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Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 10.15.2007

May 30 @ 8:26 PM ET
From Bob mcKenzie on Twitter..

@TSNBobMcKenzie: DiPietro's buyout is steep, $1.5M per year for next 16 years, not to be confused with Luongo's buyout #s: a shade over $1.5M x 18 years.



Genius !
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

May 30 @ 8:31 PM ET
http://youtu.be/6VkGWPlK_A8

For you.

- dadeadhead


~@6:30

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 30 @ 8:33 PM ET
From Bob mcKenzie on Twitter..

@TSNBobMcKenzie: DiPietro's buyout is steep, $1.5M per year for next 16 years, not to be confused with Luongo's buyout #s: a shade over $1.5M x 18 years.



Genius !

- Pairo11



The compliance buyout I thought was a one lump sum payment of 2/3rds the remaining money on the contract?

DiPietro would get a $24 mil check.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 30 @ 8:33 PM ET
~@6:30


- theblueandgold



That fiddle player is quite good.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 30 @ 8:37 PM ET
16th+ Sekera+2nd for the 7th.

7th+8th+2nd for 2nd overall
Draft Mackinnon

navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

May 30 @ 8:46 PM ET
http://youtu.be/6VkGWPlK_A8

For you.

- dadeadhead

Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
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May 30 @ 8:50 PM ET
The compliance buyout I thought was a one lump sum payment of 2/3rds the remaining money on the contract?

DiPietro would get a $24 mil check.

- dadeadhead

I think you're right. I think these figures could be the amortization of the cap hits (??)

But I have no idea and I DIDN'T stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
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May 30 @ 8:51 PM ET

- navinrjohnson

Hi Navin
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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May 30 @ 8:54 PM ET

- navinrjohnson



http://youtu.be/wFlBQqNK_Wo


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 30 @ 9:09 PM ET
16th+ Sekera+2nd for the 7th.

7th+8th+2nd for 2nd overall
Draft Mackinnon

- sbroads24


Why would Florida trade down? Both them and the Oilers would probably only trade out for a ridiculous overpayment of NHL ready players. Would have to be something like:

Myers + 8 + Nelson for Florida/Tampa's pick.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
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May 30 @ 9:11 PM ET
http://youtu.be/wFlBQqNK_Wo



- dadeadhead

Danny Trejo's brother..



Pretty interesting story though.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 30 @ 9:11 PM ET
Ryan Kennedy ‏@

Hanging out at the draft combine today and it's funny: kids have all said different teams for toughest interview: OTT,BUF, MTL and SJ so far

- gerbe75pts


Toughest by far
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 30 @ 9:21 PM ET
Why would Florida trade down? Both them and the Oilers would probably only trade out for a ridiculous overpayment of NHL ready players. Would have to be something like:

Myers + 8 + Nelson for Florida/Tampa's pick.

- Sabresfan-365

Edmonton might move down. People way exaggerate what it takes to move up on the draft. We moved up 7 spots last year for Girgensons in the top 15 for a 2nd round pick that they gave us the year before.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

May 30 @ 9:31 PM ET
Edmonton might move down. People way exaggerate what it takes to move up on the draft. We moved up 7 spots last year for Girgensons in the top 15 for a 2nd round pick that they gave us the year before.
- sbroads24


Moving up from 21 to 14...the difference in skill level between those two picks is usually miniscule. Chances are both players drafted in that area will be relatively close in terms of production but the same can't be said for whoever is going 2nd overall. That guy will likely be an elite player with the potential to win a couple of individual awards versus drafting a very good player at 7,8,15 or 16.

I'll use last years draft as an example:
How much better is Girgensons(14th) compared to Laughton(20th)? Now compare that to Derrick Pouliout(8th) versus Alex Galchenyuk (2nd). It may not take as much to move up from 21st to 14, but it will definitely take a kings ransom to get into the top three.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

May 30 @ 9:33 PM ET
Edmonton might move down. People way exaggerate what it takes to move up on the draft. We moved up 7 spots last year for Girgensons in the top 15 for a 2nd round pick that they gave us the year before.
- sbroads24


I dont see FLA trading out of #2 for just draft picks
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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May 30 @ 9:36 PM ET
Moving up from 21 to 14...the difference in skill level between those two picks is usually miniscule. Chances are both players drafted in that area will be relatively close in terms of production but the same can't be said for whoever is going 2nd overall. That guy will likely be an elite player with the potential to win a couple of individual awards versus drafting a very good player at 7,8,15 or 16.

I'll use last years draft as an example:
How much better is Girgensons(14th) compared to Laughton(20th)? Now compare that to Derrick Pouliout(8th) versus Alex Galchenyuk (2nd). It may not take as much to move up from 21st to 14, but it will definitely take a kings ransom to get into the top three.

- Sabresfan-365

Ok but how much better is Galchenyuk than Trouba and Pouliot? I agree FLA won't trade that pick and it was just a scenario, however Edmonton IMO would gladly take a solid roster player like Sekera and move back 9 spots, you gotta think they want to have a competitive team sometime soon
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

May 30 @ 9:40 PM ET
Ok but how much better is Galchenyuk than Trouba and Pouliot? I agree FLA won't trade that pick and it was just a scenario, however Edmonton IMO would gladly take a solid roster player like Sekera and move back 9 spots, you gotta think they want to have a competitive team sometime soon
- sbroads24



Much better (although I am fond of Trouba). Adding Sekera doesn't make them a great playoff team, he's a solid 2nd pair defensemen,those guys are available all the time on the trade market and in free agency. If Monahan falls to 7, there's no way Edmonton deals that pick for sekera and to move back in the draft.

I agree they will be looking to be competitive ASAP but I have to think that they'll probably want to package that pick with a prospect and roster player for someone far better than Sekera (i.e Yandle)
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 30 @ 9:42 PM ET
Much better (although I am fond of Trouba). Adding Sekera doesn't make them a great playoff team, he's a solid 2nd pair defensemen,those guys are available all the time on the trade market and in free agency. If a guy like Monahan falls to 7, there's not way Edmonton deals that pick for sekera and to move back in the draft.

I agree they will be looking to be competitive ASAP but I have to think that they'll probably want to package that pick with a prospect and roster player for someone far better than Sekera (i.e Yandle)

- Sabresfan-365

There's no way IMO that PHO gives up Yandle to move up a few spots. Maybe Gormley.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

May 30 @ 9:44 PM ET
Moving up from 21 to 14...the difference in skill level between those two picks is usually miniscule. Chances are both players drafted in that area will be relatively close in terms of production but the same can't be said for whoever is going 2nd overall. That guy will likely be an elite player with the potential to win a couple of individual awards versus drafting a very good player at 7,8,15 or 16.

I'll use last years draft as an example:
How much better is Girgensons(14th) compared to Laughton(20th)? Now compare that to Derrick Pouliout(8th) versus Alex Galchenyuk (2nd). It may not take as much to move up from 21st to 14, but it will definitely take a kings ransom to get into the top three.

- Sabresfan-365


Is there a reason you compared Laughton instead of Jankowski, who went in the actual pick that Buffalo traded from?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

May 30 @ 9:51 PM ET
Is there a reason you compared Laughton instead of Jankowski, who went in the actual pick that Buffalo traded from?
- theblueandgold


Yes there is, 20% because Laughton and Girgensons play the same position but mostly because the Flames are idiots. They drafted a guy that in all likely hood they could have gotten in the second round with the pick we gave them.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

May 30 @ 10:14 PM ET
Yes there is, 20% because Laughton and Girgensons play the same position but mostly because the Flames are idiots. They drafted a guy that in all likely hood they could have gotten in the second round with the pick we gave them.
- Sabresfan-365


Well Jankowski plays center too. Like Girg, he also was going to be a freshman for an NCAA team. While I really like the way Girgensons developed this year and am excited for his future, a part of me wishes we stayed put at 21 and kept both 2nd round picks.

We couldve had like Gaunce + McCabe + Frk over Girgensons + McCabe
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 30 @ 10:17 PM ET
Well Jankowski plays center too. Like Girg, he also was going to be a freshman for an NCAA team. While I really like the way Girgensons developed this year and am excited for his future, a part of me wishes we stayed put at 21 and kept both 2nd round picks.

We couldve had like Samuelsson + McCabe + Frk over Girgensons + McCabe

- theblueandgold







theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 03.05.2009

May 31 @ 10:14 AM ET




- dadeadhead


Grigorenko was Samuelsson, and Gaunce wouldve been Girgensons



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