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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

May 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
Grabo was good too until this stomach thing or whatever.
- MapleLeafsFTW


Grabbo was good until he was pushed to the third line. Even in the playoffs, both him and kadri played better when Bozak got hurt.....well aside from the third period of game 7. But lets forget that poop.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

May 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
I read it somewhere in an article not sure which one but it said the avs are most likely trading him this summer since O'Rielly cannot be traded till a certain date or something like that. Same here always wanted to see Stastny come here and at a cheaper price than what everyone is thinking or saying. Joe Thorton will be costly but i think Stastny will be inexpensive. How sick of a deal would it be if we traded for Stastny and Erik Johnson, i dont know if avs would part for Johnson but could be an interesting deal
- Mapleleafs_91


Avs need D. No way we'd get Johnson.

Some deal centering around Stastny and Gunnarsson makes sense.

Stastny doesn't have a lot of value due to his contract. There are only a handful of teams that could afford him (both in cap space and real salary). Colorado certainly isn't even one of them.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 15 @ 4:19 PM ET
Avs need D. No way we'd get Johnson.

Some deal centering around Stastny and Gunnarsson makes sense.

Stastny doesn't have a lot of value due to his contract. There are only a handful of teams that could afford him (both in cap space and real salary). Colorado certainly isn't even one of them.

- Leeman4Gilmour


Yes i know avs need defense, what if we traded some our prospect defense in a deal for Johnson? Avs are drafting Jones, Johnson has underperformed for the Avs, what if the leafs let go of someone like percy, finn, or blacker? Throw in a guy like gunner in the deal as well, throw in holzer too? Gives them a prospect defender to work with if they choose Seth Jones as well in the draft. Plus our 1st rounder would most likely have to be included either this years or next.. Thats why i think a Stastny+Johnson deal for whatever Nonis offers would be something the avs would consider
MapleLeafsFTW
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 15 @ 4:20 PM ET
If they draft Jones, i can see them moving Johnson if we offer them a good deal, plus having Stastny in the deal is sort of a salary dump as well on their part, so could make a good deal out of it. Johnson has underachieved and underperformed with the avs, could very well need a change up.
- Mapleleafs_91


I could also see them keeping him because they're D would be very solid, I wonder if they would take Liles back as part of a Statsny trade. D was a huge problem there this year.
But for arguments sake I wonder what it would take?

Statsny and Johnson for ....?
MapleLeafsFTW
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 15 @ 4:20 PM ET
Grabbo was good until he was pushed to the third line. Even in the playoffs, both him and kadri played better when Bozak got hurt.....well aside from the third period of game 7. But lets forget that poop.
- mykokes


I still like Grabo and won't be happy to see him go even though it's a certain eventuality.
XxHarounXx
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sam Gagner dealt to Toronto for Gardiner+ - Cloutier, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

May 15 @ 4:21 PM ET
Any idea what Gardiner, Kadri and a 1st might get the Leafs?
- As_I_See_It

Omark + 2nd, MPS
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
I could also see them keeping him because they're D would be very solid, I wonder if they would take Liles back as part of a Statsny trade. D was a huge problem there this year.
But for arguments sake I wonder what it would take?

Statsny and Johnson for ....?

- MapleLeafsFTW


1st Rounder 2013
Gunner
Scrivens
Blacker/Finn/Percy
etc.

Not really sure
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

May 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
I still like Grabo and won't be happy to see him go even though it's a certain eventuality.
- MapleLeafsFTW

Agreed we can keep for a year and worse we can use the last buy out on him
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
I hope I am not the only one who wants nothing to do with Stastny .
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

May 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
I could also see them keeping him because they're D would be very solid, I wonder if they would take Liles back as part of a Statsny trade. D was a huge problem there this year.
But for arguments sake I wonder what it would take?

Statsny and Johnson for ....?

- MapleLeafsFTW


Gunnarsson, 1st, any prospect not named Rielly.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

May 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
Omark + 2nd, MPS
- XxHarounXx

I hate you right now
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
Ditto.

That pretty much solves the center problem. You move Grabo to clear up salary, then just hang on to Liles.

I'll go to my death bed swearing Liles was a decent player for us. He was very good before he had his lights turned out.

- Leeman4Gilmour



I also felt that he started regain some the old Liles towards the end of the season and in the playoffs. He was rushing and stepping up into the play more, and moving the puck better. I don't remember him making any huge mistakes in the last couple games of the series, but that could be because Phaneuf never got off the ice.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

May 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
I hope I am not the only one who wants nothing to do with Stastny .
- senstroll

How old is he?
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

May 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
Omark + 2nd, MPS
- XxHarounXx


I'd need to be getting Horcoff in that case.
MapleLeafsFTW
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 15 @ 4:24 PM ET
Agreed we can keep for a year and worse we can use the last buy out on him
- Yeti1181


I hope so, his value is about as low as it can get right now if we hang on to him and he has a good first half last season will just be a blip in an otherwise successful career so far, and then he'll have trade value which we can use to make the team better instead of just getting rid of him.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

May 15 @ 4:24 PM ET
I hope so, his value is about as low as it can get right now if we hang on to him and he has a good first half last season will just be a blip in an otherwise successful career so far, and then he'll have trade value which we can use to make the team better instead of just getting rid of him.
- MapleLeafsFTW

Nailed it
MapleLeafsFTW
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 15 @ 4:25 PM ET
Gunnarsson, 1st, any prospect not named Rielly.
- Leeman4Gilmour


Usually I'm against giving a first away but considering we'd potentially be getting a 25 year old former first overall I could swallow it. Maybe Gunnarson, 1rst, Colborne, rights to Bozak?
MapleLeafsFTW
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 15 @ 4:26 PM ET
Nailed it
- Yeti1181


Thanks I thought I was the only one who doesn't want to buy him out just yet.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 15 @ 4:26 PM ET
Usually I'm against giving a first away but considering we'd potentially be getting a 25 year old former first overall I could swallow it. Maybe Gunnarson, 1rst, Colborne, rights to Bozak?
- MapleLeafsFTW


I would not include colborne, probably a prospect defender like finn or blacker, colborne will be useful to us. Maybe Ashton can be traded?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 15 @ 4:26 PM ET
How old is he?
- Yeti1181


27ish
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

May 15 @ 4:27 PM ET
I've said it already, but I'll stick by it. The Leafs don't need a skilled centre, they need an error-free centre. A guy who can outlet to Kessel and Lupul and clean up the mess they might leave. Basically a better version of Bozak. I think Mike Richards is the ideal centre for this team, but I highly doubt he'll be available over the summer.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 15 @ 4:28 PM ET
I've said it already, but I'll stick by it. The Leafs don't need a skilled centre, they need an error-free centre. A guy who can outlet to Kessel and Lupul and clean up the mess they might leave. Basically a better version of Bozak. I think Mike Richards is the ideal centre for this team, but I highly doubt he'll be available over the summer.
- BetterCallSaul


Mike Richards would of been perfect but remember we would of had to trade kadri+ for him when he had the chance
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 15 @ 4:28 PM ET
has this been answered yet? what place are the leafs drafting?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

May 15 @ 4:28 PM ET
27ish
- senstroll

Right around is prime perhaps playing on a new team with better talent might surprise us. We ve had good luck with rejuvenating youngish players career. If it doesn't cost much I do it.
MapleLeafsFTW
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 15 @ 4:29 PM ET
I hope I am not the only one who wants nothing to do with Stastny .
- senstroll


He's pretty much a better version of Bozak.
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