Was there a rumor that Vancouver was gonna blow it up last season? Cause this season even the few Vancouver fans I've talked to have agreed that they're gonna blow it up this year.
- JAKEw1234

Does blowing it up mean trading your best defenseman, who is young and still very solid? Even when you blow things up, you identify which pieces you want to keep and build the new foundation on.

I guess he feels they knew what they were getting into when they gamed the system.
- BulliesPhan87

Yep, but In my opinion, what it should be is you (Bettman) negotiated the CBA and left those holes there, so live with it. Don't blame the GM's who used the system and the rules in place to take advantage of it. Not to mention that all those deals were approved by the League.
The League got it's 50/50. They should've been happy with that. Think about it. if a team like the Flyers has a player like Bryzgalov retire before his deal is up. Could incur as much as an 8M Cap penalty. That would hinder their ability to put a quality team on the ice. Meaning it could hurt a playoff run in a major Hockey market. Which would mean less HRR taken in. It's biting off your nose to spite your face.

What are the small assets that you would have to add to Hartnell?

And this is the 2nd time you mentioned Kane. Why exactly is Winnipeg trading Evander Kane?
- MJL

Prospects and picks. Talking our higher end like Manning/Konan/Cousins/Akeson and maybe a 3rd or 2nd rounder.
And Winnipeg isn't necessarily keeping Kane as an untouchable. It's not that they're trading him as much as we're trading for him... Toronto wasn't necessarily trading L Schenn last season, and Anaheim wasn't necessarily trading Pronger, but when you make an offer and break the ice than things can open up a bit.

Was there a rumor that Vancouver was gonna blow it up last season? Cause this season even the few Vancouver fans I've talked to have agreed that they're gonna blow it up this year.
- JAKEw1234

I wouldn't use the fans as a reliable source.

Prospects and picks. Talking our higher end like Manning/Konan/Cousins/Akeson and maybe a 3rd or 2nd rounder.
And Winnipeg isn't necessarily keeping Kane as an untouchable. It's not that they're trading him as much as we're trading for him... Toronto wasn't necessarily trading L Schenn last season, and Anaheim wasn't necessarily trading Pronger, but when you make an offer and break the ice than things can open up a bit.
- JAKEw1234

Where to begin. Those assets are marginal assets. Nothing special there. It's going to take more.
The part about Kane doesn't make sense. And doesn't answer why Winnipeg is trading Kane. A 21 year old player on the verge of stardom.
And yes, Toronto was looking to move L Schenn to add a Forward. And Anaheim was looking to move Pronger to get younger.

I will be in the Philly area in the near future. Looking to kill about 3 hours in the city before going to Sesame Place. What areas are cool to explore with a young family?

I will be in the Philly area in the near future. Looking to kill about 3 hours in the city before going to Sesame Place. What areas are cool to explore with a young family?
- Gunner Staal

Probably the Historical scene. Liberty Bell, Independence Hall, etc.

Probably the Historical scene. Liberty Bell, Independence Hall, etc.
- MJL

How easy is it to park?

How easy is it to park?
- Gunner Staal

Not bad. You can put the car in a lot. It'll cost you 20 bucks or so.

Not bad. You can put the car in a lot. It'll cost you 20 bucks or so.
- MJL

Thanks.

I will be in the Philly area in the near future. Looking to kill about 3 hours in the city before going to Sesame Place. What areas are cool to explore with a young family?
- Gunner Staal

About 5 miles north from Sesame Place is the Garden of Reflection (a 9-11 memorial site) which is worth seeing, even with young kids. Within the city, I'd recommend Franklin Square. My 4-year-old son loves going there.

Yep, but In my opinion, what it should be is you (Bettman) negotiated the CBA and left those holes there, so live with it. Don't blame the GM's who used the system and the rules in place to take advantage of it. Not to mention that all those deals were approved by the League.
The League got it's 50/50. They should've been happy with that. Think about it. if a team like the Flyers has a player like Bryzgalov retire before his deal is up. Could incur as much as an 8M Cap penalty. That would hinder their ability to put a quality team on the ice. Meaning it could hurt a playoff run in a major Hockey market. Which would mean less HRR taken in. It's biting off your nose to spite your face.
- MJL

I agree, but it's the law of the league now. At least he's giving Snider the chance to absorb that punishment financially by cutting the check, rather than punish an entire fanbase for X years.

About 5 miles north from Sesame Place is the Garden of Reflection (a 9-11 memorial site) which is worth seeing, even with young kids. Within the city, I'd recommend Franklin Square. My 4-year-old son loves going there.
- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill

I agree, but it's the law of the league now. At least he's giving Snider the chance to absorb that punishment financially by cutting the check, rather than punish an entire fanbase for X years.
- BulliesPhan87

This is like persecuting someone for breaking a law before the law was created. It is BS. I also think the penalty for Kovalchucks deal was BS as well. And way too steep.

I will be in the Philly area in the near future. Looking to kill about 3 hours in the city before going to Sesame Place. What areas are cool to explore with a young family?
- Gunner Staal

Washington crossing is close to sesame place....

Washington crossing is close to sesame place....
- huks99

Also within a few mins of aforementioned Garden of Reflection.

This is like persecuting someone for breaking a law before the law was created. It is BS. I also think the penalty for Kovalchucks deal was BS as well. And way too steep.
- coffee junkie

I agree with you 100%. It's like one part of a Company punishing another division of the same Company, that in turn, causes the Company as a whole to take in less revenue.

Also within a few mins of aforementioned Garden of Reflection.
- bmeltzer

Go to "build a bear" in the mall

Go to "build a bear" in the mall
- ob18

Where to begin. Those assets are marginal assets. Nothing special there. It's going to take more.
The part about Kane doesn't make sense. And doesn't answer why Winnipeg is trading Kane. A 21 year old player on the verge of stardom.
And yes, Toronto was looking to move L Schenn to add a Forward. And Anaheim was looking to move Pronger to get younger.
- MJL

Well I guess a good place to start is to find out what Winnipeg is looking to add next season and try to build around that. And Brayden Schenn, though slower in his development, has just as good of a chance at becoming a star as Kane, imo. It probably won't happen at the same age as Kane, but I see both of their potential as quite equal. The only reason I see Kane being better is the physical aspect to his game that B Schenn doesn't have.

- mayorofangrytown

That should kill 3 hours

Well I guess a good place to start is to find out what Winnipeg is looking to add next season and try to build around that. And Brayden Schenn, though slower in his development, has just as good of a chance at becoming a star as Kane, imo. It probably won't happen at the same age as Kane, but I see both of their potential as quite equal. The only reason I see Kane being better is the physical aspect to his game that B Schenn doesn't have.
- JAKEw1234

Anything Winnipeg is looking to add, they aren't likely looking to use Kane as bait to get it. Kane has a 30 goal Season under his belt as a 20 year old.
The common theme is most of your trade proposals, is to give up what you don't covet, for something that you covet on the other team. The prospects you named aren't sure bets to even be NHL players. Not that most prospects are. But the prospects you named, are more likely to be career AHL players, then NHL players. With the possible exception of Cousins, who was the best in the group you named. Not that it's impossible for all of them to make it to the NHL.
As I've said to you before. If you want other teams top players, be prepared to give up your top players in the deal.

I will be in the Philly area in the near future. Looking to kill about 3 hours in the city before going to Sesame Place. What areas are cool to explore with a young family?
- Gunner Staal

There's a few good washy-washy places in Chinatown, around 14th and Arch

Anything Winnipeg is looking to add, they aren't likely looking to use Kane as bait to get it. Kane has a 30 goal Season under his belt as a 20 year old.
The common theme is most of your trade proposals, is to give up what you don't covet, for something that you covet on the other team. The prospects you named aren't sure bets to even be NHL players. Not that most prospects are. But the prospects you named, are more likely to be career AHL players, then NHL players. With the possible exception of Cousins, who was the best in the group you named. Not that it's impossible for all of them to make it to the NHL.
As I've said to you before. If you want other teams top players, be prepared to give up your top players in the deal.
- MJL

Well if you're talking about the Edler trade, I saying that Hartnell, being a 40 goal-scoring power forward, is actually much more valuable then I'm sure you think he is. As someone said in here earlier, Hartnell by himself is close for Edler. We wouldn't have to add much, if anything, for that to be good value-wise. Only marginal things, such as Konan and Manning. For Kane, Schenn is close value-wise to Kane, as I said. Schenn + Read, for instance, would be an overpayment. But this idea you have of me not giving top players in my trade ideas, I don't understand. Isn't B Schenn one of our top players? Isn't Hartnell our 40-goal scoring 1st line LWer?

I wouldn't use the fans as a reliable source.
- MJL

There were tweets about it from Vancouver beat writers, I saw a few all echoing similar statements about how several players might be on the chopping block, including Edler, Kesler, and obviously the goalie situation. Granted, I'm not gonna look to find them, but I definitely read them.