There is no such thing as a total rebuild if Crosby and Malkin are in the equation. Total rebuilds are when teams are looking for their Crosby and Malkin.
- Gunner Staal

Yeah... you are not unloading good, proven NHL players for picks and prospects. If Shero wants to shake up the roster, I'd be fine with that, but he will have to bring NHL talent in for everyone he ships out.

Quote of the game"Malkin need to show a little bit more effort out there" At this point Malkin and Letang can go as far as Im concerned. Pens will be lucky to get 1 game in Boston. Guarantee, status quo from Bylsma once again. No line changes. Bring up Bennett and Despress, sit Nisk and Vitale. How about Jagr running over Orpik?

Yeah... you are not unloading good, proven NHL players for picks and prospects. If Shero wants to shake up the roster, I'd be fine with that, but he will have to bring NHL talent in for everyone he ships out.
- rival22

I'm all for dealing Letang now. To me, its not worth resigning him for 6.5-7 million per year based on his inadequate play in the play-offs. Here is the problem ... he makes 3.5 next year. It's not like you can go out and trade him for a bonafide NHL stud that makes equal money. You have to get a kid still on his entry level contract (proven one) and a pick (first round) or a STUD prospect.

Free agency can't change anything really. There is little out there that would help. This is a terrible year. Any change has to be through trades. Kennedy's rights; Niskanen; Dustin Jeffrey bring mid to late round picks. Letang might be the card you have to play. You have to resign Dupuis and Cooke IMO as well as Hartzell (the goalie of the future). Iggy, Morrow - nice knowing you. Murray - I say 2 million.

I'm all for dealing Letang now. To me, its not worth resigning him for 6.5-7 million per year based on his inadequate play in the play-offs. Here is the problem ... he makes 3.5 next year. It's not like you can go out and trade him for a bonafide NHL stud that makes equal money. You have to get a kid still on his entry level contract (proven one) and a pick (first round) or a STUD prospect.
- Oneonta Penguin

What if the Pens turn things around and win the series?

Roster management is Bylsma's issue, not the x's and o's.

Penguins arent dead if they utilize their depth. Specifically the depth that is able skate fast and provide puck skills.

Bennett and Despres are no brainer additions at this point.

The top 6 personnel is what it is, combine it however you want (87, 14, 9, 71, 12, 18)

I would give Morrow and Jokinen a seat for Game 3. They just don't have the foot speed. Sutter, Cooke, and Kennedy for the third line and Bennett, Adams, and Vitale for the 4th line. Bennett can float around to different lines if needed.

D pairings

44-7
47-58
3-4

Only Murray would have what I would consider poor puck skills in that grouping of d men. The Bruins are beat with speed and skill, not physicality. Bruins own the neutral zone because most teams can't skate with them, the Penguins actually have the personnel to do so, they just aren't icing that lineup.
- Gunner Staal

Agreed. Morrow has given them almost nothing in a series where many including myself thought he would shine. Iginla has also shown little. I'm also not sure what Kennedy did that merited a seat in the press box last night.

What if the Pens turn things around and win the series?
- Pecafan Fan

They won't. Sorry, you can't go down 0-2 at home; head to Boston playing this way - terrible on both ends with little compete level and no hockey sense and all the sudden flip the switch.

They won't. Sorry, you can't go down 0-2 at home; head to Boston playing this way - terrible on both ends with little compete level and no hockey sense and all the sudden flip the switch.
- Oneonta Penguin

The Bruins flipped the switch with 10 minutes left in a game 7, down by 3 goals against Toronto.

They won't. Sorry, you can't go down 0-2 at home; head to Boston playing this way - terrible on both ends with little compete level and no hockey sense and all the sudden flip the switch.
- Oneonta Penguin

Its a long shot because they certainly are losing on merit, but I am not ready to count them out yet. I watched a Pens team in 92 get down 3-1 to the Caps and look utterly lost before they turned it around and won 3 straight.

What if the Pens turn things around and win the series?
- Pecafan Fan

I would still entertain moving Letang at the draft.

The Bruins flipped the switch with 10 minutes left in a game 7, down by 3 goals against Toronto.
- Pecafan Fan

Too many people here ready to abandon ship for my liking. I saw the same stuff after the Wings trounced them in game 5 in '09. There is just no telling what this Pens team might do. Nothing surprises me any more. They are just as likely to come back and win 4 straight as they are to get swept.

There is no such thing as a total rebuild if Crosby and Malkin are in the equation. Total rebuilds are when teams are looking for their Crosby and Malkin.
- Gunner Staal

That's the thing it wouldn't be a total rebuild because you already have your key pieces just rebuild around them. I guess I should have just said rebuild instead of total.

I would still entertain moving Letang at the draft.
- Gunner Staal

For what its worth, I would as well, win or lose. The amount of money he's going to demand/command is too much given his penchant for silly mistakes with the puck.

The Bruins flipped the switch with 10 minutes left in a game 7, down by 3 goals against Toronto.
- Pecafan Fan

It's easy to flip the switch against Toronto. I can't believe you used that one. It's like flipping the switch against the NY Jets.

Its a long shot because they certainly are losing on merit, but I am not ready to count them out yet. I watched a Pens team in 92 get down 3-1 to the Caps and look utterly lost before they turned it around and won 3 straight.
- Emperor Filonius

We had a good coach back in 1992. I fail to see how people use that as ammo.

At this point how much are you willing ot pay Malkin? I thought he was piss poor last night. His skill level can turn a game around, but he does it so rarely. Everyone is riding Letang, but the other star Malkin is equally useless last night.

At this point how much are you willing ot pay Malkin? I thought he was piss poor last night. His skill level can turn a game around, but he does it so rarely. Everyone is riding Letang, but the other star Malkin is equally useless last night.
- sammy87

Crosby was worse, we trading him too?

would a deal around craig anderson and letang be feasible i wonder.

anderson and a 1st

for letang


andy is a great goalie, who thrives when he's busy. he's only 30, so right in his prime. i think he would do well in pitt's system. he's signed to a great deal, and it would allow the pens to either trade or buyout fleury. would leave you guys lots of cap space to play with, and gives a chance to lots of your young D to start playing

At this point how much are you willing ot pay Malkin? I thought he was piss poor last night. His skill level can turn a game around, but he does it so rarely. Everyone is riding Letang, but the other star Malkin is equally useless last night.
- sammy87

You trade Letang over Malkin. It's not even in question. Crosby looked like poop last night too. Do you trade him as well?

We had a good coach back in 1992. I fail to see how people use that as ammo.
- Oneonta Penguin

It's not that we don't have a GOOD coach, we just don't have a GREAT coach. We have a STUBBORN coach. One that would "rather be right" than make a damn adjustment. He would rather go out every night and play his system reguardless of the outcome and that IS NOT how you win a Stanley Cup. The still was built to win the cup, and anything shy of a Stanley Cup loss is a HUGE dissapointment for this franchise. If Byslma loses this series (especially in the fashion that he is losing it) he is out the door.

It's not that we don't have a GOOD coach, we just don't have a GREAT coach. We have a STUBBORN coach. One that would "rather be right" than make a damn adjustment. He would rather go out every night and play his system reguardless of the outcome and that IS NOT how you win a Stanley Cup. The still was built to win the cup, and anything shy of a Stanley Cup loss is a HUGE dissapointment for this franchise. If Byslma loses this series (especially in the fashion that he is losing it) he is out the door.
- Killian

Could you classify DB as a good coach if he is too stubborn to make damn adjustments. Coaches that fail to make the necessary adjustments aren't good coaches. They are soon to be fired coaches. Add in his personnel decisions, he isn't a smart coach either.

I would unload DB if I knew we could pry away Tippett from Phoenix.

Could you classify DB as a good coach if he is too stubborn to make damn adjustments. Coaches that fail to make the necessary adjustments aren't good coaches. They are soon to be fired coaches. Add in his personnel decisions, he isn't a smart coach either.

I would unload DB if I knew we could pry away Tippett from Phoenix.
- Oneonta Penguin

He hasn't lost the series YET.

We had a good coach back in 1992. I fail to see how people use that as ammo.
- Oneonta Penguin

We had arguably the best coach in NHL history in 92, but the players were still ready to revolt halfway through the season. Bylsma is far from perfect, but he's better than most. It's still up to the players on the ice to get it done. Do you think Bylsma coaches his best players to make horrific decisions with the puck?? (87 & 58 were lousy last night, especially on the first 2 goals)

He hasn't lost the series YET.
- Killian

I have no faith in him whatsoever. If he fails to make adjustments, how do you expect him to all the sudden get a clue and make them now? Last night was clear he didn't learn a single thing from game 1. What's to say he will take what he learned from game 2 and transfer something to game 3?

What if the Pens turn things around and win the series?
- Pecafan Fan

Yes... Letang is a very good defenseman who often makes horrible decisions. When he's on, he's one of the top few defencemen in the league. When he's off, he's a turnover machine. If he'd resign here at a slight raise ($5 million), I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Problem is that he knows that he an his agent know that someone will throw him $6.5+ on the open market. For this team, he's not worth that cap hit, when you already have several high cap players here.

We had arguably the best coach in NHL history in 92, but the players were still ready to revolt halfway through the season. Bylsma is far from perfect, but he's better than most. It's still up to the players on the ice to get it done. Do you think Bylsma coaches his best players to make horrific decisions with the puck?? (87 & 58 were lousy last night, especially on the first 2 goals)
- Emperor Filonius

No, its on the players as well.