Yeah he was spot on, I don't think anyone, even the Dark Lord, could dispute that.
- GirouxForTheShow

Ugh. Vadar was not the dark lord of the sith. He never reached full sith mastery.

And I will agrue is Poxy isnt either.

Ugh. Vadar was not the dark lord of the sith. He never reached full sith mastery.

And I will agrue is Poxy isnt either.
- youarewrong

I'm sorry I don't speak Star Wars, who is Poxy? Vader wasn't Sith Lord after he decapitated the old dude with lightening hands?

Gotta have Stevens in there over Hatch I'd say.
- GirouxForTheShow

Could you put Stevens in there? Wasnt that the tail end of his career? Was he at his best then? It like saying that Gretzky and Lemieux were the best offensive players int he last 15 years just because thier careers overlapped that time frame. However if you say Neidermayer over Stevens and Hatcher, I could give you that.

I'm sorry I don't speak Star Wars, who is Poxy? Vader wasn't Sith Lord after he decapitated the old dude with lightening hands?
- GirouxForTheShow

OMG I just vomited in my mouth. No. Vader was redeemed. He became a good guy again when he killed the emporor. And Vader did not decapitate the "old dude". He picked him up and threw him into the abyss.

Could you put Stevens in there? Wasnt that the tail end of his career? Was he at his best then? It like saying that Gretzky and Lemieux were the best offensive players int he last 15 years just because thier careers overlapped that time frame. However if you say Neidermayer over Stevens and Hatcher, I could give you that.
- youarewrong

I guess I didn't equate 15 years to starting in 1998, god time flies. Neidermayer is definitely one I'd put up there too. EDIT: Brain Rafalski? Not top 5, but he's up there too.

OMG I just vomited in my mouth. No. Vader was redeemed. He became a good guy again when he killed the emporor. And Vader did not decapitate the "old dude". He picked him up and threw him into the abyss.
- youarewrong

Who is Poxy? Just because he killed the Emperor doesn't mean he's a good guy. Once a Sith Lord, always a Sith Lord.

Thinking of Pronger, who is your list of the best 5 d-men in the last 15 years:

My List:
Lidstrom
Pronger
Chara
Hatcher
Leetch
- youarewrong

Lidstrom
Pronger
Niedermayer
Chara
Stevens

Ugh. Vadar was not the dark lord of the sith. He never reached full sith mastery.

And I will agrue is Poxy isnt either.
- youarewrong

wow its like nerd buzz in here!

Could you put Stevens in there? Wasnt that the tail end of his career? Was he at his best then? It like saying that Gretzky and Lemieux were the best offensive players int he last 15 years just because thier careers overlapped that time frame. However if you say Neidermayer over Stevens and Hatcher, I could give you that.
- youarewrong

Stevens was still pretty good from 98-04

OMG I just vomited in my mouth. No. Vader was redeemed. He became a good guy again when he killed the emporor. And Vader did not decapitate the "old dude". He picked him up and threw him into the abyss.
- youarewrong

none of this is correct
did you even watch the movies?

Who is Poxy? Just because he killed the Emperor doesn't mean he's a good guy. Once a Sith Lord, always a Sith Lord.
- GirouxForTheShow

Proxy. The guy pretending to be vader in HB. lol

And yes, George Lucas stated that Vader was redeemed. That is why he is standing next to Obi-Wan and Yoda at the end of ROTJ.

none of this is correct
did you even watch the movies?
- Crimsoninja

Your saying this to a guy with a Vader tatoo....

Your saying this to a guy with a Vader tatoo....
- youarewrong

im just messing anyway
i dont know anything about sw

im just messing anyway
i dont know anything about sw
- Crimsoninja

Sticking to your extensive knowledge of all things Kim Johnsson?

OMG I just vomited in my mouth. No. Vader was redeemed. He became a good guy again when he killed the emporor. And Vader did not decapitate the "old dude". He picked him up and threw him into the abyss.
- youarewrong

Was that before or after he defeated the Borg and made sure that Zephrym Cochrane made first contact with the Vulcans?

Also, not sure that killing an old man who's killing your son offsets the overseeing of the destruction of an entire planet.

And when did he throw Benny into the abyss? I thought he light sabred his head off.

Lidstrom
Pronger
Niedermayer
Chara
Stevens
- BiggE

Lidstrom
the rest

...okay fine:
Lidstrom
Chara
Pronger
Niedermayer
Sami Kapanen

Was that before or after he defeated the Borg and made sure that Zephrym Cochrane made first contact with the Vulcans?

Also, not sure that killing an old man who's killing your son offsets the overseeing of the destruction of an entire planet.

And when did he throw Benny into the abyss? I thought he light sabred his head off.
- jmatchett383

Well...Vader didnt actually destroy Alderaan. Tarkin did. And it was the love for his son that allowed him to over-come his darkside. A sith would have watched the emperor kill his son without blinking an eye.

Lidstrom
the rest

...okay fine:
Lidstrom
Chara
Pronger
Niedermayer
Sami Kapanen
- jmatchett383

One name I'm suprised no-one has mentioned is Rob Blake.

Your saying this to a guy with a Vader tatoo....
- youarewrong

That is pretty bad ass.

None of these muggles know the mastery that is Star Wars.

That is pretty bad ass.

None of these muggles know the mastery that is Star Wars.
- flyer_nutter

Who would you take in a fight: Gandalf, Ash, Darth Vader, or Sirius Black?

That is pretty bad ass.

None of these muggles know the mastery that is Star Wars.
- flyer_nutter

Yes Sir! But I think whether your a Star Wars geek, Trekkie, Potter fan, or whatever.... we all agree that Twilight SUX!

Who would you take in a fight: Gandalf, Ash, Darth Vader, or Sirius Black?
- jmatchett383

Im taking Vader. He would choke Sirius so he couldn't say a spell, force grab gandalfs staff, and force lightning Ash.

Then he would force influence Frodo to give him the ring of power.

Who would you take in a fight: Gandalf, Ash, Darth Vader, or Sirius Black?
- jmatchett383

More of a LOTR guy.

So I'd probably roll out with Samwise Gamgee.

Yes Sir! But I think whether your a Star Wars geek, Trekkie, Potter fan, or whatever.... we all agree that Twilight SUX!
- youarewrong

You know, I really honestly gave it a try (the movie). I really tried to get into it, but I couldn't. The girl has 3 facial expressions: indifferent (frown), turned on (slightly less of a frown), and upset (more of a frown). The guy (Cedric Diggory) has a looking of seething hatred on his face no matter what he's saying/feeling. The plot was boring, the acting was substandard, and I really didn't get what the take-home message was, other than vampires don't eat people. It left me very confused.

One name I'm suprised no-one has mentioned is Rob Blake.
- youarewrong

Ray Bourque and Al MacInnis say hi, too.