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Jack-Meoff
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
I read an article on SB nation today that Colorado is shopping the 1st overall pick around.

Would you trade the flyers 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th pick for Colorado's first?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
HE'S AWFUL! DUDE'S NEVER WON A THING! BURN HIM BUUUUURRRRN HIM!
- jmatchett383


How do you know he is awful?! Did he turn you in to a newt?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 29 @ 1:55 PM ET
I read an article on SB nation today that Colorado is shopping the 1st overall pick around.

Would you trade the flyers 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th pick for Colorado's first?

- Jack-Meoff


Try adding next year's first and top-6 forward to the deal to even get a return call from COL.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 29 @ 1:57 PM ET
I read an article on SB nation today that Colorado is shopping the 1st overall pick around.

Would you trade the flyers 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th pick for Colorado's first?

- Jack-Meoff


I think they're just fishing.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

May 29 @ 1:58 PM ET
I think they're just fishing.
- johndewar


I think so too, what kind of value exactly does a #1 pick hold? You are probably going to trade very very good player or two for someone that may or may not pan out.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 29 @ 2:00 PM ET
I read an article on SB nation today that Colorado is shopping the 1st overall pick around.
- Jack-Meoff


If you watch the Roy presser, his mention of trading/not trading/whatever was in response to a question about what his role in player-personnel decisions would be. He was just saying that they'd discuss all possibilities as a group. People have seized on that and somehow turned it into "Roy's trying to move the 1st-overall pick".


Would you trade the flyers 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th pick for Colorado's first?


I posted this in Esplen's thread earlier this morning:

It's been over 10-years since any team has moved 1st-overall, and it's only moved four times in the past 30-years.

Plus, historically, you'd first need at least a top-4 pick in the same draft to have any kind of shot at moving up to 1st-overall:

1999 VAN used #4 to move up to #1,
1999 ATL used #2 to move up to #1,
2002 CBJ used #3 to move up to #1,
2003 PIT used #3 to move up to #1



As for trading every pick in the draft to move up, it's been tried before, and oddly failed. Of course, the two GMs involved were Snow and Howsen, lol.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 29 @ 2:05 PM ET
I like Mantha and Carrier.

Good move for the Rags to fire Torts.

Thoughts for the day.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 29 @ 2:07 PM ET
How do you know he is awful?! Did he turn you in to a newt?
- MBFlyerfan


...I got betta...
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 29 @ 2:10 PM ET

Good move for the Rags to fire Torts.


- NickTheKid87


I wonder if they are going after Lindy Ruff.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 29 @ 2:14 PM ET
I read an article on SB nation today that Colorado is shopping the 1st overall pick around.

Would you trade the flyers 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th pick for Colorado's first?

- Jack-Meoff


All those picks + Voracek + next years 1st and Colorado would consider.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 29 @ 2:14 PM ET
I wonder if they are going after Lindy Ruff.
- johndewar


Cue speculation.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
I read an article on SB nation today that Colorado is shopping the 1st overall pick around.

Would you trade the flyers 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th pick for Colorado's first?

- Jack-Meoff


Would I? In a heartbeat.

Colorado would laugh me off the phone, then call back several more times to continue laughing.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 29 @ 2:21 PM ET
I wonder if they are going after Lindy Ruff.
- johndewar



Am I the only one who doesn't see the aura of genius that supposedly surrounds Lindy Ruff?

Aside from inexplicable longevity, and one Finals appearance, what exactly are his overwhelming credentials?

He's the first name off everybody's lips lately, and I just have no idea why.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 29 @ 2:22 PM ET
Am I the only one who doesn't see the aura of genius that supposedly surrounds Lindy Ruff?

Aside from inexplicable longevity, and one Finals appearance, what exactly are his overwhelming credentials?

He's the first name off everybody's lips lately, and I just have no idea why.

- Tomahawk


I'm with you. He is an ok coach, nothing more.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 29 @ 2:24 PM ET
Am I the only one who doesn't see the aura of genius that supposedly surrounds Lindy Ruff?

Aside from inexplicable longevity, and one Finals appearance, what exactly are his overwhelming credentials?

He's the first name off everybody's lips lately, and I just have no idea why.

- Tomahawk



I have to agree with you. Don't get the hype. Maybe it's just the respect for how long he's been around.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 29 @ 2:24 PM ET
I like Mantha and Carrier.

Good move for the Rags to fire Torts.

Thoughts for the day.

- NickTheKid87

will the Flyers win a cup before Snider dies?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
The more that I think of it.. the more I love the idea of the Flyers getting Torts
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 29 @ 2:26 PM ET
All those picks + Voracek + next years 1st and Colorado would consider.
- NickTheKid87

Thats an absurd amount....
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 29 @ 2:26 PM ET
Am I the only one who doesn't see the aura of genius that supposedly surrounds Lindy Ruff?

Aside from inexplicable longevity, and one Finals appearance, what exactly are his overwhelming credentials?

He's the first name off everybody's lips lately, and I just have no idea why.

- Tomahawk

I agree with this sentiment. I don't think he's awful or anything, but I don't get all the hype.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
The more that I think of it.. the more I love the idea of the Flyers getting Torts
- jak521

It'd certainly force the media to split at least some of their attention away from Bryzgalov
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 29 @ 2:28 PM ET
Thats an absurd amount....
- jak521


Which is what getting the 1st overall pick takes unless you're drafting in the top 3-4.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 29 @ 2:28 PM ET
It'd certainly force the media to split at least some of their attention away from Bryzgalov
- BulliesPhan87

Exactly my point. He would kill our media. Awww mannn!!!! Seriously, we need to hire Torts RIGHT NOW.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 29 @ 2:28 PM ET
The more that I think of it.. the more I love the idea of the Flyers getting Torts
- jak521



If you think Brad Richards was deep in the doghouse, they'd have to invent a new term for the dark, dank hole that Hartnell would be locked in if Torts were behind the bench.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 29 @ 2:30 PM ET
Exactly my point. He would kill our media. Awww mannn!!!! Seriously, we need to hire Torts RIGHT NOW.
- jak521

And then use a CBO on him next offseason! Brilliant!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 29 @ 2:30 PM ET
The more that I think of it.. the more I love the idea of the Flyers getting Torts
- jak521

as their GM
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