And Couts still has 4-5 years to develop a great offensive game before he even reaches Toews's age. That's half a decade before he's even considered a young player on the verge of his prime. Give him time.
- JAKEw1234

He has two years to Captain a cup winning team, like Toews did at that age.

Zuus

He has two years to Captain a cup winning team, like Toews did at that age.
- Just5

I don't think he's getting the c anytime soon.

Not defensive at all. Just stating the facts.
- MJL

Couturier has the leadership, work ethic, and maturity of J toews. Traits like he has help him develop better than you're everyday prospect, imo. It's why I think Lauridsen will be better than a 7th dman, which is what many consider his ceiling to be. He has the work ethic of a horse, and I think that will translate in him developing better.
- JAKEw1234

Just curious as to how you know this?

La looks overmatched in this series. Looks like chi town in 5
- JoeRussomanno

One of the first times in the last few years worth of playoffs that I've seen LA on the bad side of a clinic....

Not defensive at all. Just stating the facts.
- MJL

Just the basic facts.....

....can ya tell me where it hurts?

I don't think he's getting the c anytime soon.
- JoeRussomanno

Maybe after we trade G for the #1 pick.

Maybe after we trade G for the #1 pick.
- 77rams

I might actually disown this franchise if they're that stupid.

I'm as big of a Coots fan as anybody. My basic point is I don't think you can't collect enough elite talent. I certainly agree the Flyers need defensive help, but should the Flyers bypass potentially getting an elite forward to draft a good d-man in the first round of this year's draft because it is a need?

I couldn't tell you if Nichushkin will be a better pro then Pullock. However, if the scouting dept. believes Nichushkin can be the better player and they can acquire a higher draft pick while losing some assets, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Hypothetically, let's say it might cost Simmonds or Read plus another player plus #11 would it be worth it if Nichushkin becomes a top 10 player in the league. To me, it is worth, but it is certainly a risk and the scouting department has to be right.
- ravishingone

Don't get me wrong, I'd easily give simmonds or read + a 1st + a prospect to get Nich, he might actually be my favorite prospect in this entire draft, but I just am afraid of the price tag. I don't think Read + our 1st + a prospect will get us the #3. Nich will be an instant reward, too. He said in his interview that he actually EXPECTS to play on the top line of whatever team he is drafted to, I wouldn't be surprised if he barely even knows what the AHL is; it's just not in his realm of thought . He's 1 thing we really need, though. A big, young, goal scoring left winger with buckets of potential. If a good deal could be struck, I wouldn't hesitate. I just don't think there's any way to get it besides for through a major overpayment.

I might actually disown this franchise if they're that stupid.
- JoeRussomanno

I'd have to disown my username

Just curious as to how you know this?
- Just5

That was a big conversation point of the commentators in his rookie year plus, you can additionally tell from his interviews, as well as his maturity in-game. Sometimes when I hear him talk in interviews I think I'm listening to J Toews

I'd have to disown my username
- Giroux_Is_God

Or change your team affiliation

Don't get me wrong, I'd easily give simmonds or read + a 1st + a prospect to get Nich, he might actually be my favorite prospect in this entire draft, but I just am afraid of the price tag. I don't think Read + our 1st + a prospect will get us the #3. Nich will be an instant reward, too. He said in his interview that he actually EXPECTS to play on the top line of whatever team he is drafted to, I wouldn't be surprised if he barely even knows what the AHL is; it's just not in his realm of thought . He's 1 thing we really need, though. A big, young, goal scoring left winger with buckets of potential. If a good deal could be struck, I wouldn't hesitate. I just don't think there's any way to get it besides for through a major overpayment.
- JAKEw1234

We had one of those but we traded him for LSchenn.

Don't get me wrong, I'd easily give simmonds or read + a 1st + a prospect to get Nich, he might actually be my favorite prospect in this entire draft, but I just am afraid of the price tag. I don't think Read + our 1st + a prospect will get us the #3. Nich will be an instant reward, too. He said in his interview that he actually EXPECTS to play on the top line of whatever team he is drafted to, I wouldn't be surprised if he barely even knows what the AHL is; it's just not in his realm of thought . He's 1 thing we really need, though. A big, young, goal scoring left winger with buckets of potential. If a good deal could be struck, I wouldn't hesitate. I just don't think there's any way to get it besides for through a major overpayment.
- JAKEw1234

I absolutely agree with you. With the Flyers organization, they are never afraid to pull the trigger on a major deal, moving major assets. I also believe it is unlikely they move up, but it wouldn't shock me especially because they usually don't suffer from sticker shock, which is both a good and bad thing.

Honestly, I would be more shocked if they traded down to accumulate picks then trade up to get the guy they have identified.

We had one of those but we traded him for LSchenn.
- 77rams

I think B Schenn can still be that for us.

We had one of those but we traded him for LSchenn.
- 77rams

I agree with that trade totally, though. Imagine just how much lower our team would've landed without L Schenn and his 32 minute nights

Lighten up...I'm messing with you
- KINGKENZO

Just the basic facts.....

....can ya tell me where it hurts?
- Giroux_Is_God

PF

PF
- MJL

I agree with that trade totally, though. Imagine just how much lower our team would've landed without L Schenn and his 32 minute nights
- JAKEw1234

Then we could've had both JVR and Nichushkin on our roster next season.

Then we could've had both JVR and Nichushkin on our roster next season.
- 77rams

And don't forget about Pietrangelo

Marty Murray, Traded for Billy Freaking Tibbets We signed him again a few years later but he didnt play for us long before being traded/released (dont recall which)
- GPerogie

Uh, they traded Kent Manderville for Billy Tibbetts, not Murray. He was traded to the 'Canes for a late round pick

I absolutely agree with you. With the Flyers organization, they are never afraid to pull the trigger on a major deal, moving major assets. I also believe it is unlikely they move up, but it wouldn't shock me especially because they usually don't suffer from sticker shock, which is both a good and bad thing.

Honestly, I would be more shocked if they traded down to accumulate picks then trade up to get the guy they have identified.
- ravishingone

Yea I'd be blown away of the flyers trade down. That's just not what they do I dont care what kind of draft it is

I absolutely agree with you. With the Flyers organization, they are never afraid to pull the trigger on a major deal, moving major assets. I also believe it is unlikely they move up, but it wouldn't shock me especially because they usually don't suffer from sticker shock, which is both a good and bad thing.

Honestly, I would be more shocked if they traded down to accumulate picks then trade up to get the guy they have identified.
- ravishingone

The problem isn't a lack of balls, it's a lack of a consistent plan. 4 years ago we were excited of the young nucleus of Ricahrds, Carter, Umberger, Upshall, Lupul, etc.

Now we're excited over the young core of Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier & Schenn(s). Hopefully, they don't trade this one away over press reports and nonsense.