As much as I hate them, LA really doesnt have too many soft players.

Carter and?
- flyer_nutter

This guy is the softest player in the NHL!

Can't take anyone seriously that was drafted 11 picks after that all world waiver wire stiff Nodl!

Hartnell and Simmonds are big bodies on a smallish team. They have good hands too. If we trade one of these guys for D it opens up a gaping hole in the forward ranks. And don't give me tye McGinn.

I've backed off the flyers a bit and have watched the rest of the league

1. Laughton is a player that they desperately need to pan out next year
2. Buyout Briere. I don't want to see major trades. I need another year of coots and schenn
3. I like grossman. But wouldnt mind seeing him traded to bring a off dman in like Mcbain
- Just5

Why do they desperately need Laughton to pan out? He's very young, and there is going to be ups and downs. And growing pains.

This guy is the softest guy in the NHL!

Can't take anyone seriously that was drafted 11 picks after that all world waiver wire stiff Nodl!


- PLindbergh31

You should play the powerball since the winner has already been determined

OK, so I liked the Kings for years, but I have to admit I'm starting to get sick of seeing their ex-Flyer products score goals en route to the Cup.

Don't underestimate the wonders of modern medicine. Back problems for today's athletes aren't what they were 20 years ago. I'm sure it nags him from time to time but unless he has significant damage to the nerves he should be good to go. Also not saying your wrong but this is the first I've read of Edler being called a number 4 defenseman. Maybe I misunderstood what you wrote if so I apologize.
- JoeRussomanno

Edler is a legitimate top pairing two way defenseman. Labeling him a #4 defenseman isn't accurate. The back surgery was over two years ago. Since then, hasn't missed any significant time. Edler is exactly what the Flyers need.

Why do they desperately need Laughton to pan out? He's very young, and there is going to be ups and downs. And growing pains.
- MJL

I thought the same thing when read that. Laughton is a luxury as we already have so many young centers.

OK, so I liked the Kings for years, but I have to admit I'm starting to get sick of seeing their ex-Flyer products score goals en route to the Cup.
- exlund

I thought for sure Carter would break his foot tonight, or clang one off Niemi's mask. Those days are over.

The one thing that does give me a little comfort is the fact that they for the most part seemed to be built toward an aggressive team.

The forwards fit that mold, and so does the coaching. I dont think Holmgren wanted the D he got this year, being so defensively orientated/limited. On the other hand he also got it shoved up his ass just how hard it is to obtain quality d-men.

Although his comments about the league seemingly shifting to a more defensive approach, make you wonder...

We will see what they do.
- flyer_nutter

They're close to mastery when it comes to drafting forwards in the first rnd, even though they draft a lot of centers w/ similar skill sets to what they already have. Every GM knows the flyers are desperate for d, so we'll see if homer can avoid an overpmt.

Then they trade it away. The objective is to build a team based on how you want to play, then add pieces that can make that team a real cup contender. right now there are many teams doing this better than the flyers. Let's see if homer can make measured changes w/o having to reboot yet again.
- isaiah520

I think it's the opposite. Play the way that suits your personnel. We saw that mistake with the Flyers this past Season in terms of style of play. Flyers had one bad Season. They'll bounce back.

Edler is a legitimate top pairing two way defenseman. Labeling him a #4 defenseman isn't accurate. The back surgery was over two years ago. Since then, hasn't missed any significant time. Edler is exactly what the Flyers need.
- MJL

Edler Schenn would be a good top line for the next few years. If they can do it without moving the 1st things will turn around for this team sooner rayher than later.

Edler is a legitimate top pairing two way defenseman. Labeling him a #4 defenseman isn't accurate. The back surgery was over two years ago. Since then, hasn't missed any significant time. Edler is exactly what the Flyers need.
- MJL

exactly. which means if simmonds must be sacrificed, i dont know why there is much pause.

Man the Kings just dont give you any room, will be a tough team as assembled for a while. Great mix of two way forwards, defense, solid tender.
- flyerfan28

They play the game the right way. Laviolette should take notes. From their puck support, to their re groups both offensively and defensively. The breakout game. Everything. They show how you can be aggressive and smart. They just don't make a lot of mistakes. And when they do, Quick erases them.

As much as I hate them, LA really doesnt have too many soft players.

Carter and?
- flyer_nutter

There's no way you can watch that game and call Carter soft. That's just rehashing a myth. He's made numerous strong plays on the puck.

They're close to mastery when it comes to drafting forwards in the first rnd, even though they draft a lot of centers w/ similar skill sets to what they already have. Every GM knows the flyers are desperate for d, so we'll see if homer can avoid an overpmt.
- isaiah520

Right now this defense core is in tatters. Coburn coming off probably the worst season of his career. Throw in the fact Grossmann and Meszaros are being held together by spit and glue.

That leaves Timonen. He played well at times last year, but he's no longer a # 1A. Schenn hopefully continues to blossom, and I believe Gustafsson can be a serviceable third pairing guy. Flyers need Coburn to rebound to have any semblance of a solid blueline.

They play the game the right way. Laviolette should take notes. From their puck support, to their re groups both offensively and defensively. The breakout game. Everything. They show how you can be aggressive and smart. They just don't make a lot of mistakes. And when they do, Quick erases them.
- MJL

Yeap I agree.

They built a whole new team after homer took over, which was necessary...swore they would only trade youth for youth...lost patience and traded for pronger... Lost patience and made the impetuous move for bryz and deemed the new core to be G and jvr, along w/ the new injection of young talent...gave up on Bob because of the bryz move and dumped jvr because he desperately needed a dman chasing ufa rainbows....now the lack of a puck mover could mean b schenn or couts are out...round & round we go.
- isaiah520

Adding a franchise defenseman and a top Goalie isn't losing patience. It's building a team. And trying to fortify the two most important positions on the ice. They traded JVR for Luke Schenn because it was a good trade that helped the team. Nothing to do with chasing ufa rainbows. That deal was made in June. Before Free Agency. Every team makes trades of young players and assets to bolster a need. That is how you build a team.

Its all good as long as we keep chasing the cup. Maybe a hundred years from now they will recapture that glory of winning it all.
- stveshdy

I think we are at least 2 yrs away from genuine cup contention, but we can get there if we get the right mix on d and straighten out the goalie situation.

I think we are at least 2 yrs away from genuine cup contention, but we can get there if we get the right mix on d and straighten out the goalie situation.
- isaiah520

2 years puts the drought at four (frank)ing decades. No excuse for that when you have the type of resources the Flyers franchise has.

Right now this defense core is in tatters. Coburn coming off probably the worst season of his career. Throw in the fact Grossmann and Meszaros are being held together by spit and glue.

That leaves Timonen. He played well at times last year, but he's no longer a # 1A. Schenn hopefully continues to blossom, and I believe Gustafsson can be a serviceable third pairing guy. Flyers need Coburn to rebound to have any semblance of a solid blueline.
- PLindbergh31

That's an overreaction. They have some injury concerns with Meszaros and Grossmann. But thinking positively, they have a good group. I think Gustafsson is going to be a solid player. They really just need a top puck mover, and they have a solid defense.

They play the game the right way. Laviolette should take notes. From their puck support, to their re groups both offensively and defensively. The breakout game. Everything. They show how you can be aggressive and smart. They just don't make a lot of mistakes. And when they do, Quick erases them.
- MJL

ridiculously well assembled to fit their philosophy. a perfect mix of synergy between the roster and system. guys like kopitar with talent to spare yet still committed to the two way game. dont get me wrong, quick is a stud, but the team in front of him sure helps.

2 years puts the drought at four (frank)ing decades. No excuse for that when you have the type of resources the Flyers franchise has.
- PLindbergh31

Yet everything, and every player that suits up, or ever has for the crew is made of gold.

Sometimes a little bit too much of orange coloured glasses. Blind hope shall guide us! Ye shall question nothing.

I think we are at least 2 yrs away from genuine cup contention, but we can get there if we get the right mix on d and straighten out the goalie situation.
- isaiah520

I agree. I think that is a realistic time table.

ridiculously well assembled to fit their philosophy. a perfect mix of synergy between the roster and system. guys like kopitar with talent to spare yet still committed to the two way game. dont get me wrong, quick is a stud, but the team in front of him sure helps.
- stayinthefnnet

Every forward on that team is committed to the two way game. They are always on the right side of the puck. And they are so well Coached. Watching them play, versus the way the Flyers play, makes me ill. They play a smart aggressive system.

They play the game the right way. Laviolette should take notes. From their puck support, to their re groups both offensively and defensively. The breakout game. Everything. They show how you can be aggressive and smart. They just don't make a lot of mistakes. And when they do, Quick erases them.
- MJL

They're the best team up and down the lineup. I'm very impressed w/ some of the young plyrs on SJ that are making the sharks a tough out, though.

Yet everything, and every player that suits up, or ever has for the crew is made of gold.

Sometimes a little bit too much of orange coloured glasses. Blind hope shall guide us! Ye shall question nothing.
- flyer_nutter

They all poop rainbows peanut.