There's a few good washy-washy places in Chinatown, around 14th and Arch
- Jsaquella

I thought they all closed

If you might be lurking at all Bill.

Would you mind doing something in the upcoming blogs about the quater-final matchups in the WHC. I dont know if you have it planned or not, but for those of us trying to catch as many of those games as we can, it would be greatly appreciated.

I know its kind of an off-topic request, but it would be nice. On the other hand I'd completely understand if not. No worries there.

Take 'er easy

Just not as easy as the US took on my Slovaks today

Well if you're talking about the Edler trade, I saying that Hartnell, being a 40 goal-scoring power forward, is actually much more valuable then I'm sure you think he is. As someone said in here earlier, Hartnell by himself is close for Edler. We wouldn't have to add much, if anything, for that to be good value-wise. Only marginal things, such as Konan and Manning. For Kane, Schenn is close value-wise to Kane, as I said. Schenn + Read, for instance, would be an overpayment. But this idea you have of me not giving top players in my trade ideas, I don't understand. Isn't B Schenn one of our top players? Isn't Hartnell our 40-goal scoring 1st line LWer?
- JAKEw1234

I think Hartnell has value for sure. He's a good player. From Vancouver's viewpoint, I don't think Hartnell alone for Edler is close. Just from the standpoint of how valuable and scarce, two way offensive defenseman are in the League. If the rumors are true, that Vancouver wants to add size to the lineup, then Hartnell might be a player they have interest in. But I'll believe they're willing to trade Edler when I see it.

I'll put it as plainly as I can. Why is Winnipeg trading Kane? What does trading Kane for B Schenn do for them? How does it make them better? Certainly throwing in Akeson, Manning, or Konan along with B Schenn doesn't do it.

There were tweets about it from Vancouver beat writers, I saw a few all echoing similar statements about how several players might be on the chopping block, including Edler, Kesler, and obviously the goalie situation. Granted, I'm not gonna look to find them, but I definitely read them.
- GirouxForTheShow

I would find that more credible then fans saying it. Still would take it with a grain of salt.

Good to see we have some Alternatives on defense.

Good to see we have some Alternatives on defense.
- JoeRussomanno

I would find that more credible then fans saying it. Still would take it with a grain of salt.
- MJL

Btw, did you say that you think Simmonds and a pick isn't enough for Edler? Cause that's an over payment by us in my opinion.

Btw, did you say that you think Simmonds and a pick isn't enough for Edler? Cause that's an over payment by us in my opinion.
- GirouxForTheShow

What's the pick? Simmonds and a 2nd or a 3rd? Definitely not enough. And not close to an over payment. The value for a puck moving 2 way defenseman such as Edler is very high.

Good to see we have some Alternatives on defense.
- JoeRussomanno

If we tanked and got jones we would have more

Btw, did you say that you think Simmonds and a pick isn't enough for Edler? Cause that's an over payment by us in my opinion.
- GirouxForTheShow

I think that Simmonds or Hartnell is close to fair for Edler. It might take a pick or prospect on either end to balance it out, but it'd be a deal that really fills a need for both sides

I think Hartnell has value for sure. He's a good player. From Vancouver's viewpoint, I don't think Hartnell alone for Edler is close. Just from the standpoint of how valuable and scarce, two way offensive defenseman are in the League. If the rumors are true, that Vancouver wants to add size to the lineup, then Hartnell might be a player they have interest in. But I'll believe they're willing to trade Edler when I see it.

I'll put it as plainly as I can. Why is Winnipeg trading Kane? What does trading Kane for B Schenn do for them? How does it make them better? Certainly throwing in Akeson, Manning, or Konan along with B Schenn doesn't do it.
- MJL

Right, I don't believe I said adding those players to the Kane trade would be useful, only the Edler. If you misunderstood this I apologize for me mixing my ideas. I meant to put into my last message that they should consider Kane + for Schenn and Read. Maybe something marginal from them, a 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder, maybe. Because if you fail to see where adding both Schenn and Read isn't helpful, then I don't know what to tell you.

I think that Simmonds or Hartnell is close to fair for Edler. It might take a pick or prospect on either end to balance it out, but it'd be a deal that really fills a need for both sides
- Jsaquella

imo Simmonds should remain untouchable this offseason.

If you might be lurking at all Bill.

Would you mind doing something in the upcoming blogs about the quater-final matchups in the WHC. I dont know if you have it planned or not, but for those of us trying to catch as many of those games as we can, it would be greatly appreciated.

I know its kind of an off-topic request, but it would be nice. On the other hand I'd completely understand if not. No worries there.

Take 'er easy

Just not as easy as the US took on my Slovaks today
- flyer_nutter

Since tomorrow is an off-day for all teams before the medal round, I'll do just that.

What's the pick? Simmonds and a 2nd or a 3rd? Definitely not enough. And not close to an over payment. The value for a puck moving 2 way defenseman such as Edler is very high.
- MJL

I think Simmonds and a 2nd would get the job done. Simmonds is 24, a guaranteed 20 goal scorer, as tough as they come and is exactly what VanCity is looking for in a winger (size, grit and scoring ability).

I think Simmonds and a 2nd would get the job done. Simmonds is 24, a guaranteed 20 goal scorer, as tough as they come and is exactly what VanCity is looking for in a winger (size, grit and scoring ability).
- GirouxForTheShow

So give them Hartnell, he's all of that, except we don't have to dip into our youth core to add a mid-aged player.

Right, I don't believe I said adding those players to the Kane trade would be useful, only the Edler. If you misunderstood this I apologize for me mixing my ideas. I meant to put into my last message that they should consider Kane + for Schenn and Read. Maybe something marginal from them, a 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder, maybe. Because if you fail to see where adding both Schenn and Read isn't helpful, then I don't know what to tell you.
- JAKEw1234

Stay away from Kane, Buff and Winnipeg as a whole.

From someone who is exposed to a decent amount of the team, and the city.

Its not even so much that Winnipeg is more than likely a terrible trading partner that will make any team overpay due to the fact that they cant sign FA... Its more so that the lazyness and wrong attitude that Kane and Buff bring with them.

I think that Simmonds or Hartnell is close to fair for Edler. It might take a pick or prospect on either end to balance it out, but it'd be a deal that really fills a need for both sides
- Jsaquella

Hartnell would require more of a sweetening of the pot in my opinion, if only due to his age.

I think Simmonds and a 2nd would get the job done. Simmonds is 24, a guaranteed 20 goal scorer, as tough as they come and is exactly what VanCity is looking for in a winger (size, grit and scoring ability).
- GirouxForTheShow

If Vancouver would agree to that, It wouldn't take more then a nano second to say yes, and ship Simmonds out. I wouldn't be able to make the trade call fast enough to the NHL offices. Simmonds is exactly what Vancouver is looking for. Doesn't mean they're going to trade a very valuable asset in Edler to get that player. Why not just try and sign Clarkson, or Clowe? I would be absolutely flabbergasted if Vancouver would agree to that.

I think Simmonds and a 2nd would get the job done. Simmonds is 24, a guaranteed 20 goal scorer, as tough as they come and is exactly what VanCity is looking for in a winger (size, grit and scoring ability).
- GirouxForTheShow

I much rather keep Simmonds than Hartnell.

Simmonds still has room to improve his game, and grow as a player.

With Hartnell, you get a lot of bad, with the good, and he is who he is at this point in his career. A package centering around Hartnell/Edler would be amazing in my books.

Stay away from Kane, Buff and Winnipeg as a whole.

From someone who is exposed to a decent amount of the team, and the city.

Its not even so much that Winnipeg is more than likely a terrible trading partner that will make any team overpay due to the fact that they cant sign FA... Its more so that the lazyness and wrong attitude that Kane and Buff bring with them.
- flyer_nutter

Kane is 21 years old, and already has a 30 goal season under his belt. He's a potential future star. Byfuglien, I agree with.

Stay away from Kane, Buff and Winnipeg as a whole.

From someone who is exposed to a decent amount of the team, and the city.

Its not even so much that Winnipeg is more than likely a terrible trading partner that will make any team overpay due to the fact that they cant sign FA... Its more so that the lazyness and wrong attitude that Kane and Buff bring with them.
- flyer_nutter

I had only heard this about Buff, now Kane is lazy too? That makes me think that if these rumors hold truth than it's more of a coaching issue than a player issue.

Hartnell would require more of a sweetening of the pot in my opinion, if only due to his age.
- GirouxForTheShow

There are rumors that Tampa is looking to buy out Malone, so Vancouver has an option there as well.

Sex panther?
- Jsaquella

It smells like BigFoots d1ck!

I much rather keep Simmonds than Hartnell.

Simmonds still has room to improve his game, and grow as a player.

With Hartnell, you get a lot of bad, with the good, and he is who he is at this point in his career. A package centering around Hartnell/Edler would be amazing in my books.
- flyer_nutter

I had only heard this about Buff, now Kane is lazy too? That makes me think that if these rumors hold truth than it's more of a coaching issue than a player issue.
- JAKEw1234

Kane is talented, but has big attitude issues.

I'd stay away from that, especially for what the Jets would ask in return. (think Coots + )

Edit: If you want links, I cant provide because I dont have time to look them up with my nursing schedule this week. Most of the issues revolve around his sub par efforts in the defensive zone, and on the back-check which have been mentioned by the coach himself ever since the Atlanta move. He has basically whined about the city and come close to saying he wants out. I lose respect for players real fast when I see stuff like that. If you watch him play, he is one of those guys who will be dynamite one shift, but give a rats ass another. Lastly, and this is really just speculation I suppose, but he has really developed a habit of being a douchebag in this city. Going to restaurants and often leaving without paying the bill or giving a tip because of who he is. He has basically developed a reputation as a talented, but really "better than thou" player, on and off the ice.

In a city that loves its players and worships them, he is the odd man out along with Buff.