The series is FAR from over but won't be if Bylsma doesn't learn how to make an adjustment. He's too stubborn in the sense that reguardless of who our opponent is, he's going to come out and play his system. Well guess what Dan? YOUR SYSTEM HASN'T WORKED AGAINST THEM! So now it's time to go back to the drawing board and see what worked against them in the regular season when you went 3-0 against them. Or how about watching some film of the Bruins/Leafs series and figure out what was working for Toronto? Just saying.
- Killian

Adjust. Just adjust. Bylsma hasn't been able to do that this series.

I care about this team when they play like men. Yesterday was a piss poor job by everyone on the ice, starting with our captain. The team went down too easily.

What's the NBA?
- Emperor Filonius

National Boring Association.

Adjust. Just adjust. Bylsma hasn't been able to do that this series.

I care about this team when they play like men. Yesterday was a piss poor job by everyone on the ice, starting with our captain. The team went down too easily.
- Orpik44

On that 5th goal I don't know why Bylsma sent out Malkin against Bergereon for a defensive zone draw. Malkins line has proved to be anything but defensively responsible.

On that 5th goal I don't know why Bylsma sent out Malkin against Bergereon for a defensive zone draw. Malkins line has proved to be anything but defensively responsible.
- drummer829

That's why they need a defensive guy to round that 2nd line. Neal and Malkin have to be better on the defensive end as well. I don't see them "trying" as much as they do when they are attacking (it's expected anyway)

if we lose this series in 4 or 5... gotta think Bylsma might get canned.

IF. he does, how about this solution,

sign Mike Smith and bring in Dave Tippet as coach. Tippet is the reason why Smith is good. if we don't get Tippet, it makes no sense for Smith.

just an idea. also, i'd consider targeting Ryan Miller. A change of scenery to this team would do him some good.

Can billy g make a comeback

Just curious, but how does he get one game to wipe the slate clean when he muddied his own slate with his performance the 3 prior years including this one?
- Rawdog9755

I should've clarified, I meant if he does play and he stinks I believe he will not play another game for the pens. If he plays well and turns the series around well... Who knows where things go. this game is on the team not the goalies... I think Fleury can hold up better against the bruins then Vokoun if he gets past this funk, I don't think Vokouns game is good against the b's crash the net style

Ya never know it may ignite a fire under the pens to play harder for Fleury...

Was listening to Madden today... Boy did he rip disco a new one.

His points...

1)No plan B. Makes no adjustments. He's got one game plan and if that doesn't work, he'll go down in flames with it.

2)Poor in the personnel department. Jerked Despres around this year. Should have had Bennett playing the entire playoffs. Most of his fire was reserved for his inexplicably having his HOF'r right wing playing left wing when the entire free world can see how uncomfortable he is there. Also Iggy should obviously be on the first PP unit.

Hmmm..... wonder if he's been reading this board?

if we lose this series in 4 or 5... gotta think Bylsma might get canned.

IF. he does, how about this solution,

sign Mike Smith and bring in Dave Tippet as coach. Tippet is the reason why Smith is good. if we don't get Tippet, it makes no sense for Smith.

just an idea. also, i'd consider targeting Ryan Miller. A change of scenery to this team would do him some good.
- SuperHenderson13

I like Tippet, but if Disco gets canned and they bring in a coach that stresses a more disciplined system, we won't need a new tender. Not saying that MAF is blameless, but his confidence is clearly shaken playing for a team where defense is considered inconvenient.

Got to go with Vokoun next game.

I like Tippet, but if Disco gets canned and they bring in a coach that stresses a more disciplined system, we won't need a new tender. Not saying that MAF is blameless, but his confidence is clearly shaken playing for a team where defense is considered inconvenient.

Got to go with Vokoun next game.
- madmike71

I think if Bylsma gets canned, you can keep this team almost the same other besides the casualites of the salary cap going down. I would look to keep iginla and dupuis. let morrow and cooke walk. trade kennedy. have a jokinen-sutter-bennett 3rd line. love the quickness on the line and the skill on the wing. have a 4th line with vitale and adams. got to find a character big body to fill the LW. that is something this team is missing. big body with character. a Brandon prust type player.

gotta wonder where Shero would look. does he look at a HC with coaching experience in the NHL or does he look in the AHL or even Juniors or in Russia for an "off the grid" guy.

now ideally, we come back, win the cup and everyone's happy... but I don't see it happening with the way we're playing. still plenty of hockey left. this team needed to get kicked in the balls... time to see how they respond.

Was listening to Madden today... Boy did he rip disco a new one.

His points...

1)No plan B. Makes no adjustments. He's got one game plan and if that doesn't work, he'll go down in flames with it.

2)Poor in the personnel department. Jerked Despres around this year. Should have had Bennett playing the entire playoffs. Most of his fire was reserved for his inexplicable having his HOF'r right wing playing left wing when the entire free world can see how uncomfortable he is there. Also Iggy should obviously be on the first PP unit.

Hmmm..... wonder if he's been reading this board?
- madmike71

haha. I'd say it's possible that he has been reading this board!

If Flower starts game #3 the Penguins are done. He was horrible again last night and that 4th goal just sucked the life out of any possible comeback.

I'd expect some type of pushback by the team tomorrow, however HCDB doesn't do adjustments and again is being horribly outcoached in the playoffs.

The team was absolutely brutal last night and you can say its the players but the team is a direct reflection on the coach.

There's my 2 cents, because I still vomit a little bit about losing 3-0 and 6-1 at home in the ECF's.

Flower.. quid pro quo
- MrBigglesworth

Can we just say "Any goalie since Ron Hextall" and win the argument of who has had worse goaltending.

I'm alright with Fleury starting. That said I'm alright with the team getting blown out last night. Things like that can wake teams up.

if we lose this series in 4 or 5... gotta think Bylsma might get canned.

IF. he does, how about this solution,

sign Mike Smith and bring in Dave Tippet as coach. Tippet is the reason why Smith is good. if we don't get Tippet, it makes no sense for Smith.

just an idea. also, i'd consider targeting Ryan Miller. A change of scenery to this team would do him some good.
- SuperHenderson13

Sean Burke made Smith, not Tippett. Sure, his system helps Smith. Then again, his system helped Bryz before bolting for Philly for big money and failure.

If Bylsma is canned, which he would deserve if we go down in flames this series, I think Vigneault might get a call too.

I'm alright with Fleury starting. That said I'm alright with the team getting blown out last night. Things like that can wake teams up.
- Ben37

If it takes a 6-1 ass kicking at home to go down 2-0 in the Eastern Finals to wake up, there is a major problem.

I'm alright with Fleury starting. That said I'm alright with the team getting blown out last night. Things like that can wake teams up.
- Ben37

I have no interest in seeing Fleury in net for game three.

Was listening to Madden today... Boy did he rip disco a new one.

His points...

1)No plan B. Makes no adjustments. He's got one game plan and if that doesn't work, he'll go down in flames with it.

2)Poor in the personnel department. Jerked Despres around this year. Should have had Bennett playing the entire playoffs. Most of his fire was reserved for his inexplicably having his HOF'r right wing playing left wing when the entire free world can see how uncomfortable he is there. Also Iggy should obviously be on the first PP unit.

Hmmm..... wonder if he's been reading this board?
- madmike71

Sounds like the comments of hundreds people here.

Flower.. quid pro quo
- MrBigglesworth

Leighton ... Bobrovsky in Philly; Boucher ... all the other failures in net since Hextall. Nice job numbnuts. I'm not sure you want to get into a battle with inept goalies. You would lose.

http://triblive.com/sport...+Stories%29#axzz2VI5VfzLX

great read for those who might have missed it.

If it takes a 6-1 ass kicking at home to go down 2-0 in the Eastern Finals to wake up, there is a major problem.
- Oneonta Penguin

Well they were obviously not ready last night. A blow out like that should remind them of where they are and what is at stake. I agree it is a major problem, but it is one that should be easily rectified.

I think if MAF could have shut them out while he was in there and get some confidence then Bylsma might stick with him. However, he still doesn't look good at all. It wouldn't surprise me to see him start to shake the team up but I would still stick with Vokoun.

They have played well in Boston which is encouraging. They went into Boston at the end of the year with a depleted team and came out on top. Got to get that same mindset and play the way we know they are capable of. Everything rests on tomorrow night's game. They win and it's still a series.

http://triblive.com/sports/dejankovacevic/dejancolumns/4131155-74/zero-game-players?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tribunereviewpenguins+%28Penguins+Stories%29#axzz2VI5VfzLX

great read for those who might have missed it.
- kill.monsters

Obviously some valid points in that piece about the lack of production from the stars, but I completely disagree with his assertion that Julien didn't make any adjustments. The B's played the first half of that game trading chances with the Pens. The second half, with the lead, the B's clamped down in the neutral zone and really limited any good chances for the Pens.

Clogging the neutral zone has been the Pens/Disco's kryptonite for a few years now. Bylsma has no answers for it and never seems to have a plan for it. We almost lost to the Isle because of it and its the obvious reason Jersey gives us so much trouble.

You would think a coach at the highest level would be adept enough to come up with a counter tactic. His lack of adjustment to it leaves me to believe he's dumb or supremely stubborn. I certainly don't think he's dumb, but some of his personnel decisions pretty much makes the case for being very stubborn.

Obviously some valid points in that piece about the lack of production from the stars, but I completely disagree with his assertion that Julien didn't make any adjustments. The B's played the first half of that game trading chances with the Pens. The second half, with the lead, the B's clamped down in the neutral zone and really limited any good chances for the Pens.

Clogging the neutral zone has been the Pens/Disco's kryptonite for a few years now. Bylsma has no answers for it and never seems to have a plan for it. We almost lost to the Isle because of it and its the obvious reason Jersey gives us so much trouble.

You would think a coach at the highest level would be adept enough to come up with a counter tactic. His lack of adjustment to it leaves me to believe he's dumb or supremely stubborn. I certainly don't think he's dumb, but some of his personnel decisions pretty much makes the case for being very stubborn.
- madmike71

Julien made no adjustments whatsoever. He didn't have to.

Julien made no adjustments whatsoever. He didn't have to.
- Oneonta Penguin

Adjustments: something we are unable to make.

By the way this team played last night, I don't have high expectations for now..