect them to take advantage of the next great opportunity, picking up players who have been bought out with an amnesty buyout.

There could be 15-20 of them the next two summers, and most of them will be bought out for cap reasons, not for lack of talent necessarily.

ya gotta envy the Islanders cap space in a position like this

Exactly, in other words, I doubt their friendship will ultimately prevent Garth from doing what's right by the organization. DP will attest that even being besties with the owner won't keep you on the roster if you aren't producing
- keaner17

You really do underestimate alot!


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.....and here's another one....there's no such thing as anyone "not being moved for any reason".....unless no one is being moved at all, which is what has gone on here for the last seven years.....and if it does again, this team WILL NOT be in the playoffs next year with these EXACT same players, no way.....I'd make that bet right now.....their defense will be exposed for what it is, and the "late 30's" year old goalie will not get younger. The team is a good team on the cusp of being better than that, but it needs a significant upgrade on the back end, and it needs at least equivalent, yet younger, in net.

In response to that, I don't want to hear about Pedan, Mayfield, and Nilsson or Poulin. This team needs NHL READY, and perhaps even superstar players at those positions. It only needs one big time young player to play with Tavares; it has two coming down the pike. It has a defensman who "will be" some day (although from what I hear, what he most likely will be is Mark Streit), who can be traded for a defenseman who "IS", now. It is time for this team to add maturity and playoff experience, while trading assets of which it has an over abundance for those which it desperately needs.

Look, if we could simply sign Douglas Murray, Shea Weber and Ryan Miller to free agent contracts, being guaranteed they would sign here, and having an owner who was willing to do that with his money, therefore not having to part with any of these kids, of course I'd be all for that. However, that is not the case- this free agent crop, excepting Murray and a couple of others (maybe Mike Smith?...although I'm not sold on that), is mostly cr*p in the areas in which we'd need to explore it. We need to upgrade, and one of the ways to do so is to move out some of these forwards we have coming to the big league in the near future. That is a strength, which must be used to balance a weakness. That is how you run a sports franchise. Otherwise, you end up with the 1990's Atlanta Braves- best pitching staff in baseball for 13 years, one World Series, and a whole lot of nothing else, because you only have two guys who can hit, and one of them is Greg Maddux.

This team is very nearly ready to be a perennial Cup contender. It just needs a few items that it can't readily add from its own stock. I understand the trepidation- you don't want to trade assets for cr*p, and you don't want to trade them for less than full value. In a world full of idiots, only one Mike Milbury can be their king ....king ....of.....the STUPID (with apologies to Howard Stern). I get that- but Garth Snow isn't going to do that; he11, Garth hardly does anything at all, so you know he's not doing something unless he knows it's a "full value" transaction. I'm just saying it might be time to swoop down on a team that is truly hurting from a financial standpoint and/or ready for a rebuild, and snatch things you need off their rack....and if Niederreiter has to be involved in that, then so be it.
- dcb1

When did I say he wasn't being move for any reason??? I never said that. I said he's not being moved. HUGE difference.... rest of your post I didn't even read because you missed this fundamental fact of what was written & what you read.

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the Islanders have made brilliant use of the waiver wire the last few years and I fully expect them to take advantage of the next great opportunity, picking up players who have been bought out with an amnesty buyout.

There could be 15-20 of them the next two summers, and most of them will be bought out for cap reasons, not for lack of talent necessarily.

ya gotta envy the Islanders cap space in a position like this
- jimbro83

Bingo Jimbro!

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You really do underestimate alot!


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- XxNYIxX

no...I don't OVERestimate. I don't expect Moulson to be traded and I do think we'll resign Nabby. However, I'd suggest this is a very good time to consider shopping Moulson since he has one year left on his contract and does very little other than provide JT with a road bunkie. That playoff series and April run should have opened a lot of eyes towards Moulson. The kid is a helluva guy but he's a pylon. With the talent we have coming to this team over the next couple of years, he won't likely occupy a top six spot on the team and lacks any of the skills to play on an energy line. OBSOLETE.

I was thinking more like

Moulson- Tavares- Bailey
Grabner- Strome- Okposo
Martin- Nelson- Joensuu
Ullstrome- Cizikas- McDonald

Harmonic- Visnoysky
Streit- Trade
Trade - Carkner

Trade
Poulin

I love the size and speed through out the line up. Add two big nasty dman and a good young goalie.
Can't wait until October!!!!!
- 2raven2

I like the unholy union of Ullstrom and Strome to form an ultra super hockey player

When did I say he wasn't being move for any reason??? I never said that. I said he's not being moved. HUGE difference.... rest of your post I didn't even read because you missed this fundamental fact of what was written & what you read.

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- XxNYIxX

"Anyone" in this context means you cannot say HE or ANYONE ELSE won't be moved. How many players spend their entire career with the same team? Oh, and I don't care whether or not anyone reads what I write, to be honest with you...sorry...

"Anyone" in this context means you cannot say HE or ANYONE ELSE won't be moved. How many players spend their entire career with the same team? Oh, and I don't care whether or not anyone reads what I write, to be honest with you...sorry...
- dcb1

I can say it & look.. I did.

But you aren't picking up the fact that no one said he COULDN'T be moved, I said he WONT be moved in response to you saying he WOULD be moved. ANYONE can be moved.

No one is talking about his whole career, his career hasn't even started yet.

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