I don't really watch hockey that way...It's the blatant sh*t that really pisses me off...The elbow to Chara's face in that Ranger series that wasn't call is mind boggling to me...
- Flyfreaky

I think it was the Callahan high stick to Chara's face right in front of the ref and no call, that was brutal.

Yes, Lou, you know exactly what I'm talking about...
- Flyfreaky

cept there was no hit from behind.. his elbow planted square into gunnar's chest

at least thats the video i am seeing.. anyone have a highlight of this hit from behind?

Why even have refs?
- Flyfreaky

Whats even more annoying with the bad refs, is now theres more of them to get in the way. Go back to a three man crew, and let all three make calls. Guys like Grezkey, Messier, and today Crosby always get the benefit of the non call. Thats just the way it is.

here is the thing.

if the leafs had won and it was the boston fans moaning about poop we'd all be saying "oh its playoff hockey, thats the way it goes"

blaming the refs is childish.

the leafs lost. the refs didnt lose for them. anything else, to me.. is nothing more than whining and crying.
- Dozzer

I disagree. The respectable fans are usually aware when the home side gets lucky thanks to some calls/non-calls that were made, and we say as much. The point is that this shouldn't happen as much. The NHL has too much referee-judgment caused controversy. Look at the 'kicking motion' rule. If that wasn't a kick in the OTT/MTL series, I don't know what is. They need to take the judgment out of the call and say if the skate doesn't leave the ice, it's a goal - kick or no kick.

Speculative. Nothing to prove it.
- Leeman4Gilmour

so if the leafs had won you would be talking about how the refs burned the bruins?

sure sure

I think it was the Callahan high stick to Chara's face right in front of the ref and no call, that was brutal.
- LeafMan

That's how I watch hockey regardless of who's playing...I'll own up to bad calls that help the Flyers win...I'll still take the win, but with a clean conscience...

I disagree. The respectable fans are usually aware when the home side gets lucky thanks to some calls/non-calls that were made, and we say as much. The point is that this shouldn't happen as much. The NHL has too much referee-judgment caused controversy. Look at the 'kicking motion' rule. If that wasn't a kick in the OTT/MTL series, I don't know what is. They need to take the judgment out of the call and say if the skate doesn't leave the ice, it's a goal - kick or no kick.
- 1979AD

oh god.. stop blaming the refs

i just think its a child's excuse.. and i ALWAYS will

oh god.. stop blaming the refs

i just think its a child's excuse.. and i ALWAYS will
- Dozzer

What did I blame the refs for?

so if the leafs had won you would be talking about how the refs burned the bruins?

sure sure
- Dozzer

I agree with everything you say, I just don't like the whistle swallowing and they should keep making the blatant calls (good or bad) until the game is over...

This is absolutely hilarious, btw.

here is the thing.

if the leafs had won and it was the boston fans moaning about poop we'd all be saying "oh its playoff hockey, thats the way it goes"

blaming the refs is childish.

the leafs lost. the refs didnt lose for them. anything else, to me.. is nothing more than whining and crying.
- Dozzer

The Leafs lost. I'm not bringing that game into the conversation.

But the "let the boys play" argument doesn't work for me. Because the boys are trying to play, and the other team is trying to prevent them from playing.

The reffing is a joke. And I don't blame the referees one bit. That's how the league wants them to call it, and they do a good job.

They need to tell them to start calling penalties, regardless of time of game or time of season.

Everyone hated the obstruction calls. It was ruining the game. It was a parade to the penalty box.

20 games later, the players got it. And it saved the game.

What's needed is the resolve to keep calling the penalties. And that will just isn't there.

This is absolutely hilarious, btw.
- Pecafan Fan

Don't you and Rob Ford have a party to attend?

here is the thing.

if the leafs had won and it was the boston fans moaning about poop we'd all be saying "oh its playoff hockey, thats the way it goes"

blaming the refs is childish.

the leafs lost. the refs didnt lose for them. anything else, to me.. is nothing more than whining and crying.
- Dozzer

If Boston lost we had a long list of blame before the Refs were even thought of.
Seguin,.Rask,. Clode, useless powerplay,.and on and on and on

This is absolutely hilarious, btw.
- Pecafan Fan

Damn Refs

hscesq ™

I agree with everything you say, I just don't like the whistle swallowing and they should keep making the blatant calls (good or bad) until the game is over...
- Flyfreaky

That's also BS. "Let them play" near the end of a close game... then it inevitably escalates until there's a blatant call that can't be ignored and one team benefits. Why not call the whole game consistently.

What did I blame the refs for?
- 1979AD

read your post.. you are critiquing the reffing in the NHL

its fine.. ev eryone has to deal with the same ref.. and thats the bottom line.

The Leafs lost. I'm not bringing that game into the conversation.

But the "let the boys play" argument doesn't work for me. Because the boys are trying to play, and the other team is trying to prevent them from playing.

The reffing is a joke. And I don't blame the referees one bit. That's how the league wants them to call it, and they do a good job.

They need to tell them to start calling penalties, regardless of time of game or time of season.

Everyone hated the obstruction calls. It was ruining the game. It was a parade to the penalty box.

20 games later, the players got it. And it saved the game.

What's needed is the resolve to keep calling the penalties. And that will just isn't there.
- Atomic Wedgie

My work here is done...

have you ever removed a nose hair, to be confronted with a veritable monster, 4-5X larger(and thicker) than any nose hair should be?
- Feeling Glucky?

No Senior Eyebrows

Damn Refs

hscesq ™
- LeafMan

We've gotten WAY past the "damn refs" thing.

We're at the "let's review the complete rule book and the way the game is called" stage.

If Orr did it he would have been suspended for 18 games...
- Flyfreaky

Keep in mind that Orr got 2 minutes for merely attempting to throw an elbow at Chara's head (caught him in the shoulder).

JVR, one of our best players a series, gets his nose broken on a play that even the Google Earth cameras could have seen was a blatant elbow and it's nothing because it's the playoffs and penalties are decided by coin flip.

I just don't understand how it's possible to play a fair 60+ minutes in these conditions.

And the NHL is the only league that has so many that "Oh well, we lost track" is a legitimate excuse.

oh hell..

i am still waiting for this supposed from behind hit on gunnar btw lol

We've gotten WAY past the "damn refs" thing.

We're at the "let's review the complete rule book and the way the game is called" stage.
- Pecafan Fan

I really think this was the year the Leafs were gonna win it all...

anyways, home time for me.. cheers everyone

I really think this was the year the Leafs were gonna win it all...
- Flyfreaky

I see.

oh hell..

i am still waiting for this supposed from behind hit on gunnar btw lol


- Dozzer

I'll have to check my sources...