ob18
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How dare you! - flyer_nutter
I like how he's played these playoffs. I don't think he's 6'5" though, I think he's actually taller. |
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flyer_nutter
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Ebony and Irony, live together in perfect harmony.
But seriously, when I hear that something is a total mess, I have to click on it. - Jsaquella
If you switched the order of those two, that would also make sense. |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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Did you read all of the comments on that first blog of his? People are taking a hockey blog quite seriously  - JAKEw1234
I loved how someone tried to post I guess Bill's or Ek's response to the issue and they highlighted how the guy violated the editorial/content policy and yet people wanna still whine like little babies.  It's a job, he had rules, and didn't follow them. Also the blog was moronic at best with the only remotely valid point was how Boudreau hasn't been past the second round which really doesn't make him a bad coach.
(frank) that, whoever deleted it, good for you, the site should have a standard of offering quality content in terms of individual team coverage. I don't mind bloggers engaging in some fun but really, dude talking bout burning people's houses down and their mothers is the ilk of a child. |
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ravishingone
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Location: United States, PA Joined: 06.30.2007
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I like how he's played these playoffs. I don't think he's 6'5" though, I think he's actually taller. - ob18
Why is Zadorov considered a better prospect then Morin? How wide is the gap in talent? |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Sure we do! - Jsaquella
sure why not continue the streak |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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Joe's kids jumped you, too? - Jsaquella
that's how we do it in the hood! |
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flyer_nutter
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I like how he's played these playoffs. I don't think he's 6'5" though, I think he's actually taller. - ob18
I've been crazy bogged down with school work basically since the end of the regular season.
If there is any year good for the Flyers to miss the playoffs, its this year and next.
Still think one of Zadorov, Nurse, Pulock, or Ristolainen will be on the board at 11. Will be happy with any of them.
Out of the forwards that might drop (Lindholm, Monahan, Nichuskin), I'd go with Monahan but stay away from the other two.
My sleepers are Domi and apparently Horvat. Players get hot streaks all the time though. |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Why is Zadorov considered a better prospect then Morin? How wide is the gap in talent? - ravishingone
Fairly wide. Zadorov is very mobile for such a big guy, and while he hasn't shown massive offensive production, he's shown potential to be a very good two way defenseman. Morin is considered to be strictly a stay at home banger with great size and a mean streak |
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JAKEw1234
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Can someone compare Pulock vs Zadorov?
Would it be better for us to pick Pulock, or Zadorov, and why? |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Fairly wide. Zadorov is very mobile for such a big guy, and while he hasn't shown massive offensive production, he's shown potential to be a very good two way defenseman. Morin is considered to be strictly a stay at home banger with great size and a mean streak - Jsaquella
i think i'd prefer a two way defenseman offense is a bonus to me if he's sound defensively |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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I've been crazy bogged down with school work basically since the end of the regular season.
If there is any year good for the Flyers to miss the playoffs, its this year and next.
Still think one of Zadorov, Nurse, Pulock, or Ristolainen will be on the board at 11. Will be happy with any of them.
Out of the forwards that might drop (Lindholm, Monahan, Nichuskin), I'd go with Monahan but stay away from the other two.
My sleepers are Domi and apparently Horvat. Players get hot streaks all the time though. - flyer_nutter
Horvat is no longer a sleeper by any means, do not be shocked if you see him become a top 10 pick.
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Jsaquella
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Can someone compare Pulock vs Zadorov?
Would it be better for us to pick Pulock, or Zadorov, and why? - JAKEw1234
Pulock would be my choice between the two, because he's a safer pick. But Zadorov could put it al together and be a better player. |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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Fairly wide. Zadorov is very mobile for such a big guy, and while he hasn't shown massive offensive production, he's shown potential to be a very good two way defenseman. Morin is considered to be strictly a stay at home banger with great size and a mean streak - Jsaquella
Yeah and to think Zadorov's offensive game is raw. |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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I've been crazy bogged down with school work basically since the end of the regular season.
If there is any year good for the Flyers to miss the playoffs, its this year and next.
Still think one of Zadorov, Nurse, Pulock, or Ristolainen will be on the board at 11. Will be happy with any of them.
Out of the forwards that might drop (Lindholm, Monahan, Nichuskin), I'd go with Monahan but stay away from the other two.
My sleepers are Domi and apparently Horvat. Players get hot streaks all the time though. - flyer_nutter
You want a sleeper here
http://www.guelphstorm.com/roster/show/id/8823
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ravishingone
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Location: United States, PA Joined: 06.30.2007
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Fairly wide. Zadorov is very mobile for such a big guy, and while he hasn't shown massive offensive production, he's shown potential to be a very good two way defenseman. Morin is considered to be strictly a stay at home banger with great size and a mean streak - Jsaquella
I'm very confident the Flyers will draft a very good player in the first round. They certainly have been money in the first round no matter where they have chosen over the last ten years. |
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flyer_nutter
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Can someone compare Pulock vs Zadorov?
Would it be better for us to pick Pulock, or Zadorov, and why? - JAKEw1234
I have bias.
Zadorov to me has the unreal size you cant teach. Has a mean streak, and good mobility for a big guy. Has shown an ability in the offensive zone, that should continue to develop with time. Coaches rave about his attitude and even leadership. He has shown a knack for wanting to learn the game by already coming to North America, and not staying in Russia.
At the end of it, I believe in this...
I rather have a d-man who is first and foremost solid in his own end, and one that can work on a growing offensive game.
Instead of a d-man who had a solid offensive game, but will need to work on growing his defensive game.
Even with Pulock's shot, I think Zadorov has the higher home run potential. |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Yeah and to think Zadorov's offensive game is raw. - ob18
It is, and may never fully "develop".
As Bill has pointed out, you'd like to see decent production out a defenseman in junior, because guys that usually don't score at all in junior don't translate well into the NHL. Ryan Parent is a guy that is an example of that.
But Zadorov's size and mobility, as well as flashes of ability, have a lot of folks believing he could eventually be a capable two way NHL defenseman |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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I'm very confident the Flyers will draft a very good player in the first round. They certainly have been money in the first round no matter where they have chosen over the last ten years. - ravishingone
They usually do good in round one, and there will be a slew of good players on the board at 11, for sure. |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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It is, and may never fully "develop".
As Bill has pointed out, you'd like to see decent production out a defenseman in junior, because guys that usually don't score at all in junior don't translate well into the NHL. Ryan Parent is a guy that is an example of that.
But Zadorov's size and mobility, as well as flashes of ability, have a lot of folks believing he could eventually be a capable two way NHL defenseman - Jsaquella
Yup, a lot to like but like any pick it's a roll of the dice. |
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flyer_nutter
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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It is, and may never fully "develop".
As Bill has pointed out, you'd like to see decent production out a defenseman in junior, because guys that usually don't score at all in junior don't translate well into the NHL. Ryan Parent is a guy that is an example of that.
But Zadorov's size and mobility, as well as flashes of ability, have a lot of folks believing he could eventually be a capable two way NHL defenseman - Jsaquella
The way I see it. If you have two dominant shutdown D in Zadorov and Schenn, with Zadorov having some transition game...
You can fill the rest of that D core out with guys like Yandle, and not be so worried about the one dimensional aspects of their game. |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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I'm very confident the Flyers will draft a very good player in the first round. They certainly have been money in the first round no matter where they have chosen over the last ten years. - ravishingone
i just hope we don't pull and hickey type picks |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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The way I see it. If you have two dominant shutdown D in Zadorov and Schenn, with Zadorov having some transition game...
You can fill the rest of that D core out with guys like Yandle, and not be so worried about the one dimensional aspects of their game. - flyer_nutter
You don't have to sell me, I've liked Zadorov throughout. I like Pulock a lot, too, because he's oozing with hockey smarts, and is a very capable two way defenseman now & is really pretty much a beginner at the spot. He should only get better |
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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It is, and may never fully "develop".
As Bill has pointed out, you'd like to see decent production out a defenseman in junior, because guys that usually don't score at all in junior don't translate well into the NHL. Ryan Parent is a guy that is an example of that.
But Zadorov's size and mobility, as well as flashes of ability, have a lot of folks believing he could eventually be a capable two way NHL defenseman - Jsaquella
See, this I'm not sure of. Are you underselling it by saying "capable defenseman" capable to me comes across as decent. Top 4 at best. There's lots of defensive potential in this draft, and many people project Pulock to be a future top pair defense man. Is this how Zadorov projects? |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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I have bias.
Zadorov to me has the unreal size you cant teach. Has a mean streak, and good mobility for a big guy. Has shown an ability in the offensive zone, that should continue to develop with time. Coaches rave about his attitude and even leadership. He has shown a knack for wanting to learn the game by already coming to North America, and not staying in Russia.
At the end of it, I believe in this...
I rather have a d-man who is first and foremost solid in his own end, and one that can work on a growing offensive game.
Instead of a d-man who had a solid offensive game, but will need to work on growing his defensive game.
Even with Pulock's shot, I think Zadorov has the higher home run potential. - flyer_nutter
To me, Pulock has 1st-unit power play QB upside and is not a bad defensive player although perhaps not projecting right now as a future NHL shutdown guy (mostly because he only switched from forward a couple years ago). Pulock's shot is so good that he could be on NHL power play right now.
Zadorov is a good - not great -- junior level defender about whom it is hoped he can become an NHL shutdown buy based on his size and tools. In somewhat similar fashion, the offensive upside is strictly speculative based on his natural tools.
I'd rather draft Morin in round 2 (if he's available) than Zadorov at #11. |
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hammarby31
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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and asham crushes one for the rangers lead. he thinks he's ben eager in the 2010 SCF. |
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