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icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

May 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
If Pittsburgh was going to play a defensive power play like it did at the end of regulation and NOT go for the certain game winner (showed no effort to do so), then you had the wrong guys out there. Sutter, Morrow, Cooke, Adams, Dupes are the guys to have on the ice, if that is/was your plan. Hopefully our head coach learned some common sense from last night's gaffe. I can't believe fans can see the light, but the head coach can't.
- Oneonta Penguin


I'm so confused by the approach they took on that power play that I can't even type without getting angry!!!

Ok...I can type...sort of...

I'm lost on how a team that makes a living off of offensive zone pressure and power play goals can decide to DEFEND a 1 goal lead when they have a power play with less than two minutes to play.

I'm not saying you try to score a goal...but play as if you were trying to score a goal when it comes to puck possession.
TheRat14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: US of A
Joined: 04.09.2007

May 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
Because Karlsson wasn't throwing a hissy fit at the end of regulation last night???
- cap1681


OK. In retrospect you are right my friend. Even though he is one of my beloved Senators, Karlsson can whine and cry to the refs at times. Since I was able to acknowledge this fact, maybe you could acknowledge the fact that even though he has all-world class hockey talents, Crosby has all world class diving and embellishing talents as well. Go ahead, don't be afraid to speak the truth, it will make you feel better.
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

May 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
Hands down Crybaby wins the whiniest player. He taught all his fellow players how to drop to the ice when contact is made. Never saw a 240 lb player like Malkin fall to the ground so easily. Neal has learned well too. Even saw Iginla do it at one point. They all do it.
- lileapers


Wow...do you need glasses?

Malkin is about 210 lbs...
TheRat14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: US of A
Joined: 04.09.2007

May 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
I would say every player does it to some extent. But the Pens must teach this as every player seems to flop to the ice. I dont know that Callahan would just flop to the ice. Its comical to watch a Pen get hit up at the chest but their feet fly out flat from under them.
- lileapers


Callahan seems to do his best acting in the scrums. You are correct, the Pens have the worst divers in the league based on their propensity to flop.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

May 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
The 5 guys on the ice should have been:

Dupuis - Forechecks
Kunitz - Forechecks
Crosby - Smarter than Malkin
Orpik - Steady
Martin - Steady

Malkin and Letang should have been nowhere near the ice for that.

As Cooke being suspended for the High Stick, perhaps Karlsson should be suspended for repetitive diving. In all three games he has made like Greg Louganis.
TheRat14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: US of A
Joined: 04.09.2007

May 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
The 5 guys on the ice should have been:

Dupuis - Forechecks
Kunitz - Forechecks
Crosby - Smarter than Malkin
Orpik - Steady
Martin - Steady

Malkin and Letang should have been nowhere near the ice for that.

As Cooke being suspended for the High Stick, perhaps Karlsson should be suspended for repetitive diving. In all three games he has made like Greg Louganis.

- Ben37


How long have Orpik and Martin been going steady? Sometimes it is tough to work so closely with a person you are committed to.
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

May 20 @ 1:09 PM ET
How long have Orpik and Martin been going steady? Sometimes it is tough to work so closely with a person you are committed to.
- TheRat14


I think a few months less than you and Lileapers...
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 20 @ 1:11 PM ET
Shots: Pittsburgh 50, Ottawa 48.

A fairly slim margin.

Definitely had the balance of play in overtime, and generated some additional shots on the PP, though.

- Mr_Clean


My bad, I thought the margin was larger. We sure had some good looks but Anderson was a wall!
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 20 @ 1:13 PM ET
Callahan seems to do his best acting in the scrums. You are correct, the Pens have the worst divers in the league based on their propensity to flop.
- TheRat14


Giroux, Skinner and Couture are the three biggest embellishers in the game today. You don't watch much hockey. Watch more.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 20 @ 1:13 PM ET
OK. In retrospect you are right my friend. Even though he is one of my beloved Senators, Karlsson can whine and cry to the refs at times. Since I was able to acknowledge this fact, maybe you could acknowledge the fact that even though he has all-world class hockey talents, Crosby has all world class diving and embellishing talents as well. Go ahead, don't be afraid to speak the truth, it will make you feel better.
- TheRat14


He embellishes, just like every great player does. It's the haters out there that like to think he does it more then everybody else.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 20 @ 1:14 PM ET
Take a poll is he whiniest team in the NHL and the whiniest player, you know who they are, it's a fact not an observation
- tuna99


It's not measureable, it's not science and therefore not a fact. It's called an opinion. Yours is based on your somewhat biased view, got it.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

May 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
Giroux, Skinner and Couture are the three biggest embellishers in the game today. You don't watch much hockey. Watch more.
- Oneonta Penguin


Karlsson is joining their ranks.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
Yup...didn't know that.

Giroux just got finished with the World's...almost as good as the playoffs. Gonna have to check back next week for his golf scores.

- wolfhounds


The Worlds might be the biggest joke of them all. It's like trying to have the World Championship of Golf the same four day period as the Masters.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 20 @ 1:20 PM ET
Karlsson is joining their ranks.
- Ben37


For a guy who doesn't have a letter on his sweater, he talks to the officials a lot.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
Giroux, Skinner and Couture are the three biggest embellishers in the game today. You don't watch much hockey. Watch more.
- Oneonta Penguin


Giroux? One of the biggest embellishers? No, sorry. I understand you hate all things Flyers, but that statement's got no legs to stand on.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
Giroux? One of the biggest embellishers? No, sorry. I understand you hate all things Flyers, but that statement's got no legs to stand on.
- wolfhounds


HMMM ... maybe you should heed your own advice about not having legs to stand on regarding some of your comments that I've seen.

Giroux embellishes - its simple.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

May 20 @ 1:26 PM ET
For a guy who doesn't have a letter on his sweater, he talks to the officials a lot.
- cap1681

That's minor. Detroit used to have like 13 guys who would talk to the officials after every call. It was never Yzerman or Lidstrom though. It was guys like Draper and Kirk Maltby.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 20 @ 1:27 PM ET
The Worlds might be the biggest joke of them all. It's like trying to have the World Championship of Golf the same four day period as the Masters.
- Oneonta Penguin


What do you mean, too many games in a condensed period?

I'm not sure why NHLers play in the tournament, especially right after the season ends. I can understand AHL players participating for the experience, keep improving, to stay in shape, etc.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 20 @ 1:28 PM ET
The 5 guys on the ice should have been:

Dupuis - Forechecks
Kunitz - Forechecks
Crosby - Smarter than Malkin
Orpik - Steady
Martin - Steady

Malkin and Letang should have been nowhere near the ice for that.

As Cooke being suspended for the High Stick, perhaps Karlsson should be suspended for repetitive diving. In all three games he has made like Greg Louganis.

- Ben37


That's the exact group I voted for.

A couple other observations....

I'm starting to believe that Duper deserves some PP time. Night in and night out, he is one of the best players on the ice.

I'm pretty sure I don't want Morrow or Iggy back next year.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

May 20 @ 1:30 PM ET
Giroux? One of the biggest embellishers? No, sorry. I understand you hate all things Flyers, but that statement's got no legs to stand on.
- wolfhounds



Neither does Giroux from the looks of things!


I have no vested interest in this argument, I don't know if he is a diver or not
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 20 @ 1:30 PM ET
HMMM ... maybe you should heed your own advice about not having legs to stand on regarding some of your comments that I've seen.

Giroux embellishes - its simple.

- Oneonta Penguin


Heh, how did this come to be about me?

Meh. Nearly every player embellishes from time to time, I wouldn't debate that. I would debate Giroux is one of the "biggest embellishers".
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 20 @ 1:32 PM ET
Neither does Giroux from the looks of things!


I have no vested interest in this argument, I don't know if he is a diver or not

- david22


drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

May 20 @ 1:32 PM ET
Woowww. If Bylsma thinks they scored because alfredsson made a "good drop pass" then he's more stupid than i thought
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 20 @ 1:34 PM ET
Another observation...

How can a sane man choose to play Tanner Glass over Jussi Jokinen? One guy can play in every situation and win's face offs. The other guy is a fringe NHL'r who didn't get his first point 'til the season was almost over.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 20 @ 1:37 PM ET
Another observation...

How can a sane man choose to play Tanner Glass over Jussi Jokinen? One guy can play in every situation and win's face offs. The other guy is a fringe NHL'r who didn't get his first point 'til the season was almost over.

- madmike71


I've heard some people say that Jokinen is injured. Playing Glass over Jokinen would add fuel to that rumor.
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